Random questions.

[death-mountain.livejournal.com]

So, the other day I came up some questions off the top of my head.
-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?
-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?
If even a few people would care to satisfy my curiosity, I'd appreciate it. ^_^

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[overlord-mordax.livejournal.com]

Here are our answers

-usually one by one, sometimes more than one of us will wake up at the same time.
-Bunny speaks only broken english, and is usually mute.
-New people showed up frequently for a while several years ago, but the system seems to have leveled off in the last three years.
-when the body is sick we all get sick, however when one member is sick it only affects the body when that person is in front.

[linnai.livejournal.com]

1. Just depends. People wake up and sleep at different times, but we try to sleep on a schedule so the body gets enough sleep.

2. Some of us know other languages, based on what we've studied or our histories, depending.

3. We don't really know how large our group is so people show up depending on the outside situations, we think.

4. If one member is sick, then they are sick by themselves. If the BODY gets sick, then people respond or are effected by the system in different ways.

But you know, it does differ from group to group, some groups have a fixed number of individuals. Some groups share or have information differently and stuff.

[katullus.livejournal.com]

Question One: Different members of my system "wake up" at different times, but in terms of physically being asleep or awake (as in when we're snoring or when we're not), whoever is fronting at that particular moment gets woken up when the body wakes up. That person is usually me. I've actually woken up a few times after already arriving at school or getting dressed or whatever, which is always a little disconcerting. This one time, I found myself at school all in black formalwear with my hair all slicked back, and I was like, "whoa, I think I know who dressed us this morning..."

Question Two: We all speak English. Although I've actually had a couple dreams that seemed to be in another language, but I can never figure out what any of the words mean.

Question Three: I don't know very much about other systems, but for me personally, the first one made itself known about six years ago and then the rest of them just came out in this sort of flood within the last year. I don't think it applies to us, though- I've got a pretty good sense that there always have been and always will be seven people in here.

Question Four: Physical ailments have only to do with the body- in the strictest of terms, none of us, as souls rather than physical beings, ever get sick. If you're speaking in terms of the emotional and mental effect on a mind of being sick, well, it really just depends on how prone the given person is to becoming crabby due to a little ache and pain discomfort in the body. ;)

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

If you're speaking in terms of the emotional and mental effect on a mind of being sick, well, it really just depends on how prone the given person is to becoming crabby due to a little ache and pain discomfort in the body. ;)

We know that feeling! So many times a minor illness will cause a major fit with our main fronter. ("AAAAGH! This is ruining my productivity! Damn you, puny scrawny body!")

[sightless-light.livejournal.com]

1. Normally one at a time, except for Shardae, who wakes up with me.
2. The Twins, but then... they're twins. And Maari doesn't speak in words, but in images.
3. Not all that often now, since The Sleepers are being watched and shielded at all times.
4. When the body is sick, I'm the only one it affects. If I go In when I'm sick, then the others might catch it.

-Heather of the Sightless Light system

[crystalseraph.livejournal.com]

1) Well, everyone here seems to wake up at different times. Shad gets up at about 5:30am for work, but that doesn't wake the rest of us up. Rachael operates on a different timezone: we can feel when is sleeping and awake, 11am in the body time seems to be her usual bedtime. Tahl often wakes earlier than me: I often know when he does, but don't wake up from it unless he pokes me XD. Me and him tend to be blurry and blargh when I get up, until we've had breakfast.

2) Tahl used to speak another language, but he lost it. Rachael speaks her own language, but we have a sort of 'filter' that translates as she speaks. Otherwise, English. I speak some Chinese though.

3) Not very often. There have been 5 stable members since I was very young, and Matti arrived recently. We will possibly generate some soulbonds.

4) Sickness makes it harder to feel and sense each other, but otherwise, it only effects the body and the person using it at the time.

[andies-space.livejournal.com]

When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
Sometimes we all wake up, sometimes it's one-by-one. It depends on the day.

Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
Our host speaks 7 languages. Some of us speak more than one, some only speak English.

How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?
As far as we know, all members are known now, but we're a trauma-based system. We're hoping no one new would show up for this reason. :o$ We made ourselvevs known as we felt the host could handle it.

When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?
We all get sick, but some of us can handle sickness, and pain, better than others.

[aquilawolf.livejournal.com]

1. Sometimes one of us is stuck up front for awhile in which case she more or less wakes up alone. When that isn't the case generally there are children which wake up with an adult. All adults aren't around on a daily basis so they just come forward whenever they do.

2. There are those that are mute. There was a very young child speaking with a german accent for awhile and young children that are not always understandable sometimes have used phrases that sound French. There may be adults that come up now and again speaking some language I don't know or understand and since I don't understand it I'm not sure it is a language but it sounds structured. Also some communicate with images.

3.Some members that were here 3 years ago are no longer here or they don't make themselves known. Right now there are only a few adults around with a few teenagers and kids and infants. It all varies.

4.Body sickness can cause one tough adult to stay forward. There are adults that are obsessive worriers and/or depressed but when others come forward this is gone. It feels like someone can hang around underneath when the body is sick while someone else is up and feels the sickness.

[leejoon.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one? Two by two - Whoever was last awake usually gets up first with her and the other gets up with the little one.
-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all? Two are Spanish speakers, we all (except the little one) are learning Gaelic.
-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known? No such issue anymore.
-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too? Only one of us gets sick. If the body gets sick, she gets doubly sick.

Off topic, but...

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

We're language geeks, and we've had an interest in Gaelic for a while. Unfortunately, our school offers Yoruba and Klingon but not Gaelic. Go figure. What've y'all's experiences with Gaelic been? What, in your opinion, is the toughest part of it?

Sorry to bug you, but with linguists... yeah, our ears pop up at this.

Re: Off topic, but...

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

Oh, Christ, we haven't had enough time to study everything we want to yet. Phonetics/phonology ended up being a joy to us (a surprise; we expected it to be a slog), but we're also interested in sociolinguistics and how the exact meanings of words shift from one language to another. (We're really, REALLY hoping that syntax will end up being more interesting than it seems.)

We mentioned Gaelic (one day, we will learn to call it Irish) because we'd like to learn it, so we were curious mainly about it's syntactical structure.

You lingua-geekas too?

Re: Off topic, but...

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

We're writing our thesis on the semantics of Russian verbs of motion,

*envy* That sounds fantastic. And Discourse Pragmatics... *envyenvyenvy* We're still working our way through the undergrad courses right now, so we're still learning.

As for semantics, oops. It's right next to the chapters on sociolinguistics in our book and we got them mixed up somehow.

Re: Off topic, but...

[leejoon.livejournal.com]

I find the conjugation the most difficult - it seems to me everything is irregular... *sigh*

She seems to have most difficulty with pronunciations... LOL

Re: Off topic, but...

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

Oh, those irregular verbs. They ARE a pain--luckily Japanese is fairly low on them, outside of honorifics and humble styles, at least.

Is the pronunciation that much different?

[liedownlovely.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
It depends. The Main Frontrunner wakes up first. Some of us are awake already, some of us sleep in long after she's up and about.

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
Two can speak a little German. That's it.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?
We had a ratio of two a year. Now that we're up to 7, we don't foresee the group growing any larger. They generally make their presences known through mental prodding and strong emotion.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?
Only three of us use the body; when the body is sick they will be too. The other four are unaffected.

-Muses Anonymous

[freakshownia.livejournal.com]

- We usually wake up at different times, though it's normal for a few of us to wake up at the same time.
- Yep, there's a little girl here who only speaks Japanese. I've been able to teach her a little English though, but she frequently forgets that people can't understand her and uses Japanese with our friends.
- Not often. The last time a new person popped up was around three years ago.
- Usually only the person fronting feels sick.

[lurid-sea.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
Whoever is using the body usually wakes up first, and right now that's our main fronter. Sometimes others have been awake for a while and we usually realize that by what the main fronter perceives as dreams. Since it's kind of disturbing for us to be awake in a body that's asleep, the rest of us often wait to wake up until he does. However, some of us sleep in later than him. (Long answer there!)

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
No. Some of us know a little of other languages. Some of us don't. It's only what we've learnt from classes or self-teaching.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?
It depends. Sometimes we have a lot of new members show up at once. Our system has been growing lately, although it seems to have stopped for a while. Thank goodness!

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?
The body and whoever is using it get sick. Inside, we don't generally get sick, although I think it might have happened once.

=Key

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

On waking up: Doesn't seem concrete, but we do have a harder time switching in and out in the morning and late at night, as though some of us were still asleep. But then, that just might be because we're tired and not concentrating as well.

On bilingual: We've been studying Japanese for five years, and I've got a feeling one of us has a thicker American accent in than the rest of us, but no real discrepancies in knowledge.

On showing up: In the roughly five and a half years we've been like this, we've had the same exact ranks for about two years. Before that, we had pretty much the same ranks, except two of us were integrated, so the only "major" change was one of us suddenly digging herself out of the ground. And then she was just there and gave us all a scare.

On sickness: Generally, the illness affects whoever is fronting--and that's usually me. I have noticed that an illness will sometimes set me back more than the others, fronting or not, and one of us can ignore sickness better than the rest of us. I consider that more mind over matter, rather than any special changes she puts on the body.

--Writer

[ricktboy.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?

It's an individual thing. Our time in the honeycomb moves differently, we have 36 hour days, and all of us have individual sleeping patterns, so whoever wakes up the body in the morning, wakes it up.

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?

Tara and Kali speak Elven, Kali speaks two dialects in fact, and Tara also speaks English. Griaan speak(well understand, as their mute) English and a bit of Choctaw Nation's language. Faith speaks feline, which is really a language, and Rick and cubbie are fair hands at canine.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?

Not very often, we've been steady at our number for quite awhile. We have visitors quite often, though.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?

The body gets an illness, we all feel it when we front. inside, not so much. If an individual member gets sick, they feel it alone, unless they give it to someone else(like colds and junk).

Faith
Pack Collective

[death-mountain.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the answers, guys. Very interesting indeed.
On a side note, I'm studying Japanese as well. It's a fun language.

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

Yes, Japanese is wonderful, once you get used to the all the different ways to use varying politness, and those "Phonetic? We don't need no stinkin' phonetic!" kanji. They have their own weird sense about them, but it just takes a while to get used to it.

[pthalo]

whoever is sleeping in the body wakes up then. Others wake up before or after that.
almost all of us are bilingual, but with different languages. There are some who speak no English, and there are some who speak no Hungarian. The lack of Hungarian is the bigger problem, living in Hungary (though born in an English speaking country)
when you're in the body, no matter who is fronting, if the body is physically sick, that's something you have to deal with while up front. If you're sick inside, and you come out front, the body will also feel a bit run down and want extra rest.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Whoever took the body to bed may or may not be who wakes up out front. It might be one person or several.

At home we speak Lauta; we regard it as our native language and English as our second language, except for our human walk-ins. Our thoughts are encoded in Lauta and there's a translation effect any time we have to speak English at front. Jay has always insisted that everyone should learn to speak it well but when people use their own translators rather than Standard, anything goes. Jade and Andy can read French, Andy knows some church Latin, Irish and a bit of Portuguese. Jay understands Italian fluently enough to translate it off the radio. Gabe has a few words each in about thirty languages, including several conlangs. We also know some Spanish because of where we live.

If you define new system members as new frontrunners (since we are a gateway system), it could be any time.

With us, the body gets sick and whoever frontruns must deal with it. Some are more used to handling certain kinds of illnesses than others.

[nancy-nensi.livejournal.com]

We're both bilingual, English and Italian. However, Italian feels more natural for Nensi, and English more natural for Nancy. Once, when she was very upset, Nensi found she couldn't speak English at all for a time.

[mysticeden.livejournal.com]

When one person is sick only they are even if they are out in the body. when the body is sick everyone is sick when they are out in the body.


Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?

Yes. I speak english and spanish and other random languages, only me and a few others know other languages. Eveyone else knows only english and only get by , pulling info from us.

[cactus-guys.livejournal.com]

When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
Normally one by one. The jerk of the body waking up often wakes a few people, though.

Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
Most of us are trilingual to some extent, because the body does English, French and German compulsorily in school. Karina doesn't speak much English though.

Liam

[cirape.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?

It used to be that just Dizzy (being the one most connected to the body) woke up first (whenever the body wakes up), usually accompanied by Micha. The rest of us would wake up later on.
Now, however, I wake up first (usually with Dizzy) and then the others--those that are still conscious regularly--wake up later on. Or don't. Whatever works for them/us.

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?

Nope. We're all limited to the languages that have been learned by the body and its history. Reno apparently spoke Japanese (or something similar to it) before he properly entered the system, but once he did it shifted over to English.
Mm. Dizzy and some of the others can be considered knowing a sort of non-language, which Dizzy refers to as transmitting pure thoughts, but its not functional outside of the system.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?

It depends on a lot of things, but now the system is locked down to prevent new members popping up.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?

Anyone who comes in close contact with the front has to deal with the body's sickness. Sometimes it will linger after one leaves front, but it fades.
Members rarely get sick 'inside' (mental and emotional issues don't count here), so that's a non-issue.

...Apologies for any confusion in my phrasing. Haven't slept in awhile.

[asterism.livejournal.com]

- Some of us maintain a schedule that follows that of the body. One member in particular has adopted a more noctural schedule and tends to be awake when most others (including the body) are sleeping. Fortunately she's pretty courteous about that, though she does seem confused as to why we waste the night by sleeping through it.

- A few have other languages. One speaks Mandarin as well as English, but in headspace it tends to mentally translate anyway (and she has the ability to back up that mental translation). The main frontrunner does not speak Mandarin, and the body does not have the memory or practice in forming Mandarin sounds, so when she fronts, she can't speak it, and she has severe difficulty in typing it, as well. Another member has a language that is visually based (her species is bioluminescent) and creates meaning based on speed, intensity, rate, color, and position of photophores, combined with body language and possibly a small telepathic component as well. She has a very difficult time with English and needs help in typed communication.

- Interesting question. We're relatively recently realized, so the rate of introduction is probably higher than for an established system. We're rather small, however.

- Sickness tends to affect anyone close to the front. The frontrunner feels it the most and anyone who spends much time close to the front will feel some of the effects, too. Those with limited connection to the body and to the front don't seem to be bothered by it. Some who do come closer to front will avoid it during sickness.

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

Another member has a language that is visually based (her species is bioluminescent) and creates meaning based on speed, intensity, rate, color, and position of photophores, combined with body language and possibly a small telepathic component as well.

This post is just bringing out all sorts of language-geek joy in us. Don't suppose you could elucidate a little more on her visual language, do you? That stuff is just all kinds of nifty to us.

Using her icon, but it's someone else typing.

[asterism.livejournal.com]

It's a bit difficult to explain in words, in text, because it is such a visual component. Even the researchers who created her species had no idea that their creations would be sentient, let alone have a language.

It takes the basis of mammalian body language (ear position, teeth, posture, movements) and accents them with the lights, creating subtle differences in meaning and tone depending on, say, if the lights are blinking fast or slow, how bright they are, which lights are being used. It's incredibly complex, and for those of us who don't speak crazy lightflashy language (which is essentially all of us...the deeper meanings are known only to her kind, since they require that specific mindset of being luminé to understand), she appears to have limited telepathy that can enforce the meaning on receptive minds. It's like the difference between cave paintings and Renaissance art in the ability to convey meaning and detail.

This is all inside, of course. Outside, very little to none of it translates. She will attempt to adapt her body language into the body, but can't exactly lay back her ears or flex her tail. :P But she does react in interesting ways to light shows. Christmas was a fun time. And at a dance? Hoo-boy. It's like a stimulus overload, like a drug high. We're a bit afraid of what an all-out rave might do to her.

Re: Using her icon, but it's someone else typing.

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

That sounds amazing to watch, and beautiful is a really different way. Though I admit that when you said she had difficulty adapting Outside, one of us immediately cried, "Glow sticks! Give her glow sticks!" Even though this likely wouldn't work, because you can't turn them on and off.

Re: Using her icon, but it's someone else typing.

[asterism.livejournal.com]

She. Loves. Glowsticks. You have no idea.

And yes, it isn't quite the same, but she loves them anyway.

Re: Using her icon, but it's someone else typing.

[lb-lee.livejournal.com]

*has a delightful mental image of mass glowstick waving* Maybe you can work out a Glow Stick Morse Code, or wrap her in Christmas lights one day, if you think she might enjoy it.

[woodoo-kitty.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?

Well, I'm not entirely sure how it works ^^. Sometimes it's as though i never slept, sometimes it is like we all slept and sometimes it is like some slept while others didn't. It's hard to know who slept and who didn't :/

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?

There are a few who are bi-lingual, but everyone speaks english or can at least communicate whether it be some universal head language or english i'm not sure. when some people write it's not english and they never write in english. so it's hard to know really about them, I think we all communicate because if one of us knows a language then all of us must know it i think.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?

Not too often, but we are 12 now and we were only 5 when i allowed myself to admit we were multiple.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?

Yes, when the body is sick so is everyone who touched it because disease is infectious. If one member is sick then if they front everyone else catches it. :/

[threedog.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?

It's usually me if it's after nine. Black Dog tends to pick up earlier than I do.

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?

BlackDog speaks and reads Latin, Hebrew, Greek, and some pretttty old Assyrian languages, which is a skill he tends to lose when he's up front. As to the bonds-- who don't front-- got a native Russian speaker, a boy who speaks Afrikaans, a gaggle of people who speak a dialect similar to Sanskrit, one guy whose native language is a Pidgin sort of thing, one whose native is Huttese, and a few others who can speak a wide variety. All of the above speak perfectly good English, as well, but if they want to convey something in their other chosen language we tend to have to do a little research, heh.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?

Depends. We get a lot of random visitors. :)

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?

If BlackDog is sick and he's near front/fronting, I tend to pick it up really badly, and vice versa. "The body" is actually my body. He's got his own, elsewhere. (As he put it, fronting is like "borrowing somebody else's car for a while.")

[arcis.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
one by one, but we wake up each other, like "ey, it's morning, we have to work." kind of thing ^^; since normal system fuctions need atleast 2-4 members.
but when the one waking up first doesn't do that, well, the rest wake up on their own times.

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
we're/ the body isn't english native speaker, and .. well, I tend to be better in languages than the rest, as far as we know. I understand a bit french and chinese, but the rest don't.. I think, not that they ever tried/ have interest to check.
some other has their own language, since it's.. gibberish to us, we use telepathy >) *cops out*

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?
we don't keep count, really ^^; it's pretty often, but usually they don't stick around/ show up much.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?
not sure, it's actually more like, if someone inside gets sick, the body gets sick too, with nearness to front and 'influence' considered. I remember when this.. frail, sickly member gets front, the body promptly fainting/ feverish and such when minutes/seconds before it's perfectly fine.

- Oz

[flamingmuffins.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?
It's usually at different times, especially since a couple are even noctournal. Although, sometimes when I wake up, everybody that was asleep at the time will spontaniously wake up at once. o.O ~Shrugs~

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?
Yup. :3 Lir, Norro, and Ti speak Japanese and english, and Marrus knows a tad bit of the random German I blurt all the time. XD And all of my bonds know Divintongue, of course.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?
Almost all of the time. Well, when we had the castle, bonds would come and go constantly..now it's just the fam. As far as how "often", there isn't really a way to tell. It just happens and it doesn't. They usually don't stay, though, unless they have important reason to.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?
When one member is sick, no, only they are sick unless one of the others catch the cold or whatever. If the body is sick, usually only the body is sick, but occasionally one of the others will get sick; again, it depends on their immune system. Very rarely does everybody get sick at once, but it has happened before.

Heh, these are fun to answer. XD Take care and have fun with your japanese. I tried that language once, but it didn't work that well...so I'll stick with english and German. =]


-Iris

[cactus-guys.livejournal.com]

The body tried Japanese once, but it didn't work. All we can remember now is the numbers 1 - 4 :P Suppose we weren't paying attention...

Andy ♥

[flamingmuffins.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I know hello, thank you, hello as in when you're talking on the phone, and goodbye. That's all I remember.

[weirdiguess.livejournal.com]

- The two front girls wake up with the body. I typically wake up on my own schedule.
- We have someone who doesn't speak much English. She can't get the words of her own language across to us either so, it's pretty much just our experience of how she thinks.
- Roughly one a year.
- Body gets sick, whoever's front has to deal with it. Inside is all fine, can get a bit muggy if it's something affecting our head though.

[liliana-warsaw.livejournal.com]

-When you wake up in the morning, how does that work? Do you all wake at once, or one by one?

One by one. I usually wake up first. The other frontrunner wakes up pretty predictably at 7 am. Though generally the body only wakes up when I do. If I sleep in, then everyone else just piddles around inside until the body wakes.

-Are any of your system members bilingual, or speak a language other than English and no English at all?

Yep. Two of them speak more than one language.

-How often do new members show up, or make themselves known?

Not that often these days.

-When one member is sick, or the body is sick, does everyone else get sick too?

The two front runners get sick when the body gets sick. No one else is that attached to it and don't get effected by it.

[merlyn-drakonis.livejournal.com]

1-Sabrina's up with the sun, And she brings the Body along for the ride.

2-Not that we know of.

3-We Sometimes get visters, but the don'tstay long

4-You may find this strange, but our Healers will not allow the body to get sick.

Clan Mornigstarr

[foreverwish.livejournal.com]

I'll have a go at answering your questions.

1. When we wake, it's usually a few of us waking up at the time. Usually it's my parents or another very active fronter in our group.

2. All of us speak another language besides English. There are some languages that we can use inside and out (French, Spanish and a passable level of German), some that we have snippets of outside (Latin) and some that we only know inside.

3. People don't make themselves known that often.

4. If the body is ill, then we all feel it, but if we're ill inside, it's individualised.

Hope that helps. :)

Darwin, Fen Group