[identity profile] jak-ay.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Hi, it's Jakie! I FINALLY broke away from Amy and made my own journal.  i hated being associated with her all the time.  so i just decided to go on my own.  i even have my own user pics, none of that starving, anorexic stuff....i want to be thin and pretty too...but i'll just use the diet pills and cocaine to do it....(i don't use cocaine now, i have no way to get it, i'm only 18 for god sakes, but if i ever...i mean, it's an option) 

So, I went on here in the first place because AMy keeps telling me we're a system...and that we have to start acting like one.  Our therapist says we need to (what did he call it?) "intergrate?"  I told her there was no way in hell i was going to do that....that she was boring and that i was not going to become anything like her.  I'm not 100% sure i know what intergration-whatever really means, but i don't want to do it.  I'm my own person, i'm wild and free....hell, I'M NOT AMY!! And that's the best part of it all!!!

For instance,

I went to this party the other night and got drunk off my ass....granted Amy woke up next to a guy she didn't know (gotta  tell you, i didn't really know him either) in a hotel room, in a state away from where we live....i had fun drinking tho....who cares that i'm underage.  she was pissed...see how much fun she DOESN'T want me to have! She says i'll get sick and shit....so what, from what my DR. tells me, i won't be the one who gets sick--so why not?  Do any of your doctors tell you that? That the body name is the person who gets in all the trouble??  Amy says i'm going to give her aids or get her pregnant some day- i doubt it!  So why can't I be the one to have all the fun?

The rest of them all seem to be calm like her....they've all got their own issues i guess....i'm the fun one and the one who gets everyone else in trouble...which is proabably why everyone says they hate me.....there's one thing they can say about me tho---if they want to be wild and spontaneous...come to JAK_AY!!!

Good to break free from her and be on my own....good to see you guys again!

JAKIE

Date: 2007-08-10 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weirdiguess.livejournal.com
Dunno if you're expecting people to be impressed or what. I don't even know if I believe you. Say for a minute you actually did all this and the playing it up is some attention thing, you're going to get your body sick. Isn't about who it belongs to, if you use it and you break it, it's always gonna be broken, whether it's you using it or not. You break this toy and you ain't gonna get a new one, so you should probably take better care of it.

One thing most people in this community take pretty seriously is responsibility. I don't think you're gonna get a real warm reception to this kinda thing. Hope you grow out of it before you get somebody hurt.

Date: 2007-08-10 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev-fan1217.livejournal.com
THANK YOU!!! You just put that into more elloquent words than I could've put it. I like my fun too. But I think about the fact that we all have to share. Even if it cramps my style *which it usually doesn't* I still consider it. Beside drinking and s3x are over-rated.
AMT

Date: 2007-08-10 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crystalseraph.livejournal.com
Yeah...I kind of second that. You only have the one body. Fun is great, but eh...

Date: 2007-08-10 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev-fan1217.livejournal.com
Integration = the squashing of everybody into the one real person *tm* and usually falls apart in the end. ::Sighs:: I wish more doctors would stop thinking it's the one way out. Heck, most of the time having house rules *like maybe you can get drunk but don't go screwing around* that sort of thing would work better. I know how frustrating it can be to be associated with body name. We don't have a "host" but there's somebody here who goes by the body's name even though she's not the person born here *we have all always been here together* and it's really a piss to be called by her name.

Date: 2007-08-10 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
but like if the doctor sees how they are harmful to each other or the body then I can understand why the doc would suggest integrating. even if it like doesn't always work or whatever you know? I know I'd be worried. :/ it just plain scares me and like what if our group treated each other this way?
LeAnne

Date: 2007-08-10 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phen0type.livejournal.com
As [livejournal.com profile] weirdiguess^Michael and [livejournal.com profile] crystalseraph^Seraph have already said, responsibility is considered very important in this community. I think that it would be prudent for you to discuss with your group-mates what you plan on doing with your body, and how you should take care of it. If you find that any of your behaviour is causing you serious problems (which others may very well do), you should discuss it with a professional. I recall that Amy mentioned that you had a therapist, and I think that it would be wise for you to speak to him or her about it.

Please take care of yourselves.

Richard
Fen Group

Date: 2007-08-10 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hold-me-coldly.livejournal.com
We're trauma-based and decided, with our therapist, not to integrate. If we did, it wouldn't be in our best interest, let alone in my best interest and I'm the host/core. We're working on functioning well as a team. But in order to do that, we have to be responsible with the body and not intentionally get it into danger because it sounds like fun. We have to keep the well-being of everyone else in this system at the forefront of each of our minds. If one of us did something to seriously injure or kill this body, we're all gone, not just the one who acted irresponsibly. This kind of behavior doesn't impress or amuse anyone. It doesn't get you any positive attention. It will only make the doctor/therapist want to put all of you in more intense therapy, push harder for integration, and possibly put you in-patient some place. If you want to have any chance at remaining a system so you can be a part of it without integration, you need to think of everyone else as well. Not just want you want. Have some drinks, sure. But do it in a safe place, a safe way, and don't only think of yourself. That's asking for trouble.

Date: 2007-08-10 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phen0type.livejournal.com
Thank you for that comment - it's wonderful to see members of this community support individual and group responsibility, instead of encouraging others to harm themselves.

Richard
Fen Group

Date: 2007-08-10 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inner-chatter.livejournal.com
I'm a member of this system and though I have not been speaking with my headmates for long I can say that I truly believe everything she (hold_me_coldly) has said about us to be true for any multiple system be that system trauma-based, natural, whatever. What you're doing will end up killing your body and when the body dies, all of you die as well. We are recovering from addiction. Cocaine was one of our drugs of choice. We've been without for 4 years. It nearly killed our body. We used it (and other drugs) to numb the pain from the trauma we have lived through. Once a person/people is/are done numbing, know what? That pain all comes down on them. But eventually you have to be done numbing or you die. You may as well be done sooner than later. I'm not saying don't have a drink or two now and then if you can do so responsibly. But sabotaging Amy like you did, with her waking up next to a stranger in a strange place, is horrific. Your body may be pregnant. Your body may have AIDS, herpes, or some other STD. That is NOT responsible, amusing, or any other thing to laugh at. That is deplorable. I don't know my headmates well enough yet to have a firm bond with them, but I sure as hell wouldn't do that to them. And I don't always like myself either, but I wouldn't disrespect MYSELF enough to do that either. If you can't reason yourself around that, you need to take this to your therapist.

Date: 2007-08-10 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev-fan1217.livejournal.com
Hi Stacey,
Very well put! Very, very well put. And I'm glad to meet you.
Alissa

Date: 2007-08-11 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inner-chatter.livejournal.com
Hi Alissa. It's nice to meet you too. :o)
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Date: 2007-08-10 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
you can delete your own comments for edits and stuff. I do it alot myself if I made a bad typo. ♥ I think it's just mainly for posts but like you can get around deleting a post you made by just editing it.
LeAnne

Date: 2007-08-10 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
It's okay! You can delete your own comments to re-post them with edits. But if people have commented on something you delete, explain in the re-post.

Date: 2007-08-11 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
It's a kludge, but that's LJ.. you gets what you pays for. Sort of. :p

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From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com - Date: 2007-08-11 10:11 pm (UTC) - Expand

Date: 2007-08-10 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
uh what the holy crap? I'm like 13 and I'm crappy at doing stuff that I should like chores and stuff but wow if I did something like that I'd be grounded from the front so quick my eyes would leak from my skull lol :p ^^;

dude like you like to get Amy upset? the people you're in a group with are like your family. man you need to treat each other better. duh even I know that and I'm younger than you :p
LeAnne

Date: 2007-08-10 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raze--the-rose.livejournal.com
You may not see it as your body, but if you get Amy pregnant, where does that leave you? Would you also disregard the responsibility to the baby, because it's not "yours"? I have nothing against underage drinking, but having one of your head-mates wake up to some strange disease ridden man-whore isn't doing any of you any favours. Don't think you can leap in, use the body as a toy to have some fun, then dance out and avoid the consequences. Have to say, saying "I doubt it!" to the threat of Aids when you're allegedly waking up in other states sounds more like 14 than 18.

Date: 2007-08-10 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakshownia.livejournal.com
I think that's insulting to 14-year-olds =P Even someone that young should know better.

~Sati

Date: 2007-08-10 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raze--the-rose.livejournal.com
Apologies! I was implying that she should know better by now, not that younger teens DON'T know better. I should word comments better, sorry.

Date: 2007-08-10 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakshownia.livejournal.com
Haha no it's ok, I'm not 14 but like the commenter below other people here are =)

Date: 2007-08-10 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
hey man I'm 13 and I'd never do that crap :p
LeAnne
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Date: 2007-08-10 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
heya Taran. yeah I guess that's true! this body is like so much older than I am :/ but whatever right? this whole post really just confuses me so hard ^^;
LeAnne

Date: 2007-08-10 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raze--the-rose.livejournal.com
Humble apologies; I was not trying to imply that younger teens are more reckless, just that she should have learned better by now. Sorry!

Date: 2007-08-10 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
no problem! like someone else told me that being older doesn't always mean someone is smarter ♥
LeAnne

Date: 2007-08-10 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakshownia.livejournal.com
Uh, no offense, but it would probably be a good idea for the health of the body if you stepped back for a while - Amy is right, you're acting dangerously and you could easily get hurt. You can't be so reckless when you share your body with others - it isn't just yours to do what you want with, they have to use it too.


~Sati

Then again

Date: 2007-08-11 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spookshow-girl.livejournal.com
Amy is determined to get the body weight down to 63. Doesn't look like anyone over there is taking care of the body.

Looks like what we may have there, is an unabashed case of hypocrisy. Neither one demonstrates responsibility, or concern for their own well-being. As far as I'm concerned, they're making their bed.

--Me

Re: Then again

Date: 2007-08-11 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakshownia.livejournal.com
Good point.
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Or course

Date: 2007-08-11 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spookshow-girl.livejournal.com
Amy's just not going to feed the body.

So, lose/lose?

--Me

Date: 2007-08-10 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ramlatch.livejournal.com
Nice trolling, better luck next time tho' !

Date: 2007-08-10 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shade-durza.livejournal.com
Sounds like your life will be intense but very, very short. I'm a party-animal myself but I never act well...stupid. I like to party on a bit longer... It's sorta like indulgence vs. compulsion if ya know what I mean. Indulge yourself but take responsibility as well so think before ya act and all that...you're not the only one using the body.
I really hope this is fake however...

_Jack

Date: 2007-08-10 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liferain.livejournal.com
This is a pretty good attempt at trolling, actually. Had me fooled for a bit.

Date: 2007-08-10 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev-fan1217.livejournal.com
Ok. This may come back to bite me in the ass later but I honestly don't think Jakie is trolling...Extremely confused, most definitely. Badly in need of house rules, yes most definitely... But I honestly don't think she's trolling. Maybe sometimes I think too highly of people.
AMT

Date: 2007-08-10 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakshownia.livejournal.com
I'd think this was a troll post except that she made a new journal and even filled out the info and wrote a first post in it, which doesn't seem to be typical troll behavior. I mean, why go to all the trouble?


~Sati

Date: 2007-08-10 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev-fan1217.livejournal.com
And she also needs very badly to be locked out of front till she can get some BRAINS in her head!

Date: 2007-08-10 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
I don't have much to add to what everyone else has said. Your presentation (here and in your and [livejournal.com profile] amyystar63's journals) is giving off strong stereotype vibes, to the point that I'm wondering if you're saying these things because you want us to believe you're multiple. Or you want to believe it yourself/ves.

You wouldn't be the first people to try it on for size to see if it fits who you really are, but you shouldn't model yourselves after media depictions.

Date: 2007-08-10 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lion-azure.livejournal.com
Pardon my language, but I'm not one for pussyfooting around the issue.

Girl, there's a difference between being your own person, having fun, being wild and all that good stuff and basically being a stupid, irresponsible jerk. You're being the latter. By getting the body you live in deseased and poisoned, you're pissing in your own shoes. Because, if you haven't noticed yet, hey, you're the one IN the body when fronting. And once you're broken, addicted and pregnant, the fun is over for everyone, including you.
Life can be fun without fucking up things for everyone else. You're sharing this life, so learn the first rule of sharing, right? And stop acting like a spoilt five-year-old.

- Ash

Date: 2007-08-10 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lion-azure.livejournal.com
PS: And all this being thin and pretty bs is just that, bs. Nothing to say against being fit, but walking skeletons aren't pretty. They're scary.

Date: 2007-08-10 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
sweet! ♥ ♥

Date: 2007-08-10 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padawanagain.livejournal.com
Yeah, people don't look at skeletons and think that's hot. They think ewwwww.

Date: 2007-08-10 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forever-alone.livejournal.com
Take some damn responsibility.
C.

Ditto the other comments in here...

Date: 2007-08-10 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecuteone33.livejournal.com
I wanted to say ditto the other comments in here...

Integration vs NOt integrating -- responsibility probably the first thing you need to learn...

My alters try to be respectful about whatever actions they take may affect me and others... (try is the operative word here)...

my .03 cents

Carrie

Date: 2007-08-10 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themournfulduck.livejournal.com
Jak_ay = J.K. = just kidding?

LOL

Date: 2007-08-12 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naive-tree.livejournal.com
I WOULD HOPE SO

Date: 2007-08-11 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
My dear, the whole idea you have, of irresponsible fun is going to do you in VERY nastily, assuming you really mean it. It is not proper, nor respectful of your Others to do this to them. I do NOT recommend doing the so-called "fun sex" thing. The idea you have, of slamming doors in your Others' metaphorical nose is going to make things very ugly between you and them in the long run. I believe the Biblical Authors at least got one thing right: "You reap what you sow."

I feel bad for your physical body, and if you give it AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea(SP), chlamydia, or get it pregnant, you will too. People within systems are bound by that physical home they all bear. And this nonsense you're engaging in, with a glorified idea of "ME HAVE FUN! LOLZ!", if you were in the Crew, I and quite a few others would permanently ban you from fronting, and probably from where in our Otherworld we're located. I hope sincerely that if you are not having us on, that you work this out with your fellow bodymates. Otherwise, they may not be all sweetness and light to you in the long run. Or, mabye they will be. I don't know, but my hope is they won't be. Lack of fun is necessary, sometimes to guarantee safety.

Now, I personally think that you are a troll, I hope you are a troll, and if you mock our post for this feeding your trollishness, bring it. >.>

Arthur Knight^Crew.

Date: 2007-08-13 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teh-kerry.livejournal.com
if thats true its fucked up. me and tash would love to be out doing all that shit... getting drunk, sex, drugs, parties, all the music we did before here, all that lot. but cos the body's 14, you really have to be more fucking responsible. if you want to do that, do it inside, + if you dont have an inside, thats your problem. if you ruin the body, then frontings going to be a lot worse for you all.

Date: 2007-08-13 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teh-kerry.livejournal.com
dammit i do not look like that. we badly need new userpics.

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