[identity profile] redrainstorm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
When in a chatroom with alleged multiples, they seem to switch very quickly between their mates. In one comment they're a little, and two seconds later they're a big, and three seconds after that they're an "angry alter", etc. For many reasons other then this though, I believe they're faking. But just wondered if this is possible for others.
I've tried to have my group better at rapid switching where we can switch out quickly and be completely separate while fronting because I think it would benefit certain situations, and I can't do it that fast.
Cofronting is even difficult... Our thoughts are kind of meshed... Or come out as one thought between the two of us. But they don't come out "I want to go!" "Me too!" All in one blurb.
I was wondering if people can truly switch as fast as these people in the chatroom do, because we can't do it even when trying!

Date: 2006-08-30 02:39 pm (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
we can switch fairly easily, but if someone's having a conversation then we try not to do it too much during the conversation. on the internet, it's usually - okay, it's my turn to do my stuff, okay, your turn. we even use seperate accounts on our computer, seperate browsers, seperate cookies, etc. if we were in a chatroom, i think if someone else came out because they'd want to talk, they'd want to stick around to have a conversation, not saying two words and then leave.

but some systems are more co-consicous than we are and are able to do several things at once.

Date: 2006-08-30 02:44 pm (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
we do do a few things co-consciously, but it takes effort and we don't like doing it around people. for example as children we'd play with dolls and everyone would pick a doll. or we'd play uno or monopoly through dolls. i think our kids still do that, but we don't like doing it around other people.

aside from stuff like that, there aren't many things that most of us are interested in doing all together.

it's kind of like when my friends say "it must be great being multiple! you get breaks!"

yeah, I get breaks from playing on the internet, playing with kitties, watching tv, watching a movie, playing cards, eating pizza... are we seeing a pattern here?

people are generally a lot less interested in giving whoever's out front a break from a migraine or bad period pains.

so if something is sufficiently fun and interesting, we'll have more people interested in taking part. but if it's a conversation, whoever's interested will talk, and we might switch when the topic changes, if whoever's been out got bored and someone else is interested.

Ha!

Date: 2006-08-30 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldnamer.livejournal.com
yeah, I get breaks from playing on the internet, playing with kitties, watching tv, watching a movie, playing cards, eating pizza... are we seeing a pattern here?

Three of us were having an argument the other night about whose turn it was to do the dishes. :P

Re: Ha!

Date: 2006-08-31 11:54 am (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
one of the kids likes doing the dishes, but she mostly just splashes water and the dishes don't get all the clean. no one else /likes/ it. but it has to be done. bah. silly dishes.

Date: 2006-08-30 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kangetsuhime.livejournal.com
we even use seperate accounts on our computer, seperate browsers, seperate cookies, etc.

Fwee. IE is 'my' browser, logged in permantly to my LJ, my Vox, and other stuff. Firefox is 'Luwana's', and remains unlogged in to LJ in case anybody else wants to use it, is perma logged in to *her* Vox, etc.

Tried seperate windows accounts but we switched too much. Several browsers ftw.

Date: 2006-08-30 03:36 pm (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
we used to just use three diferent browsers for the three main people interested in using the internet, and we currently have 6 accounts on the computer, with people who don't have their own using whoever's (mine, usually). Some people like having their own account for privacy reasons. I filter stuff I don't want the kids reading - stuff about my own issues that doesn't need to effect them. I know one of the older kids filters stuff from the younger kids because it's caused problems in the past. Also, when you sign on to your account LJTalk loads with your screenname. AIM is only on my account, gtalk is on two accounts, LJTalk on three. And the kids like having their own background on the computer.

Date: 2006-08-30 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kangetsuhime.livejournal.com
Teehee. We compromise on backgrounds and privacy. We can't guarentee that either of us will be fronting for more than a minute. We switch too much/are too co-fronty. It's a shame because I think it would be awesome if we could have everything personalised. Trillian skins, Winamp colours, backgrounds. But we just switch way too much. I'll be chatting in IM and she'll decide to check LJ

LJTalk?

Date: 2006-08-31 11:57 am (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
winamp seems to think all windows accounts are the same. if you rate something a 3 in one account, it's a 3 in the other account too. if you make it purple in one account, it's purple in the other account too. kind of annoying. we're always rating other people's songs up or down accordingly...

LJTalk lets you talk to anyone on your friends list! it's cool. you need a client that supports the jabber protocol. I think Trillian probably works. We use Gaim. Then you set up the account, here's the information:

protocol: Jabber
screenname: yourljusername
server: livejournal.com
password: yourljpassword

port 5222

I have "use tls if available" checked and i have these unchecked: "force old ssl" and "allow plaintext auth over unencrypted streams". whatever that means.

Date: 2006-08-31 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kangetsuhime.livejournal.com
D= Identical winamp colours is the lose.

I'll poke trillian. That would unnerve me admittedly (anyone but LJ getting my Id and password)

Date: 2006-08-31 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kangetsuhime.livejournal.com
(addendum: since the server is LJ.com I'm probably safe. like I sai I'll poke around. never seen anybody using it.)

Date: 2006-08-31 02:08 pm (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
it's pretty new. I'll find the lj-dev post for you about it.

http://community.livejournal.com/lj_dev/716451.html written by Brad, himself. No clue why they haven't announced it in the news yet, but it might still be in beta. It works fine, though. It's available for free accounts, paid accounts, etc. If you haven't seen anyone using it, your friends list might not know about it, which means they won't be logged in to talk, but a post to your journal(s) should fix that. :)

Date: 2006-08-31 02:09 pm (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
and yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone else with my password, but the server is livejournal.com, and the creator of livejournal is the one who posted about it to lj-dev, and lj-dev is an official community, so that's enough for me to trust it.

Date: 2006-09-01 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kangetsuhime.livejournal.com
Trillian (Pro Only)

Saw you mention trillian (I think?). Do you use that for LJTalk? It still work alright?

Date: 2006-09-01 11:19 am (UTC)
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)
From: [personal profile] pthalo
I don't use Trillian, and haven't for a long time, since well before LJTalk existed. So I didnt know if it worked or not, I just assumed. I know that gaim works. Though it won't work for us until our friend finishes making us a proxy to help us tunnel through this ridiculous firewall. We can only use port 80 right now. But that shouldn't be a problem if you have a normal internet connection.

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