Abusive personalities
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multiplicity_archivesWe're new around here, so forgive us if we're not quite up to date on any of the commonly used lingo or terms commonly used round here. If any of the terms we use are confusing or offensive, please let us know.
We are not a natural multiple. The birth personality didn't have other personalities until the age of 13. When Brian and I appeared, he wasn't too happy about the idea of willingly sharing his life with us. We were ok with that, and willingly let him treat us as servants, but some of the later personalities objected to that, and demanded equal rights, including sanctioned control of our body at regular intervals. The birth personality refused, so three years of fighting between his side and theirs resulted. The tactics used were rather savage at times, including purposfully hurting the body and those personalities within it. Rape of the female personalities inner bodies was rather common as well, and occured on both sides. Eventually the birth personality was willing to concede equal time in control to any personalities that wanted it, and the conflict ended for the majority of us.
However, many of the male personalities who participated in rape during the initial conflict have continued to do so to satisfy their own lust and desire for power.
We've tried to work things out with them ourselves, but they seem to view female personalities as inferior as refuse to tak us seriously. We tried having our close friends on the outside talk to them but that hasn't helped either. The idea of integration is terrifying to most of us, because we think it would mean ending our existence in all meaningful ways. We tried seeking out a therapist who might offer some sort of mediation without trying to recombine us, but had no luck with that whatsoever. All of them said they were unwilling to take our case.
We've tried figuring out the cause. Initially we believe it might have to do with having a male body, but we seek to keep it's carnal drives fairly well satisfied so we don't believe that's the issue.
Currently the offenders either exist down within our subconscious in a sort of a realm we call the dreamscape where they live peaceful lives in a sort of dreamworld. That appears to be working at the moment, however in the past we've developed solutions that have seemed promising but have failed. We were wondering if anyone else has had similar troubles, and if they've developed successful ways of solving them.
-Liz
We are not a natural multiple. The birth personality didn't have other personalities until the age of 13. When Brian and I appeared, he wasn't too happy about the idea of willingly sharing his life with us. We were ok with that, and willingly let him treat us as servants, but some of the later personalities objected to that, and demanded equal rights, including sanctioned control of our body at regular intervals. The birth personality refused, so three years of fighting between his side and theirs resulted. The tactics used were rather savage at times, including purposfully hurting the body and those personalities within it. Rape of the female personalities inner bodies was rather common as well, and occured on both sides. Eventually the birth personality was willing to concede equal time in control to any personalities that wanted it, and the conflict ended for the majority of us.
However, many of the male personalities who participated in rape during the initial conflict have continued to do so to satisfy their own lust and desire for power.
We've tried to work things out with them ourselves, but they seem to view female personalities as inferior as refuse to tak us seriously. We tried having our close friends on the outside talk to them but that hasn't helped either. The idea of integration is terrifying to most of us, because we think it would mean ending our existence in all meaningful ways. We tried seeking out a therapist who might offer some sort of mediation without trying to recombine us, but had no luck with that whatsoever. All of them said they were unwilling to take our case.
We've tried figuring out the cause. Initially we believe it might have to do with having a male body, but we seek to keep it's carnal drives fairly well satisfied so we don't believe that's the issue.
Currently the offenders either exist down within our subconscious in a sort of a realm we call the dreamscape where they live peaceful lives in a sort of dreamworld. That appears to be working at the moment, however in the past we've developed solutions that have seemed promising but have failed. We were wondering if anyone else has had similar troubles, and if they've developed successful ways of solving them.
-Liz
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Date: 2004-09-26 12:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-26 01:16 pm (UTC)Anyway, he doesn't allow any overtly violent behavior between system members unless it's sanctioned by him, and for the most part keeps those with violent or abusive personalities in the Back where they won't come into contact with the rest of the System. I have no real clue how he enforces this, just that he does. We fairly recently had a system member with a very intolerant and often agressive and physically violent additude, which was causeing a lot of problems both in-system and in our relationship with the ShadowEchoes. We don't know how, we don't know exactly what happened, but Shadowalker disciplined him, and... well.. took his balls o.O it's one of the oddest things that has ever happened in our system, really, and the guy in question is definately... not... agressive anymore.
I'd have Shadowalker tell you but... well, he isn't talking, and no one pushes his buttons o.o he's not a bad guy, he's just... kinda scarey when he does stuff like that :| Ghost could probably explain better, but she doesn't interact with the Outside really anymore. She's his twin.
~ Jael
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Date: 2004-09-26 03:04 pm (UTC)It's somewhat comforting to hear that the solution has worked for you. Perhaps it will work similarly for us.
-Liz
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Date: 2004-09-26 03:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-26 06:43 pm (UTC)-Liz
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Date: 2004-09-26 04:22 pm (UTC)excuse me, but keep comments like that to yourself, you don't know jack and if you're going to be a narrowminded prig you can just step off
~Onyx, very pissed off
He's a flame-monger
Date: 2004-09-26 04:29 pm (UTC)--Me
Re: He's a flame-monger
Date: 2004-09-26 04:31 pm (UTC)Re: He's a flame-monger
Date: 2004-09-26 11:54 pm (UTC)And you
Date: 2004-09-26 04:24 pm (UTC)--Me
Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-26 08:02 pm (UTC){J}tatiana
Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 01:38 am (UTC)To me, his responses are textbook trollery, nothing new, to be just ignored. If people are really offended I'll can his ass. But he just really sounds like a more ordinary dipshit.
Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 09:29 am (UTC)Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 09:43 pm (UTC)Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 09:47 pm (UTC)Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 12:05 pm (UTC)-BL
Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 09:44 pm (UTC)Re: And you
Date: 2004-09-27 09:58 pm (UTC)Go ahead and delete his comments.
-Samantha
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Date: 2004-09-27 05:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-27 09:45 pm (UTC)Whoa
Date: 2004-09-26 04:31 pm (UTC)It involves acts of violence.
Good luck, and I'm really sorry I can't be useful here.
--Me
Re: Whoa
Date: 2004-09-26 06:44 pm (UTC)-Liz
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Date: 2004-09-26 07:04 pm (UTC)That said though, I can only speak from my point of view in the System. There is a Dark Back that I and most of the members of the Front part do not have access to. From what I gather, Toiran (he is in charge of that area in the system) is sometimes abusive to the other members in the Dark Back. I don't really know first hand though.
~Jassa
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Date: 2004-09-27 07:35 am (UTC)-BL
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Date: 2004-09-26 07:57 pm (UTC)I hope this helps.
{J}tatiana
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Date: 2004-09-27 07:39 am (UTC)-BL
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Date: 2004-09-27 04:20 pm (UTC)Tatiana
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Date: 2004-09-27 05:37 pm (UTC)Your inner world sounds rather "solid" compared to ours. Our inner world is rather prone to being warped by the will of those within it. For example if we created prisons like the humans in your system have, the personalities we were trying to imprison would just will them into non-existance.
So I guess my question is has your inner world always been as "solid" as it is now, or did you do something to make it that way?
-BL
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Date: 2004-09-29 08:44 pm (UTC)Does that help?
{J}tatiana
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Date: 2004-09-30 03:27 pm (UTC)-Liz
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Date: 2004-09-27 11:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-28 11:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-01 10:25 am (UTC)and depends on how you look at it-- we somewhat manage to lessen the friction by having someone that is capable of being a mediator/pillar.. (or safety shield, if you prefer.. *cringe*)
he/she's somehow outside the bloodlines/ yet to have anyone else similar, and strong/influental enough to both gain respect/ obedience from some and forcibly make the rest listen.. (and some few other ways, but.. well, basically that's it ^^;)
yes, our system is very dependant to that person, being the thin line that separates war and truce--
but still, there are bloodlines and creatures (not necessarily humanoid) that wouldn't even consider cooperating/coexist ignorantly without that person's existence (in some cases, they're not even able to 'consider', so he/she just.. destroy them, being one of the strongest)
not yet to come up with another solution.. *sweatdrops*
- Oz
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Date: 2004-10-01 01:44 pm (UTC)-Phoenix
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Date: 2007-01-09 12:18 pm (UTC)