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Abusive personalities

We're new around here, so forgive us if we're not quite up to date on any of the commonly used lingo or terms commonly used round here. If any of the terms we use are confusing or offensive, please let us know.

We are not a natural multiple. The birth personality didn't have other personalities until the age of 13. When Brian and I appeared, he wasn't too happy about the idea of willingly sharing his life with us. We were ok with that, and willingly let him treat us as servants, but some of the later personalities objected to that, and demanded equal rights, including sanctioned control of our body at regular intervals. The birth personality refused, so three years of fighting between his side and theirs resulted. The tactics used were rather savage at times, including purposfully hurting the body and those personalities within it. Rape of the female personalities inner bodies was rather common as well, and occured on both sides. Eventually the birth personality was willing to concede equal time in control to any personalities that wanted it, and the conflict ended for the majority of us.

However, many of the male personalities who participated in rape during the initial conflict have continued to do so to satisfy their own lust and desire for power.

We've tried to work things out with them ourselves, but they seem to view female personalities as inferior as refuse to tak us seriously. We tried having our close friends on the outside talk to them but that hasn't helped either. The idea of integration is terrifying to most of us, because we think it would mean ending our existence in all meaningful ways. We tried seeking out a therapist who might offer some sort of mediation without trying to recombine us, but had no luck with that whatsoever. All of them said they were unwilling to take our case.

We've tried figuring out the cause. Initially we believe it might have to do with having a male body, but we seek to keep it's carnal drives fairly well satisfied so we don't believe that's the issue.

Currently the offenders either exist down within our subconscious in a sort of a realm we call the dreamscape where they live peaceful lives in a sort of dreamworld. That appears to be working at the moment, however in the past we've developed solutions that have seemed promising but have failed. We were wondering if anyone else has had similar troubles, and if they've developed successful ways of solving them.

-Liz

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uh, no.. can't say that we have..

well, we have one guy in our system who is kind of like the ulimate Control and Protector... what he says, goes, no matter who you are in the System, even the Host (Ralk). He's not like a regular... well he's not like a system member. He doesn't seem like a split or even one of Us in the normal sense, he's physically there but can do a lot of things we can't, he's more like a Memory and Control combined and given a body o.O

Anyway, he doesn't allow any overtly violent behavior between system members unless it's sanctioned by him, and for the most part keeps those with violent or abusive personalities in the Back where they won't come into contact with the rest of the System. I have no real clue how he enforces this, just that he does. We fairly recently had a system member with a very intolerant and often agressive and physically violent additude, which was causeing a lot of problems both in-system and in our relationship with the ShadowEchoes. We don't know how, we don't know exactly what happened, but Shadowalker disciplined him, and... well.. took his balls o.O it's one of the oddest things that has ever happened in our system, really, and the guy in question is definately... not... agressive anymore.
I'd have Shadowalker tell you but... well, he isn't talking, and no one pushes his buttons o.o he's not a bad guy, he's just... kinda scarey when he does stuff like that :| Ghost could probably explain better, but she doesn't interact with the Outside really anymore. She's his twin.

~ Jael

We have a being similar to the one you describe. He the one that tends the dream world or "dreamscape" as we call it, but he also has significant control over our "layer" of reality too.

It's somewhat comforting to hear that the solution has worked for you. Perhaps it will work similarly for us.

-Liz

I hope it works out for you guys. everyone deserves to be treated as a person, not an object. and no one should have to endure from the Inside(which should be a safe haven) that kind of abuse. Good luck to you.

Thank you.

-Liz

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what the FUCK

excuse me, but keep comments like that to yourself, you don't know jack and if you're going to be a narrowminded prig you can just step off

~Onyx, very pissed off

*yawns* Idiots again? But I had that last night!

--Me

apparently ;} took us a bit to react and look at his journal. a plain old troll, and really not worth our time.

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actually, my dad didn't beat me. But if I saw you face to face you fucking bastard I sure as hell would blow your fucking nuts off with a 12 gauge and laugh while your blood stains the ground. Get the fuck off of our turf.

Are fucking boring. Go get fucked. You apparently need it.

--Me

*giggles* so agree. another spermsucker perhaps? or asshat? :)

{J}tatiana

Probably an asshat. As I said earlier, he says in his lj that he is tired of it all and will not be posting anymore, but I also know that such things are habit-forming.

To me, his responses are textbook trollery, nothing new, to be just ignored. If people are really offended I'll can his ass. But he just really sounds like a more ordinary dipshit.

hey, I hate to bug but janusdoa is obviously still causing problems, and he's causing some major problems in my system with my kids and a couple others. Could you please do something about him? I really don't need Onyx flying off the handle like she did in her last comment to him.

Done.

thank you very very muchly :}

We would like him gone as well. Not only becuase he offends us, but because we feel like people won't freely talk if they have to worry about him being a jerk to them.

-BL

He's gone. Should I delete the things he posted, or leave them so that future members can backtrack and see what he said?

Thanks.

Go ahead and delete his comments.

-Samantha

Yes, ban him. He is here for no purpose but to inflict pain and distress on people he believes to be vulnerable.

He's out of here. Thanks for the feedback.

That's some heavy shit right there. I'm sorry, most of my advice isn't too helpful, or constructive.

It involves acts of violence.

Good luck, and I'm really sorry I can't be useful here.

--Me

Thanks for your sympathy anyway.

-Liz

Our system doesn't have that problem persay, but We do have system rules that are enforced by two "control-type entities" who aren't exactly like the rest of the system members. Any system rules that are broken have punishments - it mostly includes going into what We call lockdown. Basically a padded room in seclusion from the rest of the system. That way they can't interact with the Outside or the Inside. The problems We usually have to control though have to do with harming the body on the Outside, not inside abuse of other system members.

That said though, I can only speak from my point of view in the System. There is a Dark Back that I and most of the members of the Front part do not have access to. From what I gather, Toiran (he is in charge of that area in the system) is sometimes abusive to the other members in the Dark Back. I don't really know first hand though.

~Jassa

Alright, thanks for the explanation.

-BL

short version: yes we've had similar situations. we dealt with it by locking up the very violent & uncontrollable ones, among the humans. On my side of things, the Darks as we are called, violent ones were usually rewarded to a degree. Wars came & went 3 tims in this system tween us & the humans. Twas finally dealt with when we Darks were given a choice to pick a mediator we approved of so we could see if negotiations would happen tween our two species. It took about 2 years but peace did happen, and when it did, Darks continued to raid each others villages sometimes but more often things were calmer. The humans avoided us or if we had contact, they would trade goods w/us. So long as we stayed behind our respective borders or secured safe passage tween the two lands, life was more or less peaceful.

I hope this helps.

{J}tatiana

Hopefully it will somewhat. Thanks.

-BL

If you want/need more ideas or whatever, say so... I'll dredge up what memories I can.

Tatiana

Well I did have a question actually.

Your inner world sounds rather "solid" compared to ours. Our inner world is rather prone to being warped by the will of those within it. For example if we created prisons like the humans in your system have, the personalities we were trying to imprison would just will them into non-existance.

So I guess my question is has your inner world always been as "solid" as it is now, or did you do something to make it that way?

-BL

at one time control was given to two entities that were able to make things solid or they could, at will, warp our inner reality. Nowadays, most anyone can warp inner reality but our system is far more cooperative so its less harmful to have given everyone that ability.

Does that help?

{J}tatiana

Alright, I think we understand now.

-Liz

Okay, jackass banned and his commentary deleted.

yes we have had and still had similar situations. sorry to say we still do

.. we had, I think.. there are clans/ families / bloodlines that apparently just 'ingrained' to hate/abuse/attack each other or everyone else, one way or another~

and depends on how you look at it-- we somewhat manage to lessen the friction by having someone that is capable of being a mediator/pillar.. (or safety shield, if you prefer.. *cringe*)
he/she's somehow outside the bloodlines/ yet to have anyone else similar, and strong/influental enough to both gain respect/ obedience from some and forcibly make the rest listen.. (and some few other ways, but.. well, basically that's it ^^;)

yes, our system is very dependant to that person, being the thin line that separates war and truce--

but still, there are bloodlines and creatures (not necessarily humanoid) that wouldn't even consider cooperating/coexist ignorantly without that person's existence (in some cases, they're not even able to 'consider', so he/she just.. destroy them, being one of the strongest)

not yet to come up with another solution.. *sweatdrops*

- Oz

Well at least it sounds like it's working for you.

-Phoenix

We've also had that problem, and we have solved it by using the Milligan-style Undesirable system. Rape of internal bodies has occurred, and rape itself is one of the less nice aspects of our world. As for hurting the body itself, that crap doesn't happen with our system. When the issue of the rapes committed internally by one of our system members came to light, he was banned from fronting and placed on mind-sappers. Our system doesn't look on rape, whether internal or external, with a light eye.

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