the rape victim series II

[sosadlyfucked.livejournal.com]

"he said it wouldn't hurt"






About 44% of rape victims are under age 18. Three out of every twenty victims (15%) are under age 12.

rape, abuse, and incest national network

Comments

[tir-nan-og.livejournal.com]

'Abuse origin?' I dont think we need to hammer out that distinction. I seem to recall a discussion here about a month ago, where nature versus lack of nurture came up, and a fair ammount of people said that they had trauma in their backgrounds, but feel they would have been multiple anyway.
I dont think we need to get into a big hooha about changing Multiplicity or more rigorous censorship. It was taken care of amongst ourselves without any outside rules. It was really rather personal rather than something that needs to be taken into account as far as the tone of the community in general.
Some of us found that doll PARTICULARLY heinous. I've never uttered a peep about something being gratuitous for a particular community before, but that did it. It was really a personal sort of thing. Elenbarathi knew I and another close friend were going to have a hard time with it, and so she spoke her mind in her firm, clear way. I was very troubled because I, in turn, anticipated my friend seeing it, and it seemed like the sort of thing she would be particularly vulnerable to seeing.
Again, what made it more unacceptable was the fact that it seemed to be primarily an art piece, or motivated by darker intentions, as Jinx replied. (The art itself wasnt bad, by the way.)
I think this particular wave of responses by a group of close-knit friends need not bode changes for the house rules of this community, John Shao.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

I don't believe John was talking about changing the community rules. In fact I can't see where he said they ought to be. He said the name ought to be changed if the majority of systems here identify as being trauma-created, which I had been the first one to propose-- if the focus is going to be on protecting people from getting triggered due to things which remind them of past traumas, it's not a place we're going to feel welcome in.

Likewise, what you perceive here is also a wave of responses by a group of close-knit friends. None of us have the power to effect change in the rules of the community, as we are not mods, even if we had wanted to.

[tir-nan-og.livejournal.com]

You are right. I had assumed a change of name would mean a change of bylaws as well.
The thing that really attracts me to this community is that it is a crossroads for all kinds of multiples, and the entire range of thought regarding multiplicity itself. We have aspie multiples, otherkin, simply natural multiples, natural with trauma as a kicker..the whole gamut, right up to and including trauma ORIGIN and the whole medicalised DID model. As such, we are right on the front lines of many battles. We dicker about philosophy, ideology, psychiatry and neurology, and ethics. We have to plod through so much swampy ground to discuss these wildly divergent views of ourselves.
To get to the point, I would be extremely sorry if you and ksol no longer felt welcome in the community because of this particular wave of feeling. An expression of strong emotions by multiples with a trauma background, over one particular image, is not a signal that you should be on your merry way. For my own part, I would be shocked if the same reaction to an image would ever happen again..you can quote me on that. It was a particularly effective, highly specific, completely ill timed image. We all have our achilles heels.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

'Abuse origin?' I dont think we need to hammer out that distinction. I seem to recall a discussion here about a month ago, where nature versus lack of nurture came up, and a fair ammount of people said that they had trauma in their backgrounds, but feel they would have been multiple anyway.

FWIW, I do think it's important that the distinction be made between people who feel they are multiple and happen to be abuse survivors, and people who feel they started out as one person who split due to trauma. The fact is that the public, by and large, thinks that ALL multiples are the latter. We feel it is important to make distinctions of "The fact that I was abused is not why I am multiple" (or even "I was abused -because- I was multiple," which is far more common than most people generally let on).

[tir-nan-og.livejournal.com]

Yes. Absolutely.