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[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

Trigger warnings? links to a 'healthy place'? People whining about their meds, their suicide attempts, their multiple diagnoses and all their pain?

Why don't we just name this group Twinkle Angel Pooh Bear's Happy Safe Hugfest for Broken Survivors of Bad Things and Their Inner Cute Chubby Kids Who Can't Spell already?

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[emploding.livejournal.com]

your right. people should only be happy. seeing as though i have to pretend all day to be happy, i would love to continue that charade around people who understand.
next time i post, it will be about how i love being multiple, and how easy it is and how all the flashbacks are just great entertainment.

while im there, ill give my 4 year olds dictionarys for christmas, so they can spell just as well as you do.

would that suit your needs better?

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

My five year old would probably love a dictionary for Christmas. Perhaps your four year olds would too.

after thought

[emploding.livejournal.com]

If you dont like it, noone is forcing you to stay :)

Re: after thought

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

No one's begging you to stay either, sweetpea. :o)

Re: after thought

[qilora.livejournal.com]

yes, but if all us functional-systems ran off to hide, then any new groups that wandered into this comm, in hopes of meeting a few comrades, would have only the dysfunctionals here to serve as examples for this way of life...

some of us prefer not to let Sybil be the only example of multiplicity "out there"....

iamshadow are entitled to vent a bit at how *annoying* life has been in this comm.. or is that only allowed of the dys-functionals?

Juju & Co.

[thenetwork.livejournal.com]

::cheers, applause, caterwauls::

Yes, some of us are tired of the Fuzzy Shredded Wheats Winding Stairs to Splintered Redemption and we like life. If the DIDiots don't like *that*, they can thread it, lube it, sit down hard and spin clockwise. And we're not letting the DIDiots chase us off out of everyfuckingwhere. They should give those poor kids *full access* to the body's brain for one, because not doing so is child abuse of the worst kind. And yes, dictionaries and books and Cthulhu stuffies and living dead dolls. And waterbombs.

Hear, hear!

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

five devours words more than I do. She's learned all the latin names for her plants in the garden, and she's keen to learn some latin so that she can understand what they mean too. The dictionary sits right next to the keyboard, and if we don't know the spelling, she finds out. She's too fastidious not to.

[neitherday.livejournal.com]

You act as if all members of multiple systems are capable of "giving" access to parts of the brain. I don't have full access to the brain, And even if I did, how would I "give" the littles (or anyone else) in our system such access?

[walkerinthegrey.livejournal.com]

I want a Cthulhu stuffie...

Um. Should I pretend that was posted by one of the littles or just admit that I'm a twenty-something man who likes stuffed animals?

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

There, there!

[elenbarathi.livejournal.com]

I hear you. It has gotten a bit... sticky lately, hasn't it? I try to be patient, because people who are having a hard time do not want unrequested advice, and everyone's entitled to their own belief-systems, whether or not I think them plausible or functional...

... comes out to the same thing as in mainstream society, though: keeping silence so as not to rock the boat. Not that silence is a bad thing, of course, but sometimes I have the urge to say what I really think, and it's a little annoying to realize just how unacceptable that would be.

*shrugs* I am quite adamantly anti-psychiatry: I agree with Thomas Szasz (http://reason.com/0007/fe.js.curing.shtml) that there is no such thing as "mental illness", and with Peter Breggin (http://www.breggin.com/brain-disablingch1.html) that psychiatric medications achieve their effect by causing brain dysfunction. I also agree with Caroline Myss (http://edgarcayce.com/whypeople.html) that a lot of people don't heal because they're getting more out of staying hurt. None of these are popular views.

I like being multiple. I love my 'brothers' dearly; they love me; we work well together. I like being autistic too; the advantages greatly outweigh the disadvantages. Sure, I have pain and "issues", but as far as I can determine, all people have pain, so I am not going to use mine to play "Can You Top This?" - tedious game, that, and I quickly grow bored with watching others play it.

*wry grin* I always wonder what's up with these littles who cannot spell, but who CAN type, and can manage a computer well enough to interact on a blog or chatsite, and... well, it just seems odd. I also wonder what's going on when members of the same 'system' post to one another online... I mean, really, aren't they right there in the same body?

Whatever, y'know?

[thenetwork.livejournal.com]

I always wonder what's up with these littles who cannot spell, but who CAN type, and can manage a computer well enough to interact on a blog or chatsite, and... well, it just seems odd.

It would seem to point to the fact that the kids are given selective access to skills on a blow-by-blow basis.... When one of them has something to say that someone ELSE in the system wants them to say, their spelling and grammar improves dramatically. The trest of the time, they aren't allowed standard skills for their age-group even. It's... ew.

Good post!

[bialmighty.livejournal.com]

Thank you for being the voice of reason ^_^
I wanted to say something along those lines, but I knew I wouldn't be able to word it quite right- very good post, especially the part about _everyone_ having some pain, functional or not. More people have to realise this.

We are all different and so have our differences, but we still have to try and get along. This morning I went to comment on another post here, but decided to keep my mouth shut instead of getting involved (I would have practically been shouting at the original poster, and I don't think it would have helped the situation).

(I'm going to friend you, if you don't mind ^_^)

[xerne.livejournal.com]

I also wonder what's going on when members of the same 'system' post to one another online... I mean, really, aren't they right there in the same body?

Sometimes it's easier to leave a post-it note outside the head than in. =P

[pengke.livejournal.com]

Littlespeak usually has less to do with the spelling ability of the children and more to do with the multiple culture. In a lot of places, children that don't use littlespeak will be accused of not really being children. It is definitely something that children are learning from children in other systems as the proper way to act. There is also the hypothesis that some of the littlespeak may be the adults in the system typing the child's message for him or her and mangling it to look more childlike.

As for multiples writing to themselves online, you have to remember that not every multiple can communicate the way that you do. Some multiples never have direct communication with the others in their body so they have to rely on external communication through notes or journals or messages online. Others may have problems with identity or mushing or some facet of fronting makes communication difficult so that it's easier for them to alternate control of the body to post messages and communicate that way.

You also have scenarios where one person may say their piece but then someone else disagrees. So rather than disrupt the first person's post they'll make a second one about their opinion. Then there's always the attention factor. Some people will do it just to show the world how crazy or cute or whatever being multiple is.

[shandra.livejournal.com]

Our kids don't use lil speak, but we do sometimes post to each other... we've increased our co-consciousness some, but it's definitely not there all the time. However we mostly use offline means. :)

Shandra

[theghostwalkers.livejournal.com]

Trigger warnings are considerations for Others. I trigger posts because Our 'host' reads some of Our journalling on ocassion. (He) is still quite new to the world of DID and Multiplicity; it's for (his) safety. Personally, I find nothing wrong with them, nor with other topics of conversation you have mentioned. Discussions of meds, etc, can lead to comments and questions that may help the person having issues with those particular topics.

--B.

[neitherday.livejournal.com]

We're a "dysfunctional" system. Yep, it's true. We don't always share time. None of us have full access to the brain. I cut. Others inside cut. But we've cut down on the cutting. I've also cut down on purging. Quite a bit. Proud of the progress we've made. Medication, namely Geodon, has helped. Oh my gods! Did she say "medication"? Yep, I think she did. If you can't handle these things being mentioned, maybe you're the one who's not really functional.

[pengke.livejournal.com]

Although I'm not sure what they were referring to by medications, there is a difference between topics coming up in discussion and people proudly displaying their dysfunctionality and expecting attention and sympathy for it. It's like the difference between someone calling in to an advice hotline and someone going on Jerry Springer. There's also a difference between participating in a community and swamping the community with posts you've sent to half a dozen other communities or treating the community like it's your private personal journal.

As for you, personally, none of us have noticed you participating in any of that sort of behavior in this community. The fact that you are proud of the progress you've made tells me that you're working to become functional instead of proudly wallowing in your disfunctionality. No one would berate you for that.

Plus you have to remember that being functional doesn't mean you're perfect. Being functional is working around obstacles so that you can live as full and complete a life as possible. You can still have issues with your past and be functional. You can lose time and be functional as long as you've worked out a way to deal with the information problems and how you're going to manage responsibilities if people switch at inopportune times. Being functional is respecting each other and working as a group in whatever manner works best for you. Being functional is fixing the things you can and dealing with the things you can't and not wallowing in things in stead of improving them.

[cheshire-house.livejournal.com]

Let me make sure i've got this straight: You're sick of all the whining and bitching and complaining...so you're complaining about the complaining. Just checking.

*amused*

[thenetwork.livejournal.com]

It started a cool discussion, though, did it not? *g*

Just out of curiousity...

[ques-nova.livejournal.com]

...have you always been a "functional" multiple? Was there ever a time when having more thatn one person living in your head bothered you, messed with life or caused problems?
Everyone is growing up, some more slowly than others, but we all have to begin somewhere. I haven't even read the post(s) you're talking about yet, but my guess is that someone hasn't grown up quite as much as you think they should, so you're going to bitch and moan about it.
Try seeing things from another point of veiw, not your's where your system works, but another's in a system with violent alters who can't be controlled, and destructive alters who'd love to see nothing more than the end of said system, and risky alters who would try anything twice, who'd sleep with anyone, take any drug, or race anyone down on a dark and rainy night, and real children alters who are just that: children, too young to know any better and confused about the "world" they live in. Mix all three components and add one, maybe two responsible alters who try to keep things balanced.
Multiplicity can, by all means work. The issues we all have dealt with can work, but for some it's more difficult than others. For some it takes longer than others.
As I said, I haven't read the post(s) which this was directed against, so maybe I'm wrong and someone out there is just whining for attention. Maybe that someone is actually the destructive one in their systems, but either way, they're at least trying to hold things together. You sit up here all high and mighty because your system works, maybe you should step down and offer a helping hand, show them how you got to the point you're at?

interesting thread

[sexylittleone.livejournal.com]

ty for saying what I've been thinking.

We were not always so functional...shrugs for like 25 years we were pretty damn dysfunctional with a lot of teh characteristics you describe. shrugs we are 3 now..total.

things are better but not perfect.

ty for saying what has been on My (and others perhaps) minds.

El

[saturniakitty.livejournal.com]

What are "natural" multiples?

As far as littles who can't spell but can use computers goes, when Puchiko wants to say something (it's not often, but it happens) one of us will get everything set up for her, so all she was to do type what she wants to say. And when I was her age, I was also perfectly capable of pecking at keys on the keyboard. Usually though, someone else will just write for her, because changing the formatting to Japanese is a little tricky.

[xerne.livejournal.com]

A natural multiple is someone who is born multiple, or came to that state through non-trauma (and I think usually non-splitting) means.

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

We'd love to hear how you're functional. Please tell us of this be-all end-all (and often quite arbitrary) standard of functionality. Coz I ain't met noone who calls themself functional (multi OR not) who wasn't full of it, and looking to thumb their nose at someone.

You seem quite willing to thumb your nose at everyone regardless of your functional/non-functional status. And that's fine. You're entitled to your opinions. And we're entitled to ours.

Yep, I did it! So?

[leathersammie.livejournal.com]

Since I was the one who posted the link to Healthy Place and the trigger warning, I will respond to that point.

There was a non-multiple who came into the group asking if we were all some new evolution of humanity. He asked if we were perhaps the new "way showers." Since he obviously had no idea (by his own admission) what being a multiple was all about, and had "just learned about it" (also by his own admission), I felt that to be fair to him, giving him just a bit of other information might help him in his search for knowledge.

Since the information and cache of articles on Healthy Place is so extensive, I chose to post two pertinent points, and link him to more information, should he care to learn more. Certainly, Healthy Place is not the be-all and end-all of the vast amounts of information out there and certainly can not substitute for real-life experience.

Although YOU may not have any trigger problems, some certainly do, and out of fairness to them, I posted a warning.

You seem very hostile that some people may have an interest in helping others learn more about the lives we lead as multiples. I wonder why?

The lives *we* lead...?

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

I think what we're snagging on is the concept that what is true for some multiples (trauma, splitting, etc.) is true for all.

[pengke.livejournal.com]

Their ego?

How about your ego for presuming that all of this is about poor little you? Why go through the trouble of pointing out how nothing they were complaining about applied to you? Shouldn't you have realized that if it doesn't apply to you then you weren't the poster that they were complaining about with that example? You're hardly the only person that's posted to this community.