Unwanted?

[wingedwolf-2004.livejournal.com]

Hello all,

I have had something weird happen to me today. Firstly, there are 6 members of this system all together. We have had others come and go, but not for a few years. Today I was just on the internet and I felt an enormous feeling come over me, and then was introducing myself as 'Kisuke' to someone online.

Ever since, this Kisuke has been overpowering me, offending people I love and making me feel uneasy. I don't want him here, and want him gone, he is hurting me. Does anyone know how to deal with this kind of thing?

~ Sam

Comments

[phen0type.livejournal.com]

Are you able to speak to Kisuke, and ask him politely to leave so that he does not offend others? I think that it would also be a good idea to ask Kisuke why he is acting that way. I think that most people can be reasonable if you approach them politely.

Richard
Fen Group

[wingedwolf-2004.livejournal.com]

He seems to be out of reach, except when he wants to be near the front. Hes made sexual advances on my brother, Toby, which I'm very uncomfortable with, especially as Toby is only 12 (currently). He seems like not a nice person, but next time hes around I'll have a word. Last night I was asleep when he came in.

Sam

[forever-alone.livejournal.com]

No offense, but it's a bit selfish and tactless to just say "I don't want you here" to someone. There's a reason he's acting the way he is, like Richard said above, and until you find out what the reason is the situation probably isn't going to resolve itself. If you've done that and he's still acting this way, maybe you need to get help from the others in your system, or get someone outside to try to act as a mediator.

[wingedwolf-2004.livejournal.com]

Firstly, love to your icon :3

And I wouldn't be as annoyed and upset about him, but to the fact hes attacked one of my system members, and tried to rape another. He seems intent on hurting this system.

I have a friend who says she is willing to speak with Kisuke. Thanks for the advice!

[forever-alone.livejournal.com]

Well, that's certainly shitty behavior. Someone who goes that far, in my opinion, gives up their privilege of fair treatment. I still wouldn't advise attempting to kick him out, but being forceful with him is probably necessary at this point if he won't listen. That sort of shit doesn't fly with any of us in here, especially attempted rape. Sorry we can't be more helpful, dealing with this kind of stuff isn't our strong point.
-V&C

[redrainstorm.livejournal.com]

I agree that you need to communicate to Kisuke. Ask him why he wants to hurt you. Ask him why he presents such an overwhelming and powerful feeling. Why is he offending people and trying to push them away? Talk to him. Let him have a voice. He has every right to be there as anyone else. Maybe the system can help him find a more productive way of expressing himself instead of trying to evict him.

~Jessiah

[wingedwolf-2004.livejournal.com]

He doesn't seem to want to talk, and offends and upsets everyone woth everthing he says. Although, I have a friend who said she is willling to speak to him later. And yes, we will all speak to him as well. Thanks for the advice :)

[lion-azure.livejournal.com]

I agree with the above comments on that you should try and communicate with him. Find out who he is, what he wants, and why he is the way he is. And most of all, find out if there are methods to bring him to cooperate with you and the rest of your system.

And now I'm going to be the voice of dissent and say that if all of this fails, you do have the right to evict him from your system by whatever means necessary, ban him from fronting, incarcerate him, whatever it takes to keep your system, and your life, running smoothly.
Might be that our system just has a different approach to things, but we see ourselves as a sort of miniature nation, and like every society, we have rules, and ways to enforce those rules if they are broken.

- Draco

[wingedwolf-2004.livejournal.com]

I love your icon beyond words :3

And thankyou! Although, I would feel selfish trying to ban him. And its not just fronting, he causes trouble in here, and has only fronted once so far. When he does, he just continues smiling in a wide grin and offends people.

And there are only 6 in here, and we are having a hard time coping, especially as 2 of us are children :/ Alex is looking for him at the moment though.

Thanks for the advice!

[lion-azure.livejournal.com]

You're welcome.

We're not a big system, either - we fluctuate between 8 and 9 members (two of them merge quite often). One of us is currently "jailed", because the majority of people here agree that in his current state, he's a danger to our system's stability. The host and me set up a separate little world for him where he can do whatever he feels like without endangering the rest of us, and our "law enforcement" has made it clear to him that if he should ever front and get us into trouble, he'll never come out of there again, or worse.

- Draco

[katullus.livejournal.com]

Good to see something like that works with some systems. Not for us. We're a small system, right between the two of you- seven members. Why is it that the little systems are the ones most plagued by troublemakers?

Anyway, the only one of us that actually has enough power to overpower me when I'm fronting is Felinus, even though she's only done that a few times. When she takes over without my permission, I lose memory, blank out, and usually come back to find that something markedly negative has taken place. She'll also do things when I'm not paying attention, drifting, or in between asleep and awake. She hides things from me and won't tell me where they are unless I make deals with her. It gets to be a colossal pain in the arse. And I can't do a thing with her, because of the simple and terrible nature of this truth- anything I can do to her, she can do right back to me. We're equal in power and therefore cancel each other out. If I could kill her, she could kill me, so it's a damn good thing neither of us can do that.