[identity profile] linnai.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Hmm. Bit of a controversial question perhaps.

What does anyone know about integration? NOT the forced "everyone needs to be one" sort of integration but spontaneous, natural integration and also temporary intregration or anything of the like.

(While I have heard that most integration is non-permanent anyhow, this isn't quite what I mean but having a hard time figuring out how to communicate the thought better, forgive me)

Date: 2005-11-14 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calliopeaurora.livejournal.com
I'm stuck alone out front at the moment. I've been stressed lately and everyone else seems to have *disappeared*. This has happened before but its still disconcerting.

My T is a believer of everyone communicating to be healthy while his partner is a believer of integration at will, meaning he *teaches* how to control others. I don't know much about it but it doesn't sound fun to be controlled and lose my opinion.

Date: 2005-11-14 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadedmosaic.livejournal.com
Just my humble opinion . Please what do you mean when you say *teaches * like the T will teach you? I would be cautious after what I know now about allowing a T to * guide* me ir * teach * me how to all get together . Just keep communicating and dont allow anyone to have control over you . Tnx Blessings Elaine ( Teens our the World)

Date: 2005-11-14 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calliopeaurora.livejournal.com
These Therapists I speak of are work-place trauma therapists and often discover peoples multiplicity after inconsistencies and other things that are mentioned.
By teaches I don't mean tells/controls, they guide and quite often are more like a sounding board and someone to calm down a person if they become distressed. They encourage no-dependency on themselves and as I didn't mention before and probably should have, they teach/encourage self-soothing and self-support. No progress is started until a person is able to want to do it for themselves and is strong enough. (I'm not sure strong is the word I'm after)
Teaches was a poor word to explain controlling others as I mean it to be that he teaches EQ (emotional intelligence) and as most multiples that he sees are trauma-based, he speaks of how to know what is appropriate and how to communicate so the more strong-willed persons don't bull-doze the situation or other people.
Quite often these multiples have survived to this point on their own and only need fine-tweaking in communication and co-consciousness and not rejecting their others (my word for my people).
Sorry if I was a little unclear, I'm a little frazzled at the moment.
Sora

Date: 2005-11-14 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadedmosaic.livejournal.com
Hi, just one more thing to be very careful of . I have heard of centers or units that are trauma based for multiples that work with multiples in whats caled re- birthing , when you said self- soothing it sounded eerily familiar . there is a popular center that runs in Vermont and one in Carolina for multiple units onlt to encourage Integration . They say it is not Dr assisted because you admitt yourself to facilitae Integration

Just be careful . If the goal is integration I will say again all ( every single fiber of everyone of you have to really want it) or it will not work for long and mess up communication till things get back to normal or whatever your normal is as everyones is differnt.
Thx Elaine, House of Mosaic Gang

Date: 2005-11-14 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calliopeaurora.livejournal.com
I personally have no intention of integration and have been a healthy and somewhat co-operative multiple (although trauma-based) for a few years (some of which I was unaware of multiplicity for).

From what I know of re-birthing, self-soothing is very different. However, I am not sure we are talking about the same self-soothing here. Self-soothing in the context I have used it means to soothe oneself (or many) through means of the skills within ourselves and the things we know will calm us. Say if one of your group was distressed by something and you knew that their favourite stuffed toy always made them smile and cheer them up it would be helping them to get the toy and use it to calm them. It works with favourite smells and memories as well. Sometimes it's not a simple as I've explained though.

I also think that America and Australia are two very different health systems as multiplicity isn't well known and considered (although not true) very rare and is only heard of if it is in an ill-representing movie.

Sora

Date: 2005-11-15 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebirthing
(this, of course, is nothing like traditional rebirthing ceremonies, which are largely initiatory in character)

Date: 2005-11-14 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Doesn't sound like fun to me, either. Operating system changes or maintenance as voluntary coping strategies is one thing. Picking out one person in the group and teaching them how to control the others sounds nonproductive to say the least.

You have my sympathies. If I had a nickel for every time I was stuck alone out front...

Date: 2005-11-14 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kasiya-system.livejournal.com
we're mad here too! lol

Date: 2005-11-14 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calliopeaurora.livejournal.com
I love your icon! lol
So mad!

Date: 2005-11-14 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
*adores your icon*

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