Co-consciousness and Blurring Ponderings

[jaga-system-.livejournal.com]

Reading about the discussions on co-consciousness, it sparked a reminder of some thoughts I've pondered about from time to time. I'm not even sure I can accurately describe them, but I will do my best. I suppose it might be philosophical or just "deep," where my brain can't fully wrap around it. Sort of like, how and why is it possible? Of course I mainly accept it just is what it is, but has anyone delved further into how in the heck it is possible that co-consciousness and blurring can happen? Sometimes we go there and it is just...hmmm.... no words can quite describe the feelings as I/we try to grasp ahold of the deeper hows and whys, etc. I guess I'm wondering on a scientific basis, spiritual basis, or well, from any sort of frame of reference. The mind and body are so intriguing.



I'm not even sure I'm expressing myself fully at what I'm trying to get at. I'm trying to conjure up a way to phrase things with specific questions or more explicit expressions of thoughts.

We have co-consciousness and blurring from time to time; It happens. But I wonder how it can be possible. It isn't that I disbelieve it, but it is like something happens and I experience it, but how and why is it the way it is? Are we sharing a body's brain space? In a way, too, it is as though we are our own individual minds and bodies, but we've been sort of squeezed next to one another or front/behind one another in this clothing and appearance of one body when we are fronting. Sort of like when 2 people step inside a large piece of clothing and walk around together and the appearance is as though it is one person, but yet it isn't. And of course it isn't limited to 2 people. But then I think well, what if we are sharing a body's brain space? So how is that happening? What is it like in the brain? And when blurring happens, it is really bizarre to think about the hows and whys. This is when the idea of sharing brain space seems more likely to be what is happening, but how does it happen? What are the mechanics behind it? Aacck! I'm trying to reach ahold of a concept and question that I don't feel I'm expressing with the right words and what I'm getting at. I suppose I am to some extent, but there feels like there is something else there that I'm reaching for to express or explain and it is just beyond my grasp. I so hate that.

Anyway, I've probably reiterated the same thing a bunch of different ways. Hopefully I've made a little bit of sense with what I'm trying to get at.

Julie

Comments

[stealthdragon.livejournal.com]

The mind seems to be an emergent property of the various electrical and chemical processes in the brain - no one knows even how singletons work yet. Let's consider a mind to be a pattern within the brain processes. If you've got more than one of them in any given brain, there'll likely be times when one or two are ascendant (most active, whatever), and times when the active patterns mesh so closely that it's difficult or impossible to separate one from the others.

Is that the sort of theory you were looking for?

[jaga-system-.livejournal.com]

Oooohhh yahhh... I can really see that.

Sort of like the things you learn, memories, beliefs (?), etc. are mapped in the brain through electrical and chemical processes.

I can see that multiples have individual minds of electrical and chemical process patterns mapped within the brain that are individualistic to each person in the system. It does make sense what you said about the times several are more active (i.e. fronting) and when they mesh so close together (blurring, very close co-consciousness, etc.).

I certainly do not want to generalize any of this for anyone, as I can see that people may have other perspectives or experiences. It does seem to me to be a possibility as to how and why co-consciousness and blurring can occur, etc. At the same time, I'm still very open to theories. I do like this one though as it does seem plausible. :-)I forgot all about the synapses, neurotransmitters, electromagnetic fields, etc. Thanks for sharing a theory!

Hmmm...getting additional feedback from others in here. I suppose for walk-ins and otherkin that it might be more like a spiritual or other dimension experience, or perhaps just somehow linking up through electrical and spiritual fields that creates a co-consciousness or blurring from time to time. I received a picture with that thought and understanding. I envisioned two bodies or two presences and they share this physical outer body and their separate physical minds with their own individual electrical and spiritual fields sort of connect and link up and perhaps map together with the body's brain which allows for information sharing... sort of telepathically or ability to communicate with one another. Of course this isn't limited to just two linking up and communicating. I guess what I mean is sort of like two or more people or presences and the body's brain is this one central location where messages can be sent from a separate person/presence (separate body with brain) to the body's brain via electrical or spiritual or some kind of manner. These electrical, spiritual, whatever it is then links up with the electrical and chemical processes of the body's brain and then others doing the same thing simultaneously end up with co-conscious communication or blurring.

Goodness, I don't know. I have noooooo idea how it works. Just some thoughts and possibilities.

It almost seems easier to not even think about how it works and why we have these experiences and how we are here in this body, etc.

It is good food for thought though I guess...or some of us enjoy analyzing and theorizing and wondering and figuring out. :-)

Thanks,
Julies

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

We always thought of ourselves as sharing the brain just as we share the earth body. Blurring could be like adjacent channel interference on the AM radio. You're listening to one station and you start hearing another station in the backgroun, sometimes loud enough to drown the first station out. This is causded by either atmospheric conditions or the second station has boosted its signal for late night broadcasting. DX radio listeners know about this. (Stay up real late listening to AM radio, try to hear Chicago when you're in Lexington, that sort of thing)

[jaga-system-.livejournal.com]

I like that analogy. :-) It makes a lot of sense too. :-)

I'm not sure I'm going to say what I mean clearly as I have to go and can't fully gather my thoughts and still want to respond to this before I do get offline till tomorrow sometime.

Anyway... I think the part that I'm stuck on (and also can't find a word I'm looking for) is this. In our world, system, etc. we see each other with a physical body and appearance different than that of the body's. So I guess I was getting stuck at how we go from that to sharing the brain, but then really, we should then wonder how it is we go about sharing the earth body. It just happens, we just can, and it just is what it is, and yet some of us wish we knew the mechanics, science, spiritual, whatever it is to make all of this possible. Maybe somewhere deep down we know or someone in this system knows or maybe we will never know exactly, and it is probably different for each multiple.

I think what we are trying to get at is something beyond how our system goes about leaving our inner world and coming out front and sharing the earth body. It is my understanding that the experience and processes of that are different (more or less) for each multiple. I.E. the gatekeeper concept, the watching someone on stage, and many others I can't think of right now. We're musing over how it is even possible, either biologically or spiritually or anything, that we can even do this and what the more baseline mechanics are behind the experience.

We're going to have to do some more thinking on this.

Thanks,
Julie/s

[jaga-system-.livejournal.com]

I had to tell you that this analogy was being talked about and one of the main kids kept giggling every time she thought about it. She kept imagining the body's brain as the radio player and everyone having little antennas sticking up out of their brain with their own individual frequency (radio station), and then the brain or frequencies moving the radio station dial to tune in to one person or more or just with each other. Needless to say, she LOVES your analogy, and thinks it is "SOoooo COOOOOLLll!" :-D

Julie

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Thank her for me, and tell her to keep listening!

We are KSOL, AM 1460.

[jaga-system-.livejournal.com]

I did... well actually she read it with me because she's almost always aware and watching the outside world, amongst many other things about her and how she is in our system. She's so adorable and cute and awesome! I love her!

ANYWAY, I have to tell you that upon her reading this, she grinned really big at the idea that you wrote to her. And she loved your picture smiling back at her. :-) Then, she came outfront and got up out of our chair and immediately went to turn on our alarm clock radio and tried to locate the AM channel of 1460. LOLOL. She was disappointed at first because we couldn't get a clear channel from where we live, but then she thought it was funny because at least 2 or 3 nearby radio stations were all coming through on AM 1460 and it was the adjacent channel interference you had talked about! LOL. Anyway, I tried to explain to her that you didn't operate a live AM 1460 station and even if you did, it wasn't likely that it would be on the same channel for us where we lived, etc. She thinks you will tell me something else and correct me , so I await your answer.... teehee

Julie

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Tell her she'll have to come to Laura -- or at least, the middle world, between Earth and Laura -- to hear KSOL. (or WMRC 1400, where I sometimes am on in the mornings).

We've worked at a couple of earth-world community stations. If she wants to know what those are like, she can listen to
http://129.79.21.137:9198/wfhb_live_hi.m3u WFHB or WDBX at http://wdbx.scientistsuperstar.com:8000/ which is very close to what we did. (or http://www.weft.org/ WEFT, but they have no audio stream).

HIN2, where Ekristheh works (it's actually 2EOH, Ni Ekrisi Oruoi Halathim) is kind of a cross between KPFA http://www.kpfa.org/ and CBC. HIN1 is really more like CBC.

She can also get a feel for what a lot of our regional radio transmissions are like by listening to shortwave.