there talkin Snow

[jadedmosaic.livejournal.com]

 Yep its Rochester , there talkin snow tonight a perfect end to a perfect day. hey all Shelby here . Hi

 

We spent the whole night and day arguing with Elaine as usual about her wanting to be a free bird and fly West  to go to School , only to come home to a freezing House  and a prediction of Snow .  We sent the brat to her room . She is driving all of us nuts talking about living somewhere else .We dont want to make the cardinal mistake and say " If you dont like the rules here you could leave" Cause this kid she will. She would leave without blinking a eye .

 

Tiea is real sick still and it turns out I fought with Elaine all day. She kept Punching me in the gut to ,move to  the side , Knocking the wind out of me and taking my time to prove her point . It proved she does not do it well.  Shes 16 going on 30 I swear .  Now she can prove it in her room . With no visits from the other teens . I swear there is always one . She gets all the teens rieled up all the time with HER civil rights and living in a fake democrocy . Right now I have a huge hedache and am feeling Tiea's fever and aches . Its going to take a week or so to get this med out of our system and I think worse getting off it .

Thank God it was Monday . Too busy for the T to get on our nerves . We see him tomorrow  Elaine hitchhicked a ride to work with us , where she did not belong . If the t finds out he'll go balistic . It was so much easier when she was 7 years old .

I do understand her but we cannot just pick up and move . We told her we would take her to see some campuses for a two year program .

She is the most seperate person from us all . She has never got the concept she lives in a body with others . This is because she sees us all differnt on the inside . Sorry if she is trying to start a commotion with others system teens . She is a born leader and she tends to inspire others in her mischief .  I wish we could let her do what she wants . Speaking of bodies my body is killing me . We cant believe there calling for snow already .With Elaine if were not careful we could end up on a plane or a train or a bus . Sorry she s been ranting online . She tried to delete it but we found it she was up all night last night and she does not get how that effects us.  Long Day . Hope you all had a good one

 Peace to you all,  well its dinner time  Catch ya all later Sorry about Elaine  Peace Shelby

Comments

[melange-fiesta.livejournal.com]

She has never got the concept she lives in a body with others.

She had a pretty thought-out answer to the university dilemma; all the same, though, she made it crystal clear that she does not care what the adults want, and if she can't have everything she wants right now, she will continue to create upheaval in the hopes of getting it.

[eridanusus.livejournal.com]

Wow, I think Tian wrote more to her last night than she ever did to Steph. EVER. I'm sort of not surprised those two got talking. At least here we have the flexibility to let different people choose different courses and things.

[melange-fiesta.livejournal.com]

But that's the thing. The 16-year-old doesn't want to do the degree online. She wants to physically move to a different state (I think it's a different state) and have the whole university experience -- and seems to want to do all this on her own, which is, of course, impossible.

thanks for talking to her

[jadedmosaic.livejournal.com]

Hi ,

Thanks so much for talking some sense to her. She tends to get a complex like we all think she is bad. This is not it at all . Also we do not see her as just as babysitter

We are sorry about what happened with My botfriend. This is when her problems started . Tiea and I were seeing a singlet who without us catching on would wait till we fell a sleep and call on the younger girls to come to him . We had to break up with him cause he did not get that these were seperate kids he was sexualizing .

She's taken allot of her anger out on us for not protecting her .

Back to College Jade and I are looking into online courses for Holistic Medicine with My credits applied , if this is what she really wants .

I understand her wanting the College experience , without us adults . We love Elaine but she is a study in frustration to us ...It always goes back to " You let that pervert do things to me " We would let her talk to the T but we are thinking of getting a new T so now isnt a good time for her to flip out on us again, all we can say is " were so sorry we did not protect you and break up with him right away ".

Thnaks for making her see reality a little .. Oh were sure she is plotting her next get away. She has a strong spirit . For now she isnt speaking to us . The air is thick here . But were just being adults."Tough Love" I guess ,Peace Shelby & Jade

Re: thanks for talking to her

[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

> She's taken allot of her anger out on us for not protecting her .

We decided to let all the kids know they could choose one or more adults in our group to call on to handle any situation where they felt overwhelmed or frightened. We have "practiced" with the kids and encouraged them so they feel comfortable calling up their protectors.

The past doesn't change. We have a say in the future.

Your right for Elaine too

[jadedmosaic.livejournal.com]

Hi This is Shelby ,

I guess we noticed she did make a friend in Tian . Meeting anyone that is living out her dream she would want to talk to her . Knowing Elaine once she has acssess to the computer again she'll be trying to get in touch with everyone she met last night .

I'm glad your family member Tian could go to College but we havent figured out how to work that out yet. She would want to have body time to go to School which would be fine but she wants to go all the way to California .

We talked to her tonight and feel bad for her, she geneuinly never gets, where she goes, the body eventually will have to go.

I could see the need for her to have other teens in similar situations, to talk too though . We just cant pick up and move to California . When one of the teens gets upset, its hard on all of us . We dont want to see her get merged or fused either , her individuality is what makes her so special, too all of us . But she does tend to get us in trouble allot. She takes advantage of times Tiea or the main fronters are not doing well. For tonight she is in her room till she learns not to interfere with The Job and driving yet . We hope Tian will understand . If we do not ground her from the computer she 'll never learn . We did talk to her about her having her own journal or starting a Community but she is being stubborn . Who is Steph? Someone in your group ? or another ?

Hows the weather in New Zealand? Peace Shelby and Jade. Elaine talked more to Tian than she does us !

Re: Your right for Elaine too

[spookshow-girl.livejournal.com]

Knowing Elaine once she has acssess to the computer again she'll be trying to get in touch with everyone she met last night .

Fair enough, why shouldn't she?

--Me

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Ruka goes through periods of dropping hints about wanting to just get up and leave-- take a road trip, or start looking for a home somewhere else, give up our degree and pursue an entirely different career path. He's something of a free spirit who doesn't like to be restrained; he's never gotten along well with school. We're at a compromise for now, but he gets twitchy. He doesn't like living in urban areas. The compromise currently takes the form of him being able to have long car drives, trips to national parks, etc., when it's practical and affordable. Maybe you should try to work out a compromise with her, where she could take classes at a nearby community college or something, work towards an associate's degree if you don't have one already, or a brief road trip everyone agrees on.

[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

We struggle with where we live sometimes too. We're right now doing the 'burb thing - career choices make that or urban living necessary. The current consensus/plan is that we plan sometime in the vague future to live somewhere rural - mostly retirement daydreams at this point but it is something we've agreed on. Regular trips to favorite parks help.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

She didn't offend me or stir me up. Very few things stir me up. I think she makes a lot of sense and IMNSHO you all could get a cooperation going so you all could get consensus. What's fake about having a democracy in a plural group? We do it all the time.

Elaine:

[spookshow-girl.livejournal.com]

*shrugs* She needs to rant somewhere, right?

What Elaine is describing seems to be more than just about moving. She mentioned wanting her own friends, for example. It's important for a person to be able to follow their dreams. Obviously noone get's to make all of them a reality. Is there any way you guys can come to a compromise?

She wants to go to school in California. I understand you don't feel that's feasible, and that's reasonable. It's not reasonable however, to expect it to not hurt her. It's not reasonable to expect her to not be upset.

Imagine, at age 16, being told you could not go to the college you wanted to. Living in a body with other people doesn't dampen the blow any.

--Me

Re: Elaine:

[jaga-system-.livejournal.com]

Yah I totally agree.

Billie

[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

Let her talk and rant. It helps her blow off steam - being a teen is rough enough, being a teen who feels she's being treated like a little kid is maddening. Looking into things that interest her, allowing her to chat with some 'net friends, and giving her some responsibility (not just chores) would help her feel more valued.

from our Rose: Elaine sounds strong in your group - trying to fight with her makes your body ill and exhausts you. Acknowledge her strengths, let her know you value her contributions and accomplishments, and you can build a relationship where you aren't at odds with one another.