Randomness @_@

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

1. Just assume for a moment that we knew someone who was able to control our switches at will. They are trusted, and they say it's for a good cause, but if anyone gets out of line, they want to be able to have control. What would you do? >< Mind that you love them, trust them, know they're a good person, know they'd never hurt you, know they want to help and be supportive, but just can't get over the fact that they have that ability..

2. Re the anime DVDs, our relocation is on schedule and soon after we arrive in Boston we'll be able to send copies out. ^^ (link to the previous post) Apologies for not being here more, it's been crazy.

3. We're trying to think of an actual name for our sys but have no idea where to start. The name would be a legal name and should not be a name that any of us specifically has. It should be more than "just another name", but at the same time it'd be the cloak-name to use in work situations, so it can't be too weird.

4. How do you deal with a pretty mutual resentment and fear of externals, singlets in particular? Everyone who says they understand seems to lie. It's been getting pretty bad, to the point that we wonder if we should even worry about others, even though at least half of us are pretty social and would suffer.

5. Any opinions on the movie Serenity? It was pretty triggery for me, although I loved the whole "Am I talking to Miranda?" joke. :P Yay for making fun of things that deserve to be made fun of.

6. Not the best publicity, but I (and thus all of us, in some small way) was in the news, though it's for something stupid. The fact that we are, well, we, ended up coming out, you can see if you scroll down, though the reaction predictably SUCKED. Still, thought you'd like to know.

7. Anyone in the Boston area?!?! :D

(Sorry for the monstrous post. ^^;)

Comments

[spazishness.livejournal.com]

We've pretty much accepted that no one REALLY understands what's going on 'inside'. We don't get along with many other people (other than ourselves) because of this. Probably not the best way to deal with it, but eh... o_o

We live in southern NH, about 30 minutes fron Boston. Yay, another multiple within New England. :D

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Haha, have to hook up with you then. :D

Do any of you think you're, you know, nuts? For being antisocial and all. That's the thing that bothers me is that if we started avoiding people maybe we're the crazy ones instead of everyone else being idiots.

[kasiya-system.livejournal.com]

I grew up in Braintree, Mass. But I'm in Germany now. -Suz

and this wasn't a big post at all, no worries.. -kas

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

If you're worried that a post is too long, lj-cut it.

1. Allowing another person to have control over us, for whatever reason, is something we do not permit. Been there, done that, ran the damn t-shirt up on a flagpole. We knew someone who claimed to be able to control others' switches. She couldn't control ours and we ended up having to pretend to switch just to please her.

3. Go to this website: http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/pregnancy/babynaming/1322436.html Pick your birth year and choose a name from the list for that year. Another good site is http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/babynames/ -- you can choose both year and area.

4. We do not trust most people in our daily (non-internet) life to know that we are plural. It is not good policy to let the whole world know details even if you tell them you're plural. Most people in daily life who know we are plural do not know we are from an alternative dimension. We keep it very simple. Most people who say they understand really only understand part of it, or still have the idea that "it's unhealthy to live as a bunch of split-up parts" (even after we tell them we're not) or do the "they're all you" number.

5. A lot of people seem to be excited about Serenity; we barely heard about it until a few people on our friends list mentioned it. Modern so-called science fiction dramas aren't our thing. (Ask us about >wuxia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxia), however.) The plot for Serenity seems to have a lot in common with Andromeda -- is it something like that?

6. You're right. That wasn't the best publicity in the world.

[pengke.livejournal.com]

Firefly is nothing like Andromeda.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Ah, okay. Guess I'll just have to see it.

[ash1977law.livejournal.com]

Yes. It feels like StarWars did before Lucas went crazy-mad.
Great characters, good plot & interesting storylines.

[screamingshiva.livejournal.com]

I LOVED THIS MOVIE! thought it was brilliant.... but then again... I'm a huge fan of Joss Whedon

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

I have a lot of faith that she could actually do that. She's something of a spiritual teacher to us and already did things and helped us do things that we didn't think were technically possible.

Thanks for the link. :)

And, uhm, isn't it sucky to have to go through life having nobody understand? ._.

Serenity is creepy. It's rather imaginitive for a sci-fi movie. As I put it, it would be a dream I'd have that I'd wake up and be stunned by. I'd tell someone and they'd say I was nuts and tell me to stop ranting and raving. Except someone made it into a movie. ^^; However, if it were a dream, it would have been a nightmare. That movie is intense. o.x Not what any of us needed.

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Oh, forgot to mention, yeah, the problem re #1 is that we're moving in with this person.. X.x

It sort of came up today, after everything's been finalized, that she was planning on doing that. BLEH.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

You mean she just now sprung this on you?

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Exactly. ^^;

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

To have that amount of control over you, she should have brought this up when she first suggested you move in with her. Goes to informed choice on your part.

Think about this: What does she think is out of line? Why does she think she might need to have control of your changes? Does she understand that this is something that is and should be you guys' own business?

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Now you're really making us curious to see it!

[eridanusus.livejournal.com]

We've been "out" for about two years now and we're finally getting to the point where everyone we hang out with accepts it. Actually some people probably don't realise, but it's fairly well public knowledge, except in the workplace. We've never told a co-worker or employer because it would be so complicated if they had a bad reaction. And yes, we have had bad reactions, and there are some of us, notably Tian, who don't like people knowing and don't like singlets (except one person who fed her cheesecake and watched Lilo and Stitch with her when she was 8), but it seems to be getting better. It's so much a personal choice though and we probably wouldn't have been as lucky living in, say, southern America or something.

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Having dealt with "coming out" in a variety of other ways, I feel like I just need to have the courage to do it. It's hard, though. It's like when I changed my name, I had to consciously stop responding to the old one or people would never learn.

There are, of course, pitfalls to being so insistent.

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Yes, outside the system. More info in a comment above. ^^;

The problem is I'm moving in with them.. x.x;

[violetkhirot.livejournal.com]

<relay> "If the person's a worthwhile spiritual mentor, they will respect a personal boundary. It sounds to me as though you would be laying yourselves open for, at best, some amount of unintentional damage by ceding that much control."

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

That does sound true.

The problem is basically not whether or not they'd do it but that they can.

It's like saying, would you be willing to hang around someone trained with firearms without being tense.

Okay, bad example, since my personal death would be nothing compared to that (though one wonders what host body everyone would use after this death).

[pleiades-rising.livejournal.com]

2. Yay! I'm looking forward to seeing it ^_^

4. We don't resent them. It's not that most of them seem to lie, just that they don't really understand. Even if you try to explain it to them, they've never experienced it themselves so they don't know how to act. Usually, what seems like "lying" is actually just "trying really hard to understand but failing", at least, in our experience.

5. Haven't seen Serenity, and wasn't planning to... but I might just go check it out now :P

6. You got Mac OS 7 running on a PSP? XD That is so awesome, in a crazy pointless sort of way...

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

2. uh, yay :D

4. We've only run into skeptics. It sucks. ~.~ It'd be just like a singlet walking up to the 5-year-old sister of a friend of theirs (let's suppose their friend is 45 and male) and saying "I KNOW YOU ARE BILL. TURN BACK INTO BILL." Uh.. that's not trying. -.-;;

5. The entire movie centers around a girl who is a paranoid schizophrenic with some sort of dissociative switching, with strides being taken to prove that she's a person too, blah blah. She's cute anyhow, who cares about the details.. ^^;

6. *giggles* Yep yep, I did. ^^; Could have gotten 8 or 9 running but the guy who made the emulator that can run those is a JERK. Ugh. ~.~ He said that since I was not approching him with a business proposition he wouldn't provide me with documentation. Oi. >< As to the point of it, well, the PSP is a computer, and I use computers for emulation.. I shouldn't have to give up doing something I may want to do. :o

Forgot to say that I luvs that LJ icon. :o

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Man, that must have been some bad summary I was reading. Said she was an "emotionally unstable telepath". Okay, I'm starting to see why you asked.

Gabe mumbles something about stories of telepaths who inadvertently experience identity merges with the people they contact, but he's mostly asleep.

[pengke.livejournal.com]

Stick with the summary you read. River is an emotionally unstable telepath. She's a bit nuts because of the stuff in her head and from the things the government poked around with to make her psychic. She also gets violent on occassion but there's usually a good reason even if the people around her aren't aware of what that reason is. She isn't schizophrenic or dissociative. The seeing her as a person line is because she was trained to be a weapon that could be triggered through subliminal messaging. Mal rescued her even though he was running the risk of her killing his crew because he believed in her as a person. There's a lot about belief in Serenity.

[fadingtogrey.livejournal.com]

I agree with pengke about River. There was even a breif exchange of dialogue in the movie that poked fun at the idea that she was harboring a secret, destructive identity. It was almost like Mr. Wheadon was saying, "Don't worry, I'm not going to use that tired old plot device."

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Yeah, as mentioned in my original post. ^^;

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Dissociative. Dissociating from one's current identity or reality..

I'd say she does that? o.o

The reason it was triggery for me was because there are a few people, from friends to aquaintances to doctors, from all walks of life, who are trying to convince me that I was some sort of SRA victim, where states of paranoia+delusion+dissociation are intentionally brought on to screw things up.

I was never quite sure what to think of all of that but I dismissed it as nonsense. Still, whenever I read about that sort of stuff, it *Scared* me, and the movie scared me.

So, yeah. o.x I guess it was how I saw it, sorry.

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Nyo, emotionally unstable telepath works too. It's the cursed doctors getting to me, sorry. x.x; Too used to labelling things with that sort of.. crap. -.-

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

It's hard to get rid of psychoanalytical jargon.

Well, I think I'll wait till it comes out on video, but it sounds like it's worth a viewing.

[vinik.livejournal.com]

Will do our best to give our two cents:

1. Letting someone else have 'emergency switch authority' is a privilege and not a right. They need to know that and so do you. If you are antsy about it, you need to talk to this person and let them know that you're really uneasy about this. Only a couple of outside people we know have that ability, and that's only because we granted that and they've never abused it. Only in cases of extreme panic without resolution are they allowed to even go there, and for a long time that has never even been an issue so I suppose that's pretty good news about where we're at in means of our anxiety problems.

4. We find it's a pick and choose kind of deal when it comes to who we tell and what we tell. The further we get in life, the easier we find it is getting to tell who you can trust and who you can't. And some people, of course, will never understand, but if they love and respect you anyway then that's the best they can do. We made the mistake for a long time of expecting too much from people who just can't wrap their heads around certain notions, and if they didn't fit that blown-up expectation they were jerks. As long as no one is mean or cruel to you because of it, they don't deserve exclusion from your life if you have chosen to disclose to them.

7. Sorry. We're in Toronto, but someday we might visit Mass. if one of our friends keeps plugging it the way he does. ;)

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Wonderful advice all around..

Thank you. :)

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Just assume for a moment that we knew someone who was able to control our switches at will. They are trusted, and they say it's for a good cause, but if anyone gets out of line, they want to be able to have control. What would you do? >< Mind that you love them, trust them, know they're a good person, know they'd never hurt you, know they want to help and be supportive, but just can't get over the fact that they have that ability..

Personally? Try to find a way to counter it. I would not suffer myself to let anyone have such a power over me, even were they to wield it with the best of intentions.

[ex-nanonyan.livejournal.com]

Agreed..

It's scary though. We start to get paranoid. Goes into that whole fearing others thing. Everyone's tried to control us!

Like, you know, when they locked us up in the maximum security room in the psych ward, the one where you had to beg to use the bathroom and had to remain supervised and restrained while you did? Pumped us up with all sorts of drugs..

Sucked. Twas a nightmare. As a result, the system was dead and shattered for two years or something. It's not dead anymore, but we're still shattered, that's for sure.

All to "make us better".. -.-

Sorry. Tis late.

[littlebus.livejournal.com]

1. Just assume for a moment that we knew someone who was able to control our switches at will.

I know things that trigger both Ash and Annabelle to come up (songs one of them particuarly enjoys, a topic of conversation, certain sensations of the body, ect.). I can use these to my advantage if I want to speak to one versus the other.

But I also know they could do things to stop it (turn off the music, change the topic, move my hand away, ect.) if they wanted to. It's not an on/off switch (nor an ash/annabelle switch *grin*). It's not an exact science, nor would I want it to be.

Yes, I know I could just say "Hon, I need to talk to _____ about _____." And sometimes I *do* do it that way. But then again, the both of them get along as a general rule and neither would cause me physical harm.

[changelyng14.livejournal.com]

1.
it sounds very sketchy, and I wouldn't neccessarily believe it. It reminds me of a horror story from the most functional system i know irl. their ex apparently figured out their thing, and apparently figured out how to 'hypnotically suggest' stuff, as well as to work them against each other. among other things, was able to cause them to think they walked out of a courtroom with a restraining order, only to discover later that they actually cancelled the application progress.

also, just because you love someone, and trust them, and beleive they are a good person, doesn't mean they are, and its mature and responsible of your to maintain your personal boundaries. and if this person IS trustworthy etc, they will respect those boundaries, period. but they can't easily respect a boundary that you don't set. personally, i'd be wary of giving permission to do that, especially if your systems communication is shakey at all.

4.
we're pretty sure that you can't really understand being a multiple unless you've been/are one. someone can try, and thats appreciated. and some can get rather close. we appreciate it when people try. we don't understand what its like to be short, nor to be epilectic, nor to be a chipmunk, and we likely never will. understanding is good as far as it is possible, but respect is what its about imo.

7. nope.
Anyone in the Seattle area? :D


-Tia

[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

1. It is your system, you can change it so she no longer has access. We had someone when we were young who could call several of us out. It was not a happy thing. We've since changed things so that if someone is called out they bring one of our adults with them.

A teacher who takes power -from- you is not a teacher.

4. We don't usually talk about being plural to singletons. We do politely correct people when they say things implying all multiples are nuts and have fractured memory access.

5. Love the series, enjoyed the movie. We find River's ptsd moments to be pretty triggery. The Miranda joke in the movie cracked us up - esp the conversation with Mal right after about how there's several Mals. ;)