Mooooooore skeptism

[withfangs.livejournal.com]

Please bear with me. My boy, Max, posted here a while ago, in regards to me, and he's trying to push me more into having conversations with others about my own doubts with multiplicity.

When I was young, I began studying other religions, and I really became interested in spirituallity. Along the way, I discovered two others living within. Really, this is just background information, so no know thinks I'm trying to troll or rag on the community. I've been aware of my own multiplicity for a number of years. I also see my multiplicity as a means to my own personal spirituallity. That is, I don't have a set religion, but I see the presence of and communication with my system as being a self-enlightening, holy experience.

I see this huge resurgance of multiples on the internet, and it makes me skeptical. NOT, because of the fact that their multiples. I wouldn't call someone out on being a "fake". But, the way some of these systems carry on, it makes me wonder how they can reasonably function.

I'm going to point the finger at soulbonding, because it seems to be the means of multiplicity that houses the greatest number of loonies. I can accept, per se, that another has entered your system, and is a bad influence, and perhaps is forcing your body and system down a bad path. I can not, however, accept that this entity causing harm is, say, Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy games. That, is insane. Final Fantasy is fiction. It may very well be an entity that projects images OF Sephiroth into your mind, but part of gaining some feasible aspect of functional control over yourselves, is seeing through the bullshit.

I have trouble with people who play INTO that bullshit, by extension. Not only do they seem to be the loudest group of loons, but they're also impossible to have a reasonable discussion with. Everything boils down to "it's different for everyone", which is great for upholding any kind of deluded fantasy that you might have, but really, isn't productive for conversation.

Especially...if you're attempting to learn something, or see if they have a reason to act the way that they do.

Are there any rational, sane soulbonds, here? If so, do they honestly believe that they're fictional characters? This seems to be the most levelheaded community about plurality on LJ that we can find, so I figure it would be the best place to start.

Comments

Re: I am hijacking D's journal.

[nematoddity.livejournal.com]

I think it's easy to get certain perceptions, when the loudest voices in any community are comprised of kids, just playing. They tend to drown out the more rational members, I think that's true.

I think you have to look at people and think is this behavior that is a fannish reaction caused by delusion/hormones/whatever, or is this a connection that the person could have made at any time of life.

I think that's a good distinction.

Re: I am hijacking D's journal.

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

Totally.
I was doing this about 4-5 years before I came across the soulbonding community, and at first I was quite pleased to find others, but over time I've just found that a lot of people are just playing, or do, through a combo of hormones and teen ideals, think they're genuine when they may not be. If it's a phase, they'll grow out of it. But I haven't.
Theres still time to, I mean I'm not that far out of my teens (I'm 21) but I've become stable in a lot of other areas of my life in the last 2-3 years, and the level of interaction between me and them hasn't changed.
Can I be quite blunt here and say that It's a bit depressing reading all the members of this com who're actually saying "OMG soulbonders bad"... I mean... I was a member of both coms (and soul_assemblage) for some time. I left this year because I beleive that I wasn't going to get any answers because every system is different. And thats why it's so important not to make such a generalisation, because everybody's going to have different experiences, based on their life in this world as well as what goes on inside. It's always going to be different. I came to the conclusion that whatever went on with me, it was going to go on, and I would be best dealing with it in my own way. But I think thats me veering off-topic now *nods*
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Re: I am hijacking D's journal.

[nematoddity.livejournal.com]

Can I be quite blunt here and say that It's a bit depressing reading all the members of this com who're actually saying "OMG soulbonders bad"...

Oh, sure. I can only speak for myself, but I know when I say similar statements, I'm speaking from a place of knowing only the fruitbasket contingent. This conversation has put me in touch with folks I would consider to be rational soulbonders--if that's the correct term, it's probably not--so I have to revise my thinking. Yet again. :)

I left this year because I beleive that I wasn't going to get any answers because every system is different. And thats why it's so important not to make such a generalisation, because everybody's going to have different experiences, based on their life in this world as well as what goes on inside. It's always going to be different.

Yeah, probably. Which is why folks like me have such a hard time--I'm already in a weird position of being the fronter without borders, because I really can't sense anyone else--save that I know I'm not alone (someone's awake back there, they're just not talking...), and that makes me nervous. And being the nervous little twitchy OCD sort I am, I want a tidy universe. I want explainable. I want understandable. I want things to make sense.

Even, or maybe especially, when they don't. :)

Re: I am hijacking D's journal.

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

:D Likewise, it's nice to talk to somebody who can think rationally. Especially considering the original post made me so very angry when I read it and made comments last night.
Thanks for that :)
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