Mooooooore skeptism
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multiplicity_archivesPlease bear with me. My boy, Max, posted here a while ago, in regards to me, and he's trying to push me more into having conversations with others about my own doubts with multiplicity.
When I was young, I began studying other religions, and I really became interested in spirituallity. Along the way, I discovered two others living within. Really, this is just background information, so no know thinks I'm trying to troll or rag on the community. I've been aware of my own multiplicity for a number of years. I also see my multiplicity as a means to my own personal spirituallity. That is, I don't have a set religion, but I see the presence of and communication with my system as being a self-enlightening, holy experience.
I see this huge resurgance of multiples on the internet, and it makes me skeptical. NOT, because of the fact that their multiples. I wouldn't call someone out on being a "fake". But, the way some of these systems carry on, it makes me wonder how they can reasonably function.
I'm going to point the finger at soulbonding, because it seems to be the means of multiplicity that houses the greatest number of loonies. I can accept, per se, that another has entered your system, and is a bad influence, and perhaps is forcing your body and system down a bad path. I can not, however, accept that this entity causing harm is, say, Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy games. That, is insane. Final Fantasy is fiction. It may very well be an entity that projects images OF Sephiroth into your mind, but part of gaining some feasible aspect of functional control over yourselves, is seeing through the bullshit.
I have trouble with people who play INTO that bullshit, by extension. Not only do they seem to be the loudest group of loons, but they're also impossible to have a reasonable discussion with. Everything boils down to "it's different for everyone", which is great for upholding any kind of deluded fantasy that you might have, but really, isn't productive for conversation.
Especially...if you're attempting to learn something, or see if they have a reason to act the way that they do.
Are there any rational, sane soulbonds, here? If so, do they honestly believe that they're fictional characters? This seems to be the most levelheaded community about plurality on LJ that we can find, so I figure it would be the best place to start.
When I was young, I began studying other religions, and I really became interested in spirituallity. Along the way, I discovered two others living within. Really, this is just background information, so no know thinks I'm trying to troll or rag on the community. I've been aware of my own multiplicity for a number of years. I also see my multiplicity as a means to my own personal spirituallity. That is, I don't have a set religion, but I see the presence of and communication with my system as being a self-enlightening, holy experience.
I see this huge resurgance of multiples on the internet, and it makes me skeptical. NOT, because of the fact that their multiples. I wouldn't call someone out on being a "fake". But, the way some of these systems carry on, it makes me wonder how they can reasonably function.
I'm going to point the finger at soulbonding, because it seems to be the means of multiplicity that houses the greatest number of loonies. I can accept, per se, that another has entered your system, and is a bad influence, and perhaps is forcing your body and system down a bad path. I can not, however, accept that this entity causing harm is, say, Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy games. That, is insane. Final Fantasy is fiction. It may very well be an entity that projects images OF Sephiroth into your mind, but part of gaining some feasible aspect of functional control over yourselves, is seeing through the bullshit.
I have trouble with people who play INTO that bullshit, by extension. Not only do they seem to be the loudest group of loons, but they're also impossible to have a reasonable discussion with. Everything boils down to "it's different for everyone", which is great for upholding any kind of deluded fantasy that you might have, but really, isn't productive for conversation.
Especially...if you're attempting to learn something, or see if they have a reason to act the way that they do.
Are there any rational, sane soulbonds, here? If so, do they honestly believe that they're fictional characters? This seems to be the most levelheaded community about plurality on LJ that we can find, so I figure it would be the best place to start.
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Date: 2005-08-10 08:49 am (UTC)SoulBonding however is a varied experience, so to say that SoulBonding *is* a type of construct situation is innacurate. It *can be* a type of construct situation.
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Date: 2005-08-10 11:48 am (UTC)Okay, let me step back for a moment and say this with as much delicacy and serenity as I can manage.
At this point in my development, I am a judgemental, mouthy bitch. It's not me insulting myself; it's just who I am. I have a bad experience, therefore anyone thereafter I meet who says they are whatever it was, is instantly lumped in with the first moron who pissed me off.
Now. I have struggled with this issue, and had and continue to have difficulties, especially with the crossover to the otherkin community, and let's just say I Have Issues on that score. Remember, negatively-centered judgemental bitch with a poking stick. I'm trying to be a better, more open-minded person, but right now I really do have a mind like a steel trap--concepts keep falling in and getting mangled.
Therefore, the one time I actually find a conceptualization that works for me, that allows me to back down from these sorts of conversations, and just get over everything at last...and you want to drag me back to figuring everything out step by step and condemning people?
Really? That's what you're saying? Because, honestly, I was very happy in my ignorance and had started to sit back and think nice, comforting "That's that, then" thoughts.
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Date: 2005-08-10 12:17 pm (UTC)Merely pointing out that many SBers and SBs will not fit that mould particularly well, because there are many other theories, all of which have the potential to be true. As long as you can accept that people may not be happy with you compartmentalising them in a way they disagree with, you're welcome to believe whatever you wish.
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Date: 2005-08-10 09:50 pm (UTC)The thing is, any further debate on this issue just puts me at odds with everyone else here, and frankly, did that a while back, tired of it now.
I'm sure there are many things I believe which would be offensive to people if I went along and pointed them out to every single one of them. I'm not proposing that I'm going to walk into
Sorry if you missed that.
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Date: 2005-08-11 06:35 am (UTC)Not charging into
No debate, believe me. Tired of it too. Wish entries like this would just stop appearing already.