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Apologies if I'm out of line here, but I just wanted to create an initial space for people to discuss policy, in an attempt to get debates moved off [livejournal.com profile] multiplicity and here into the place that's meant for it. There seem to be a lot of conversations happening on individual journals and it would be good to bring them together.

- Pyraxis

Date: 2011-01-31 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hushpiper.livejournal.com
I'm not entirely certain if there's a question here at all, but here's my take on it:

It may indeed be a good idea for moderators to know what's going on outside of the community, especially so that they can understand the situation when things spill over into the community.

However, a line does need to be drawn, in order to avoid making the moderators responsible for things they shouldn't be, and here's where I draw it: Things that take place in a community should be reported to the moderators of that community. Things that take place in personal journals or spread across LJ should be reported to LJ abuse. That's standard practice, I think.

There's also the possibility that more information on what's been happening outside the community will only bias the mods--however, that's mainly something for the mods themselves to watch out for.

Date: 2011-01-31 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myorp.livejournal.com
This is what we think.

Hopefully, the mods won't be carried away by supposed "proof" that isn't something they can directly verify themselves(which I would think would mostly leave them to things within the comm).

A large agregate tendency from outside the comm might be worthwhile, or it might be an extremely elaborate frame-up job(those things aren't that hard online). This is why I'd prefer if they mostly stuck to stuff within the community and left everything up to the LJabuse team.

~Kent
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Date: 2011-02-02 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerweave.livejournal.com
Not saying this is how you *should* have dealt with it or anything, but did you try going through LJ Abuse?

I am asking because if we as a community decide that certain things should be in the realm of mods and others in the realm of LJ Abuse, but LJ Abuse doesn't come up to speed, then leaving it to them isn't exactly a viable solution.

So I am just trying to fact gather here, that is all.

Has anyone else had any experience with LJ abuse? If so would any of you care to share what happened and how they responded and how satisfied (or not) you were with their response?
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Date: 2011-02-03 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerweave.livejournal.com
That doesn't sound so good :-( So if we are expecting them to do something about bullying outside the multiplicity community itself then sounds like they aren't gonna be too helpful
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Date: 2011-01-31 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hushpiper.livejournal.com
Yes, I agree, and that is why I said that it may be a good idea to let them know what's been happening outside of the community. Placing people's actions within a larger context is always helpful so far as helping you understand the situation, whether you're a mod or not.

In reply to your comment to Kent above (because I've been doing plenty enough comments as it is, lol): Harassment is always hard to deal with, and sadly I don't think I can give you any advice on that. As far as pluralanon goes, however, your best bet is to ignore it. Think of playground bullies; they feed off of your reaction. The best way to deal with them, then, is to ignore them. Don't think about them, don't read the meme. Just make it not a part of your life. Easier said than done, but it makes things so much better when you get the hang of it.

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