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Hi :) I was just wondering, what sort of things do you all go through when switching? Sometimes we experience nausea or dizzyness and stuff.
I'm just curious :)
- Claire

we used to....

Date: 2004-02-07 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-sweetjour551.livejournal.com
we used to experience a lot more dizziness than we do now. Dont know why but over the years seems our body has um adjusted I guess to the switching. We do still get dizzy but its not as bad as it once was and not every time we switch. The funniest thing or oddest depending on how you look at it I suppose is that we cough lol. Seems to be especially if we are nervous about switching but almost always either whoever is out "coughs the next person out" or the person switching out coughs as they are coming out. LOL i have no clue why really its just odd.
~sweetjourney

Date: 2004-02-07 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xerne.livejournal.com
We sometimes have a spot of confusion or dizziness if the switch is sudden, but that's about it.

Date: 2004-02-07 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arhuaine.livejournal.com
sometimes dizziness and if we're switching a lot we end up with a headache. Most switches are not too disorientating. The most usual feeling is a kind of "jolt" in the stomach, like a sudden short change of gravity.

Date: 2004-02-07 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] egyptian-spider.livejournal.com
We get weird headaches if someone wants out and the front refuses to step back.. And if we're switching a lot, we'll forget who is fronting.. *laughs*

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Date: 2004-02-08 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] egyptian-spider.livejournal.com
It happens more often when we're tired. It's really annoying.. *laughs* At least we're not the only one who has that happen, though.

Date: 2004-02-07 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyrazor.livejournal.com
Headaches, difficulty adjusting to light at times, and sometimes dizziness.

Date: 2004-02-07 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
With us, it's almost exactly like a change of shifts at a radio station. One person's sitting at the console (being out in the body). The next person comes in and might chat with the first person for a while and maybe gets a few things ready and then takes over (switching). The first person might remain in the studio and so remain aware and comment on what's going on (co-presence) or both people might go on-air on at the same time (co-running). People also throw in comments from wherever they are on our world (remote).

Date: 2004-02-07 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kiya
That's more or less how it is for us, though we're almost always running a certain level of co-presence and co-running.

I do get headaches if I'm trying to control who's front rather than letting things flow.

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Date: 2004-02-07 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
"I do get headaches if I'm trying to control who's front rather than letting things flow."

Same here. There seems to be a certain biochemistry about it -- we can't find any other word to describe it -- whereby, if someone has to come up front "out of the flow" of things, or who it's not his "turn" so to speak, (ew english), we get The Headache, and sometimes we get it really bad. Normal routine everyday changeovers don't do anything to us. We can remember one occasion back in the late 70s, where we switched in the middle of a conversation, and Iris who was up front accidentally took the conversation with her, and Jay who replaced her had no idea what they'd been talking about, but this happened on Pot, and we have never had a similar event when we were straight. We're usually very careful about holding conversation threads.

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Date: 2004-02-07 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kao-no-san.livejournal.com
It's more like the radio station thing for us. Sometimes we seem to juggle back and forth a bit until one settles in. Orin and Jesse do this changeover alot, while Blood seems to be the most sudden switch. We have noticed that certain people never seem to switch from one to the other.. Jesse and Blood will never change places... they tend to bypass each other. Any one else notice this?

Date: 2004-02-07 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starsandfishes.livejournal.com
Sometimes a slight feeling of dizziness. It's not a bad feeling, it's rather pleasant if anything.

Interesting that [livejournal.com profile] sweetjourney talked about coughing - for a while Viola used to make us sneeze whenever she came out. It didn't happen with anyone else and we've never figured out why on earth it happened with her. ~shrug~

Date: 2004-02-07 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurricanrana.livejournal.com
the first thing I notice is that I squint my eyes. and then i notice my headache. soemtimes I get really sleepy...like...sometimes it takes a long time to switch..and that's when I get sleepy and feel like my body is gonna shut down. But usually it' pretty sudden and I can tell cos I squint my eyes and am sensative to light

Date: 2004-02-07 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] iamshadow.livejournal.com
I've had dizziness before, when the others are close or co-fronting.

Date: 2004-02-08 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniakitty.livejournal.com
We get headaches, with varying degrees of hurtiness. Also our eyes change color... it's convenient, because it helps other people to tell who's fronting. It's weird though - does anyone else's eyes change color??

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Date: 2004-02-08 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com
The only way your eyes could change color is if they are a light shade. People might have different postures which would affect the amount of light entering the eye and may make them appear a different color. This is the same way changing your shirt can make your eyes appear a different color. It is not actually a physical change at all or the product of switching.

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Date: 2004-02-08 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniakitty.livejournal.com
Really? I've heard that it is possible for people's eyes to change color, I don't remember *why* they would though.

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Date: 2004-02-08 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire-house.livejournal.com
My eyes change colour. Not just shade (usally blue) but colour.
I've been told they've been blue (various shades), grey, green, yellow-centered (around pupil), and violet. *shrugs* not sure about the whys, though.
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Date: 2004-02-08 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniakitty.livejournal.com
Yes! I'm not the only one! Mine turn various shades of blue, green, grey, and any combination of those. Pretty much any color except brown. (They can also be purple, but that's only when I have my contacts in so that doesn't count ^^;;)

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Date: 2004-02-09 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
I'll stand by the assertion that some people's eyes really do change colour. The base eyecolour usually has to be what's called 'hazel,' which is usually a blend of brown, green and blue. We've known two singlets with hazel eyes who underwent plenty of eyecolour changes, although it didn't really seem to have any relationship to their moods (one of them said it did but we really didn't seem to notice that). OTOH, our eyes are blue and don't change at all, but can sometimes appear to be slightly different shades because they reflect other colours well. Though there has been a lot of nonsense bandied around about the extent of people's ability to change eyecolour-- it has to do with the basic pigments; you can't change the pigments in your eyes from brown to blue, for instance, no matter how strong your will is or how strongly you visualize yourself as having a different eye colour.

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Date: 2004-02-09 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com
OK everyone, one last time.

Your eyes can not physically change their color. IT IS ONLY A PLAY OF LIGHT.

Yes, you can have light colored eyes that look different colors depending on when you look at them but IT IS ONLY THE LIGHT.

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Date: 2004-02-09 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniakitty.livejournal.com
Then why would my eyes consistently appear to be a different color depending on who's fronting, regardless of the light?

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Date: 2004-02-09 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com
We already gave you an example of how that could happen.

People might have different postures which would affect the amount of light entering the eye and may make them appear a different color.

It's not magic! It's simple physics!

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Date: 2004-02-08 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire-house.livejournal.com
I disagree. There are other variables.

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Date: 2004-02-08 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com
No, eye color changes are merely a product of changes in light. Unless you meant that there are other variables that cause the change in light than just posture and clothing, in which case you would be right.

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Date: 2004-02-10 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
Ummm... ALL color-changes are merely a product of changes in light. Light is what color *is*.

*shrugs* My eyes change color, through all the shades of green-gray-blue-violet. My kid's eyes change color, bright green to medium brown. Her father's eyes change from green to deep brown to tawny gold.

It's not always dependent on what one is wearing or the quality of light, or on posture either. I can be looking in my bathroom mirror (where the light is always the same, because there's no window) wearing nothing at all (because I brush my teeth right after my shower) and on one day my eyes will be distinctly blue, another day distinctly green, another day indistinctly grey.

Sure, I too have heard it claimed that eyes don't "really" turn color. What of it? Where someone else's claims conflict with my own observation, I trust my eyes - whatever color they may happen to be that particular morning.

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Date: 2004-02-09 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leejoon.livejournal.com
We all have noticably different colored eyes, which makes it a little easier on the few people who know us to see who's "out"

And it freaks out the norms!! LOL

Date: 2004-02-10 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
I wouldn't exactly call it "dizziness"... more sort of a numbing, dispersing, fading out... sensory perceptions recede... like falling asleep in some ways, or like floating in a sensory-deprivation tank. Switching back, things sharpen up, sensory input and motor control returns as I become aware of being corporeal once more.

Date: 2004-03-31 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revenantmachina.livejournal.com
It depends on who's switching. If Jareth or Larkspur are coming to front then sometimes there is dizziness. We've never had any real problems like fainting, although sometimes when we switch and there's a problem with choosing someone to front (not that we always get the choice!), we blank out.

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