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[brightflashes.livejournal.com]

I apologize to all the very helpful people who answered my questions last night. My most recent post was not directed at them. : )

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[cirape.livejournal.com]

I'd be nice if you could tell those of us who answered your questions and were ignored if we were helpful or not, too.

[brightflashes.livejournal.com]

I'm getting so many comments in my inbox right now that I'm trying to respond to each one as fast as possible. IT's very hard. A lot of people are talking to me all at once and it's very stressful for me. I'll come back to this once things have calmed down. I'm scared to revisit the original threads, too because I'm afraid I might flip out again. But yes, you're right. I should go a head and post the names of people I found helpful.

[cirape.livejournal.com]

I'm scared to revisit the original threads, too because I'm afraid I might flip out again.

By...reading text? From people who've admitted they weren't trying to be mean (in all but one comment)?
Er...alright. Good luck with that. Perhaps a break would be for the best.

[duckbunny.livejournal.com]

No. Don't 'post the names of people you found helpful'. Don't give us a pat on the head for being good little children and playing nicely.
Go back and reply to what people said. Be civil. Treat us like people, not textbooks to recommend.

[rabbitsystem.livejournal.com]

That was us under another name.

[asterism.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

[lion-azure.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

And to the OP: Posting the names of those you consider worthy of a gold star would be the final insult. So please refrain from it.

[tej-agni.livejournal.com]

I like your journal name. Duck Bunny! That's cute. Kalli

[rabbitsystem.livejournal.com]

Thank you :) We live in a place that has lots of ducks, more ducks than anywhere!
There's a duck quacking outside right now. It's very late here, I hope it's not hurt or anything.

-J.T.

[kyanve.livejournal.com]

Going to try and handle this a bit carefully -
I think I speak for several others that'd been miffed-ish earlier that while there isn't really any problem with discussing the disorder side, so much as treating that as the primary state of a multiple system.
For those of us for whom either it's not a disorder/is something helping heal things, where it's a natural condition, or who have "fictionals" as full system-members like any other, I'm fairly sure some of the issue was the wording and way it was handled - that in the questions and post, it was worded as if the others/alters/whichever word you want to use would only exist as part of a coping mechanism/response-to-trauma in one way or another, and that fictionals similiarly would be assumed to be some kind of a psychological defense mechanism first and other situations later. In that sense, it was basically reading as addressing a lot of people here as "nonreal/disorder/nonhealthy", which for the healthy systems and fictional system-members here, is...well, pretty insulting and definitely hurtful - basically telling them they're not real/only exist as coping mechanisms of a host.

I did try and reply to your questions with my experience, but part of why mine is pretty far down was because...
well, I -was- tempted to snark but it'd have been redundant. That and I sorta shuffled the conversation into another tab and did other things for a while so I wasn't replying on impulse/letting Alessa-who-was-more-insulted add her comments when they stood a good chance of not being anything useful and probably had already been said in other words by others.

[asterism.livejournal.com]

Yes. Exactly.

The wording implied a belief that fictionals are coping mechanisms or constructs made to fulfill a specific purpose, and the OP wanted to know what that purpose was. The OP was corrected on terminology, was told that not everyone here has DID/MPD, and had the questions about fictional system-members answered. And for most of us, no, fictional system-members aren't picked out because they could fulfill a certain purpose, or created so that they will do certain things.

Honestly, it's hard enough to have a stable and mostly-recovering River Tam sharing headspace. She's not who I would have "picked out" as any sort of coping mechanism because most of her old coping mechanisms are very much not-functional or healthy or helpful, not to mention the part where I cannot control her behavior or expect that she will do what I want her to do. But she's here, and she's stable, so I don't have a problem with her being here as I would have if she was less stable.

[ex-suhina987.livejournal.com]

Your entire comment made me smile, but this made me laugh out loud: oh and please to be helping out with the employer's depression issues. In our system, we'd need to change it to "oh and please to be leaving your own angsty depression behind."

I think you're right on target here.

[kyanve.livejournal.com]

I don't mind their angst etc. as long as I have opportunities to sift through it and work on things - sort-of the benefit of being so horribly blendy-identity-melty; it's sorta hard to explain but being able to run their mental tweaks through how I/others deal with things sometimes helps stabilize them a LOT.
and besides, some of them are damn entertaining/good to have around even when they DO have angstymopeyfits. ^^

[asterism.livejournal.com]

Hah, funny how your job applicationy thingie actually kinda describes Albireo fairly well. ;) Not that she's here 'cause I decided I needed her to distract me from depression or anything like that, but when she's smiling, it's reeeeally really hard not to give her at least a half-hearted smile in return. :)

...no, wait, I got it. I brought her in because I needed her skill at DDR. Yes. That's it.

[kyanve.livejournal.com]

Hey, before Ishowed up, Birdy used to FREAK at horror movies and now they don't faze her! ^___^ See, I did something useful!
-alessa

[styggian-nights.livejournal.com]

Jesse is the same way for me as you say Albireo is for you.

No matter my mood, he always makes me want to smile when he's being silly, and he laughs when I try to resist.

/insert random off-topic comment here.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

There will be a brief pause while I die laughing. Thank you. Priceless.

[kyanve.livejournal.com]

I have a LOT that're like that...or at least where there's things they help with and things where they're not really helpful at all, and a couple where sometimes I feel like they're loud more so I can help them through things than them helping me.
I point to Alessa often in Otherkin circles just because...yanno...people familiar with her media would pretty easily grok "that's not someone you ask for", even thou really for all her lack of frame-of-reference for "normal reality" and quirks, she's very level-headed and well-adjusted and usually pretty helpful, and does a lot of helping me figure things out on the internal/wierd level...but even the ones that feel like they get loud for help sorting out their own Issues contribute and are full people - there's benefits and drawbacks and squabbles and "You put cream in your tea? >.o;" and all that.
I don't ask for or go looking for any of them...they're here and even when there's bits of personality clashes and clashes in tastes (Kuja, we are looking at you) there's also a lot to appreciate about having them around.

[rhymer-713.livejournal.com]

Hrm...And what about us who have no host?

[ex-suhina987.livejournal.com]

Or did have a host and then the host buggered off permanently?

[tej-agni.livejournal.com]

Or have no clue if they even ever had one?

[ex-suhina987.livejournal.com]

There is that. I've heard of systems who don't think they ever had an original. One I know of, for example, thinks that three spirits happened along at birth. For one, I know that we did have an original but she needed outside help very early on. That's when Erik and I came along. Still, she just sort of... faded. Couldn't take the strain, I guess.

[tej-agni.livejournal.com]

We really don't know. And those of us who came along so much later have no idea either. I think if someone knows for certain, that's wonderful. And if noone knows, then that's fine too. It doesn't make a group more or less valid if there is a host or if there isn't one.

[freakshownia.livejournal.com]

We know that at least some of us were born into the body (possibly all of us were but we don't know) so we don't have a "host" either.

[ex-casteylan314.livejournal.com]

we don't have one either, except in the sense that I've been recruited to fill the gap left behind. For the last 25 years or so it's been Arhuaine but she's now faded and left, and we're not even sure that she was born into the body either. We suspect that our original may have already left by the time the body was 10.

[forever-alone.livejournal.com]

Damnit. How do we always miss the drama in this community?

[kyanve.livejournal.com]

Luck.
It might not be bad luck either.
-H.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Trust me, this isn't something that was fun to be in on. ~_~

[forever-alone.livejournal.com]

Meh, a few of us could've used a good rant.

[tej-agni.livejournal.com]

As it was a companion of mine you claimed attacked you, it isn't my place to accept your apology for her. Perhaps it would be wise in the future not to place blame on another unless it is justified.

*R*