a bit of a desperate situation

[1000-voices.livejournal.com]

This is a bit lengthy, and we need help with a serious situation, one where we need to figure out how to keep someone from killing. I am not joking.

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Last night there was a long discussion between Josh and I, one of the men I love. A lot of things were brought to light and at the end, so much had been building inside, that I finally broke down in tears. This opened the doorway. The doorway which Armand rushed through.
Let me give you some background on Armand. He tolerated Josh at the beginning because he though that this man was one of my flings. He never thought he'd be around this long, much less that I would end up in love with him. When that became obvious, Armand (to make a very long story short), in a very devious fashion came out at one of the most inopportune times and threatened Josh. I knew that Armand hated him, Josh knew this too. And even though we were aware of this and I had become aware that if anyone in my system were to kill, it wasn't Blade like we all first suspected (who would have been capable perhaps in her younger days but her role has changed now).... the one to kill would be Armand.
I cannot express how very serious this is.
Currently, my arms are bruised severly, my legs as well. My throat still feels the remnants of force.
Last night, Armand came out.
Last night Armand tried to kill Josh.
Damion has wrestled with alters before, those trying to harm the body, or those just freaking out, sometimes striking out against him. But never has one tried to maliciously harm him, nor kill him. None have placed a hand on his throat. None did what Armand did last night.
I know how hard that was for Josh to do, fight with a woman that looks like his girlfriend but is instead the jealous raging alter of Armand. He feels awful for what he did to me, but he had too, some you know this, if he didn't, I'd be in jail right now.
He would have killed him.
I don't know what to do. We're terrified. So much more happened.
I just wondering, does anyone out there have any advice? Anything to help get Armand in control. Besides the obvious reasons of why killing would be a bad idea, we would be the first to be questioned and well, we have a record. Everything is on file.
I'm concerned about Josh's safety right now. We've taken the obvious precautions, as in the weapons we're usually armed with have been removed, although I don't really like taking away even just my knife because of personal safety. I don't want to take chances.
For a bit of background, talking to Armand doesn't work well at all. It was recently revealed that Armand is not just protective of me, but in love with me as well. He's jealous of Josh, no doubt, but promised Josh if ever he harmed me in anyway he would make him pay. I need to find ways to protect Josh. I really don't want to lose him.

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[dreamingkat.livejournal.com]

I know this may sounds harsh, but *shrugs*
If you (collectively) cannot control a dangerous person from the inside, you need to enlist outside help. And at times that help involves checking yourself into the place with the nice white padded rooms (ok, so I have yet to actually see the padded rooms in the mental hospital, but you get the idea). Being in a mental hospital is annoying enough that the threat of it can keep some "rouges" in line once it's been experienced once or twice. and most of the time you don't need to tell them exactly why you are checking yourself in if you don't want to. You can tell them that you feeling suicidal - I think it's a mandatory 3 days of lockup in that case though - the antidepressants have a tendency to keep me from shifting for some reason. The also keep me from feeling anything at all, so I hate them. But sometimes all you need is a bit of a cooling off time, and being confined in the hospital guarantees you won't be able to hurt anyone. (I used to think that if I got really upset, no number of people could restrain me - then I saw the staff at one mental hospital bring down a huge fellow who obviously knew what he was doing in a fight. Those people are scary - and they probably would be w/o the syringes too).

You can go into any police station and tell them your suicidal and they are required to take you to the nearest mental health facility. And most public clinics are too understaffed to notice if your lying to them. So you can probably get away with any old "crazy" excuse - just make sure that you check yourself in voluntarily. A vol going in can check themselves out - with the exception of some states having a 3 day minimum for suicide cases. If someone else checks you in, you have to go to court or get the doctor to kick you out. actually, if it's a state hospital, they'll probably kick you out anyway - they can't afford to keep you in there if your not an immediate danger to yourself or others. That's the trick, you need to convince them that you need help but your not a danger, or you have trouble getting out. I would recommend telling them that Armand was threatening to kill your host body, not Josh, at least until you get a therapist you can trust. And I do suggest trying to get a therapist who can help Armand w/ his temper or possessiveness or whatever his issue is.

If you are looking for advice on how to control Armand internally - you can try good old fashioned female manipulation - "I really won't ever love you if you hurt Josh". You can try getting everyone to band together and lock him up so he can't ever take front again.

I also think you should let Josh know that you don't want him to get hurt and not see him until you get the situation under control.

The problem is not that Josh needs to be protected. The problem is that Armand needs behavior modification - or baring that he needs to be stuck in solitary confinement.

Also, one of the men you love? If the other men are external and they all get along well, can Josh call on them to help him restrain you if/when Armand comes out?

sorry this is all rambling - we haven't eaten and are rather scattered. I better go get food, actually... good luck...