Multiplicity

Well, many of us are into gaming, but I at least am a player, not a character. Promise. Despite moments of doubt, we really are real.

Johnny

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As

mirrorbrothers said, while some of us are roleplayers, that fact is unrelated to our multiplicity.

Well, mostly. :) I'm sure some soulbonds come from that!

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A question, if you don't mind satisfying my curiosity - are you a multiple or maybe-multiple, wondering if you've really found others like yourselves, or a singlet wondering who these strange manifold internet people are?

Rob

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They're multiple still finding their wings; we can vouch.

--Writer

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Wasn't doubting, just wondering, because he didn't say in the question and I didn't remember if I'd seen him post here before. It would be a very different question if he were a curious singlet.

What do you write, by the way?

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Ah, well Echo introduced himself a few days ago ... this question was asked by his brother... and K, the one thats been in the body the longest posted something recently. ^^

I happen to be dating Echo and live with them all (at the moment at least) which is why I know.

I'm a single ... I guess lol, strange since I'm dating someone O.o Anyhow ... yes, there you go.

Oh, and we're gamers too btw.

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Not sure on the 'finding our wings' comment. From my understanding this place has been a "multiple" since before I've been here, a fact that K can vouche for. Biggest difference is we didn't realize this was not an isolated case until but a few days hence.

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*Grins* Not so strange at all, many singles date or find themselves or choose to date multiples. I myself am in a very happy relationship with a triad group.

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Well, speaking for my group, we're multiple who do not roleplay. LOL So hopefully this place is real. Otherwise, we've been duped. XcD

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I'm not sure, sometimes. Maybe Tybalt actually roleplays a cynical Literature intellectual with Altair, Min anf Hoffman over a camp fire somewhere. I might even have a character sheet (parchment?).

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Not sure on the 'finding our wings' comment. From my understanding this place has been a "multiple" since before I've been here, a fact that K can vouche for. Biggest difference is we didn't realize this was not an isolated case until but a few days hence.

To answer your question Rob: I suppose this body is a "multiple", and we could be considered to have a few "walk ins", although I don't think I have anywhere else to go at the moment. I really don't think that I'm a walk-in, personally believe myself to be more leaning toward having actually possessed this body.

Thank you for the honest replies, just attempting to make sure my brother (Echo), isn't having his chain yanked.

(And some of the people who hang out / reside here are role-players as well.)

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Just a note: hitting the "reply to this" button on the end of a comment will enable you to reply to it directly. That way, you'll not only not confuse people, but also make sure that your reply is read by the person it's intended for.

- Malak

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Excellent.

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some of us DO roleplay, but yes, this community is for real.

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Ah. Thank you.

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'Sometimes they mistakenly believe they are multiple'

I'd be careful saying that. Once you criticise one group as perhaps not being multiple, you open us all - including yourself - to the same criticism. Maybe some people do have delusions of plurality, but since we can't prove it beyond doubt, you could say we're all just deluded. I don't think so, but that's taking that argument to its logical conclusion. So you're saying some people are deluded that they're plural, but though you can't prove it... you're not one of them? Doesn't work as an argument. Try accepting everyone as multiple/plural/whatever you identify as, cos it depends more on personal experience, than what others say.

Nick

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This is a tricky question. The thing is, a community and an individual have different standards of evidence, since a community's actions are so much more profound. For a community to reject someone's claims of multiplicity, they'd need proof, because the response would have to be formal ostracism for lying, or condoning general ridicule, etc. An individual, though, can be less strict about it. Since by the community's rules all he can do is politely ignore a suspected faker, he can use common sense, and judge everyone's claims with the same reasoning he uses for every other thing anyone says in an internet community. People do lie out here, after all. And as much as we hate to think it, it wouldn't be any harder for someone to mistakenly think themselves multiple as it would to mistakenly think themselves straight, or gay, or a vampire, or whatever. It's quite possible to be sure about these things - and yet people do make mistakes.

(By the way, in case I've worried anyone, there's no one around here whose multiplicity I disbelieve.)

Rob

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It's okay, I didn't think you were expressing disbelief in anyone, just posing a hypothetical question.

Mistakes about your identity can and do happen. We've seen it, not only in the multiple community, but in a variety of others. The thing about thinking you're multiple is that the act tends to become hard to keep up, after a point, if the appearance of several people is something that's not for real and something you have to consciously act out. Being yourself does not take effort, but behaving as another person does. I think eventually something has to give way, in those cases.

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I do not disbelieve any particular person per say, merely stating there are no doubt people within this community and other places who are not real.

I am assuring myself that the people here believe, in their own minds that they are real. There are enough replies to agknowledge this fact that I am satisfied.

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How are you going to decide who is real and who isn't? If some one is a person and is in this community and they are typing doesn't that make them real? Or is it possible that every one is imagining some comments and not others? Kalli

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If there's a post, obviously someone real typed it. But there's no reason it has to be the person the post says it is. I could pop on a tag and claim to be a third system member named Thad, if I wanted, but there isn't any such guy. It would just be me, Rob, typing it. An unscrupulous singlet could claim to be a fake second system member just as easily.

And as for how would I tell - well, realistically, I wouldn't look too hard, because I don't especially care. But I guess I would look for people who were taking advantage of people thinking them multiple, or whose in-system relationships were simple, unbelievable, or missing.

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Huh. Fun internet fact. HTML, unlike forum code, will interpret a tag even if you don't close it. I meant to say "pop on a < b > tag," but of course I didn't put the spaces in the tag...

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I know what you mean. I just don't understand why some one would do that. What's wrong with just being your self? Right? Kalli

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There are lots of reasons why someone would (And I'm not for a moment saying any of you are). Some people like the idea of being 'different' and interesting and might create something like being a multiple because it is not exactly the norm in basic society.

Some people might even make something like that up to fit in ... if they're friends tell them about their Walk ins or inner worlds. Perhaps some people start inner worlds or things like that as something purely fictional to begin with and over time they become real because of the energy they have put into it.

Its hard to tell who is real and who is not, thats definately not the point of a community like this. I for one believe all of you because I see no reason why not too. However, the origonal question was nessesary to ask ... just encase and every group of people no matter how small or vague attracts copycats for some reason or another. I don't know why, human nature?

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And of course, it is always better to be yourself. It can take a lot of curage to be who you truly are.

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There is no courage in being myself. There is nothing wrong with me that would make it me having courage. Kalli

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Appologies for taking so long to but this straight .... when I said "it takes a lot of curage to be who you truly are." I was meaning it as a universal 'you' ... like, refering to everyone as a whole instead of just one person?

I in no way meant any offence, Kalli. Just my bad use of words -chuckles-

From what I see of the human race a lot of them have this strange desire to be like someone else. They want to be as slim as that supermodel or as succesful as that person over there .... few of them seem happy with themselves, its strange. The grass is always greener I guess.

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It's OK. Humans do a lot of things that I don't understand. Kalli

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How does some one just "start" an inner world? I think ours was always there. It would take a lot of strength to suddenly start one out of nothing. What is different about trying to be like other people? I know people do like to be like people around them. It would be simpler to copy other people than to be one self. I wouldn't want to copy other people. There is one thing I would like that would be copying people. I'd like to have my own body when I'm here. That would be me wanting to be like other people. I also don't think you need to worry if other people are lying or not. Kalli

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Actually, there is no test to measure whether someone has a chemical imbalance in their brain. The only thing doctors can do is speculate based on people's responses to various drugs that are known to cause things like inhibition of serotonin reuptake, etc. But there is no existing test I know of that takes a sample of the chemicals in someone's brain and runs them through a scan and shows whether the levels deviate from some standard norm, the way you can do with blood tests. This isn't to say that the idea that it's biochemical is necessarily wrong in every case, just that you can't test for it.

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Indeed some say that the self is an illusion and there is no me or I or mine, or you or yours. We are constantly changing and we are all therefore a continual process of becoming and not who we think we are at all. We are just 'bubbles', arising and passing particles that is. How then can I claim to be me when 'I' change into something else every moment?
Confusing, but interesting. I intend to look deeper into the non-existence of myself and see if I can't discover if I'm really me or not.
Or did you mean something else? Like perhaps that we are all connected and so not singular?
Where did you hear about this by the way?

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