[identity profile] ricktboy.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
I was watching a fight club vid set to "underneath the veil" by Wolfsheim, and it suddenly occured to me, that Edward Norton's character is multiple. un-co-conscious, but multiple. the premise of the movie is that Edward Norton and Brad Pitt are the same person, but it's so much more clear to me. I mean, basically I had a duh moment.

just a musing.

Date: 2007-03-12 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakshownia.livejournal.com
Well, I think there's more too it than that, since he actually sees Tyler as a physical person outside of himself. Maybe he's a multiple who is also schizophrenic?

Date: 2007-03-12 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20splinters.livejournal.com
Jacquelyn used to see flashes of me years before she became aware of us. Of course there is the bipolar, but we can flash mental images to each other in here just as part of communicating.

Joey

Date: 2007-03-12 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idianshire.livejournal.com
Seeing others in one's system outside of the body does not necessarily mean you are schizophrenic. Many multiples actually do that as well

Date: 2007-03-12 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com
No, he's just multiple. Palahniuk refers to it as dissociative personality disorder in the book (http://www.geocities.com/jarahamme/fightclub.txt/). Actually, they're a lot more cooperative in the book until you get about half-way through when Paluhniuk starts setting up the Plot Twist™. You just have to look at Fightclub for what it is: the Hollywood version of a book that uses misunderstood pop psychology for shock value to convey social discontent to a group of readers that either lack the skill or the patience to read serious, heavy literature.

Date: 2007-03-13 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
That is the best description of Fight Club that I have ever heard.

Date: 2007-03-12 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20splinters.livejournal.com
Great movie! Just watched it again the other night. But you gave away the plot spoiler without warning people! It's better if you see it the first time without knowing!

Joey
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Date: 2007-03-12 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weirdiguess.livejournal.com
I dunno, I think they could have done alright, but he's definately got something weird going on there.

I suppose what I get from these comms is, there's pretty much nobody this comm wouldn't defend and say they should work it out, right? Collective memory says it even got done to a girl who said she was schizophrenic and having trouble with that. So, you know. Dun think that should suprise you, that you thought he was multiple.

Date: 2007-03-12 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paladin1701.livejournal.com
The interesting part about that text is that the DID (or MPD) that the Durden character lives with is part of a wish fulfillment, and not part of a history of abuse. I think that's where Palahniuk (the author of the novel) made a genius move--Durden and the other who lives with him, Tyler, aren't bad guys and they aren't good guys--they're doing what they believe is right from their perspectives. So in a very real way, I think that this text (both the movie and the book) shatter the stereotypes that movies like "Identity" play on: that anyone living plural is somehow evil or shouldn't be trusted (though certainly some will make that point given Tyler's penchant for collateral damage *grin*).
Frakkin great movie!

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