A few questions on how systems work

[raven-system.livejournal.com]

Hello everyone,

I am a system member of the lj account I am posting with. You can find postings y or system, as well as a picture gallery of us on our LJ, feel free to add us :)My name is Hayden and I am otherkin (kitsune) and I am interested in how systems work.

Due to certain events in the body's main personnas/hosts life, I have been fronting for over a day now, which is the longest for me ever. Usually its a few hours at the most. With Sam (the host) having a girlfriend, its awkward when she wants to see her boyfriend, and one of us are out, and she will usually tell us to go away. I'm not usually offended but Alex gets very offended by that, as he loves fronting and experiencing the world first-hand.

Do you think thats fair at all?

Also, when fronting today, I was surpised that I knew things, even though I, myself had not ever learned them. For instance I went to the hospital and knew the way, I knew the dr's name, even how to cook food. Does anyone else experience this sort of universal know-ho when fronting? I just thought it was interesting, thats all :)

~Hayden

Comments

[rhymer-713.livejournal.com]

Hmmm. As for your first question she could ask to see her boyfriend without telling you to "go away" That is very, very, very rude. Or at least it seeems that way to us. Secondly, yes we do experience the shared knowledge. It helps us to pass as a one-mind when need be. Thirdly, we're very glad to meet you.
::Waves::
Rhymershouse Collective Blendy

[crystalseraph.livejournal.com]

Shared knowledge seems to be the norm with our group, though we have private thoughts as well.

Kind of sucks about the gf, you might all want to have words with her :s

[leki-is-a-fairy.livejournal.com]

Yeaaaaaah...that part with the telling to go away? That's rude. That's ruder than me when Kri (our host) starts drinking. And lemme tell you, that's preeeeetty rude.

[raven-system.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, Alex told me to post that, it was mainly supposed to be a post about the universal memory thing but Alex told me to write that. I'm really sorry :< *begs for forgiveness*

~Hayden

[devonianstarr.livejournal.com]

We usually do have that shared know-how. It seems to come with fronting. There are occasionally times when one or the other of us will just blank, but usually the memory is there, it just takes a little more digging to find it. It's pretty disconcerting for some of us when those who aren't out often come out and can't find that sort of info and skills, so we try to leave room for people to be out when it won't cause problems. That seems to be our most annoying problem with being multiple. There's a lot of us, but only one life to share between us.

I don't really think it's fair of her to tell others to go away. I mean, I know that people generally expect that sort of continuity of personality, but if she accepts that you all are sharing a body, then I think she should be making an effort to get to know the others and be friendly instead of just focusing on the one that satisfies what she's looking for. In my book it's pretty selfish. Maybe that's harsh, but I do think it's kind of rude to not be interested in getting to know the rest of you.

Catherine

[kyouketsusha.livejournal.com]

Many systems have shared memories. It's not just you. :)

It's rare that someone will ask for someone who's not fronting to come out or whatnot, but if they do I usually just pass the message along or if possible, give way to that person. (The last time this happened, I just took a message for her, as we were about to leave the house and therefore there wasn't time to come out and chat.)

- K of Furies Faction
(always wondered how that'd look, I don't usually sign my posts, hehe)

[aimeepatricia.livejournal.com]

I wonder what its like to have discreet memory and senses. Not having the ability to know what's going on with the outside world, or only from second hand knowledge.

I mean, even though I can interact with him and things, its altering his perceptions and not physically reacting with the world around me. (Or else you'd be the second to realize that...)

[kyouketsusha.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's like that with Misch too. We can interact with each other, but she can't interact with anyone else (unless she's sharing in the body, she can't take hold of it by herself). Which I think is about the same with you, if I recall correctly?

And she has memories from before being here, but that's partially through my reading/watching her canon and partially just her memories. Lili too to a lesser extent, but having no canon I can't just look up things, either. :P

[tej-agni.livejournal.com]

The others in this group I'm a part of, the ones who never front at all, they stay back in the realm and have no idea about what goes on here in this realm. I guess they would know if someone else told them. I'm stuck here fronting for the past 3 months, so I guess I always know what goes on here whether I want to or not. :(

-Butterfly

[mirrorbrothers.livejournal.com]

See, I think it's fair for her to want to spend time with her boyfriend rather than her boyfriend's headmates. Kind of the point of the whole dating thing is spending time together. Of course she should be polite. She should understand that the headmates are part of her boyfriend's life, and thus hers while they're dating. And she shouldn't expect the headmates to sit in back 24 hours a day. But except for the exceptions, I think a few interruption-free hours with her SO is a reasonable thing to ask.

This sounds like a job for scheduling. The guy with the girlfriend should be willing to "trade" time with her for front time when she's not around.

Johnny

[rabbitsystem.livejournal.com]

I experience knowledge of this worl I have never learnt: I can read and write in Western script, for instance, though it bears little resemblance to the language I am accustomed to. The translations are handled by the brain automatically - not surprising, given my situation.

[weirdiguess.livejournal.com]

I think it's maybe rude if they don't get an option, not rude for him to want to see her though.

[20splinters.livejournal.com]

We have mainly shared memory in here, part because of CPU, part because we can communicate personal memories, like images of where things are, but it's not perfect and some of us just plain do certain things better than others. Like, Gabby doesn't want to admit it, but she got lost on the way back from the grocery store the other day even though Shel goes there all the time.

~Wish

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

On wanting to see her boyfriend: she is within her rights to ask, just like if the phone rings and sethrenn picks up and it's for us. If she asks politely (as she says she does) we would not think of it as a problem.

Shared knowledge is and has always been the norm here, which is not only why other people didn't catch that there were actually separate entities (fortunately for us!) but why our main frontrunners did not believe it was possible that we could be anything but a lot of imaginary friends. Groups that don't have this naturally can acquire it by practice or use notes and lists instead.

On knowledge

[worldnamer.livejournal.com]

With us, we think of it as "borrowing". The memories and even abilities don't rightly belong to the person out front, but we can sometimes access them regardless. Sometimes, one of us will be offended at that, so usually we try not to pry.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think if it weren't for common knowledge in this group, we would probably have... ended up as a long-term mental patient or something. :\ Not that there's intrinsically anything WRONG with coming to the front and not having any clue about how to do certain things or even what they are, but the fact is that if someone comes out and asks to have it explained what a car is, OMG, It Looks Weird in the eyes of society, so you can't have that, we're in ur hedz fixing ur brain!

Although there are times when some of us, when we can get away with it, will... deliberately ignore common knowledge, and ask someone to explain something to us, because knowledge-dumps just feel a little weird sometimes, in terms of what they do to your mind and your identity, even if they're absolutely necessary. I mean, if you woke up years in the future surrounded by technology that you knew had never been part of your life before, yet that you somehow knew the use and purpose of, it'd be a little bit unsettling and you'd be scrobbling for something that seemed 'familiar,' for most people, I think. (I sometimes wonder if the people who wrote the scripts for the "Matrix" movies ever thought about that, seriously. Although I guess it depends maybe on what the skill in question is? "HAY WOW I KNOW KUNG FU" is 'cooler' in most people's books than "HAY WOW I KNOW DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS.")

...and, uh, hi and all that. :3 We have a couple nonhuman sorta people in this group as well. As for the scheduling thing, I think... hrm, well, that's kind of a system numbers thing. In our group, scheduling would get super complex because fronting is kind of random and could be anyone, really. If you're a small group, might be easier to work that out.

~Yushyu

[arivat.livejournal.com]

I know different things than my headmates know - different people too. We have a sort of common notebook, but it doesn't always work. I think it's odder not to know something than to know it, but that just might be my experience. I'd get pissed off if someone told me to go away, and if one of my friends told one of my headmates to go away I'd take a word with him.