[identity profile] tessagratton.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
I bitch and comlain about Tynan a lot. He's the protector here. And he can be a real bastard. Totally controling and domineering and mean and restrictive. I call him names.

But boy, oh boy, is it a good thing he was around yesterday, or it would have gone really bad for us.

So I'm taking this opportunity to say that even though I bitch, I know how much we need him. I know that he makes us all a better "person."

It's interesting, too: he's been relaxed for the past few months, letting us do what we want, just chilling in the back and not interfering. But over the weekend he suddenly reconsolidated his power and reasserted his role as the protector and king. Like he could sense it would be needed yesterday. I wonder if he just has good instincts, if something combined in all of us has them, or if there were gaurdian angels (or whatever) whispering warnings into his subconscious.

On a slightly related note, does any other system out there have a kind of ritual murder as part of their hierarchy? Tynan "killed" Briar, who had been stepped up and in charge, in order to reclaim his place. Briar's still around, so wasn't actually destroyed. It was more of a ritual, a battle of wills that played out as Briar's inner body being killed.

~et al

Date: 2007-01-10 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weirdiguess.livejournal.com
Uh, well we don't exactly go about killing each other, but I gather they can make stuff 'inside' so it's only half real.

Date: 2007-01-10 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
No, we don't have ritual murders. We use democracy, or armed rebellion to change power in the system.

Tsun^Crew.

Date: 2007-01-10 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
We don't have ritual murder, but we do have instances of very wolf-like dominance/sumission behavior. Which figures, given that one of us is a wolf.

Date: 2007-01-10 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
We used to know another gateway system. One of their homeworld's cultures was governed in an extremely stringent hierarchy and ranking, and there was often ritual combat (sometimes to the death, although this wasn't usually intentional) to decide who was #1.

On Laura, what we have by way of "leadership" would probably not be recognizable as such by most people looking at it from a U.S. / European / Western standpoint. Also, what we call guardians (choi) are not guardians as most multiples &/or survivors (at least on line, that we know of) might think of it. They are closer to Shanti Sena in the Rainbow family, but not exactly like that, either.

Date: 2007-01-10 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahaton.livejournal.com
Mostly our heirarchy, such as it is, is animal-like in nature. We all have very different systems we're used to, this acts as a standard one for us all to adjust to. No ritual killing. We do somewhat use violence and fighting, but it's all very reasonable and nobody really gets hurt.

Date: 2007-01-11 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lion-azure.livejournal.com
A most definite "no".

First off, we don't have a fixed hierarchy, or even appointed functions such as "the guardian" or "the mediator". We like to keep things flexible.

We don't have a lot of rules, either, but one of them is that we solve our conflicts without having to resort to violence. If somebody is having issues with someone else, they can either solve them through talking, or keep out of each other's way. Anyone who doesn't know how to solve a conflict peacefully will be exiled - meaning, they're shut out of the soulscape and system communications.

Also, with us, killing somebody wouldn't solve the problem. Thanks to the presence of a very elusive "guest", there is no death. If you'd kill somebody, they'd just get up again as if nothing happened. So it'd be rather pointless to murder anyone in-system.

Date: 2007-01-11 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabbitsystem.livejournal.com
We don't really have a 'hierarchy', largely because we're too small a group to need one. Ellen tends to have the deciding vote, partly because she's got the most first-hand life experience, but that seems to be changing lately and I'm becoming the main fronter.

We'll occasionally fight in our minds-eye headspace, but that's mostly just rough play.

Date: 2007-01-11 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
They typed up a comment, but the browser completely flipped out on them. It's probably for the better. lol

-Butterfly

Date: 2007-01-11 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Hah! I'd still like to see it. Email?

Date: 2007-01-11 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
sure, Nick. :) They were just describing one of the groups in our realm.

Date: 2007-01-12 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrorbrothers.livejournal.com
Me and Rob do more of a big brother, little brother thing. 'Course, it's easier to "just get along" when there's only two people.

Johnny

Date: 2007-01-14 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stealthdragon.livejournal.com
Ritual? No. Murder? Not quite. We've had internal arguments that turned physical, mostly back when we were still establishing boundaries for interaction. While some of the events would have killed us had they happened externally, nobody lost consciousness, so we don't consider them to have died. And when wounds heal with a moments' thought, there's only so far that they'll go. While we can die internally (Kat seems to be on version two or three of herself), we don't seem to be able to kill eachother.

Hope that's helpful,
- Es

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