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[blue-bullet.livejournal.com]

Uh, well, hello! :D; New to this community, and things like that. ^^;

We are a multiple system, and...I'm bad at introductions. We're pretty big, considering. But alot of people who are "here" don't come to the front often. We've been loosely calling ourself an 'open system', where people can come and go as they please. Some people stay, others drop by, then leave. High traffic, oftenly. >__> But it makes things interesting.

We found this community by journal hopping, so made an account to join (because if we joined on the other account, we'd get some raised eyebrows from people ;-;).

Oh! Sorry, um, my name is Ticker, though just commonly Tick. >__> And I come bearing questions!

We've been (officially) a system for maybe two years now, due to constant denial and constantly thinking "OHEMGEE DID is bad!", but yeah..those thoughts passed, we opened our arms to everyone and were like "Hey! Hell with that!". People'd been lurking around here long before, but you know..

But two things: One is that, lately, we've been having trouble communicating Inside and Out. It's like there's a screen between the two, and only little pieces of residual are getting through, and we can't See clearly. D: And we were wondering if anyone has had something like this happen before, and if anyone has any idea of how to, I guess, remove that screen?

It also makes people going In and Out difficult, and there've been times when people who aren't comfortable being Out from long periods of time, being sort of "Stuck".

The second thing, is that we have Schizophrenia, on top of this (though the Schizophrenia is troublesome, whereas this is not). I don't know if it's really a body-oriented thing, or if the er..host (? I don't know what else to call Her >__>) has it and it's just filtering through. But regardless, it's there, and it makes things really unstable and confusing (thankfully, it isn't severe, but it has..er..grown in the past year).

So we were wondering if anyone else is in a similar situation with that, or not. Because honestly, we want to go to a Psychiatrist and get medication for it (we haven't seen our Psychiatrist in a few years, which was originally only for anxiety. But he diagnosed us with Schizophrenia and WAS going to prescribe us medicine, but we declined and hadn't gone back since~), but we don't know how the medicine would effect us as a whole, what it would do, or anything like that.

Thank you for your help, everyone who may reply, and thank you for even reading! >__> :D

- Ticker

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[aquilawolf.livejournal.com]

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia (not quite correctly) several years ago during a prolonged and intense nervous breakdown. Every childhood trauma I had experienced seemed to be trying to surface at one time and I became quite delusional in trying to cover it up and survive. I was offered Zyprexia and finally did take it, but it was an emergency and after 3 or 4 months I weaned myself off. I don't care for drugs and have always had an interest in alternative medicine and herbs and such.

I have found that fish oil, lemon flavored, by the teaspoon after dinner, and a teaspoon of mint flavored cod liver oil after breakfast have a strong healing and stabiliziing influence on me. I wouldn't do without it now, and it took only a few months of taking it before I could see the difference. I have heard it can help schizophrenia if enough is taken.

Sometimes communication is not real good in my system. Children and adults that need a lot of quiet, can't get out if brainy intense people, like myself, don't relax and let go of controling stuff.

The best way to reestablish harmony to my system is to relax for a few hours before bedtime. No TV, internet or reading, but something that gets me in touch with my body, light household chores, or a walk and this helps others get out. I have a lot of kids, and they like to help with chores, and there are stuffed animals in the bed, but they can't enjoy them if I go to bed all intense and thought obesssed and they can't get out. They also like to be dressed for bed and just in general be taken care of as they missed out on this (or so long ago), and they want to feel safe and loved.

I wouldn't take Zyprexia again if I had other options (side effects) but I still have a prescription for Ativan and find that taking even .25 mg at night can help me relax and sleep, if needed, and that way I don't get hooked on it (when I took 1 mg in the past, I had to wean myself off to avoid side effects). I'm not positive but I think Ativan has been used to help with schizphrenia. I might be wrong, it was prescribed to me for anxiety and to help with sleep. Anyway, Zyprexia helped me when I needed it, but it's a pretty powerful drug.

I don't post here real regular, but welcome.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Yeah, about the vitamin thing; we found that vitamin B over a long period of time was helpful with anxiety. Re your experience and chaostiny's, we had something happen to us when we were 17, except we never really found any drug that worked well for us. The one neuroleptic we ever took made us really, really paranoid and bitchy. We did eventually come out of it though it took a long time, so this isn't to give anyone a "hopeless prognosis" or anything. We're actually doing well now.

Ativan and similar things actually helped more than anything else, if we could catch ourselves before the panic went too far. The main thing we had to learn to do was to tell the difference between what was a realistic belief and what wasn't, which was really difficult at times, but we ended up getting help from friends. (John Nash actually talked about doing something similar, his real story was different from what they showed in the movie.)

[ricktboy.livejournal.com]

We take Ativan for anxiety, but on a per panic attack basis. we used to only have to take 1mg, but we've gotten used to it over time, and now have to take 2mg tablets...sometimes two of them.

we've never taken them more often than just for our attacks, so it kind of worries us that we've become so tolerant of it, but *sighs*.

not sure why I posted this, but there you are.

Rick
Pack Collective

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Yeah, building up tolerance is a known problem with benzodiazepines. Anecdotal evidence (both ours and others') suggests to us, though, that if you quit taking it altogether for a few months, your chemical tolerance can 'reset' so that the lower doses still have an effect on you. (Well, if you're taking it on a PRN basis like you mentioned-- it may be more difficult if you use it habitually.)

[aquilawolf.livejournal.com]

Panic attacks suck. I used to have major bad ones many years ago and mostly just survived them. I now keep a Bach Flower Remedy on hand called 'Rescue' that I grab if I have one, almost always in the middle of the night. I also have an herbal tincture called 'Skullcap' that I sometimes take for the same thing. They don't really make the attack go away but make it a little easier. I don't have them often any more, but did have one a week or so ago. I didn't even think to grab the Ativan for it.

I have also tryed alcohol a few times, a couple good swigs of vodka or something (which I usually have on hand for making herbal tinctures). Not the best choice though, but better than nothing.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

jason agrees about skullcap and suggests you try a glass of wine instead of vodka, and see if you can get one without sulfites. We need to get our Bach prescription updated.

[aquilawolf.livejournal.com]

A nice glass of wine does sound a lot better than gulping vodka. Good suggestion.