Curiousity....

[base-oiboi.livejournal.com]

I am a (as described on the communities main page) classical trauma-split MPD/DID. However, it seems the way this is presented is a bit unusual, even for others of this community.

This is an introduction, yes. I haven't really thought about other people like me (which seem to be referred to as multiples in these communities), so it's a long stretch from trying to assure my friends and my own safety.

I have at the very least 15 major personalities. But, it's not just like there voices, as well as being able to take control of the body; They are actual people, albeit on a small world (Which, best I can geuss, seems to represent my subconscious). The 'power,' or perhaps better influence, of these people create territories for them on the planet, the area representing who's it is. Not all of them have territories, however, but seem to be more of a wanderer than anything. Outside of the world is a 'fog' barrier, where another one of the resides (along with many weaker ones, most of them monstrous than human).

My point is, mine is the only kind that seems to represent in this fashion. Does anyone else experience this as well? I'm open to questions for clarification, I'd just like to keep this short so I don't spam the front page. Thanks for your consideration.

Comments

[our-menagerie.livejournal.com]

ummm I dunno? Not sure I understood what you are saying but Im trying. We have portals to another system we are involved with. I think you will find a lot of people in this community are people and not just voices. We dont have any other worlds inside our system except we call it the main and mid worlds but what is left of the "mid-world"(which really isnt in the middle of anything anymore i suppose but thats another story) is just the dragons cave and fields around there. There are approximately 50 of us in here altogether but really it fluctuates some and we have basically stopped counting. Id say there are 8 to 12 fronters, some seem to need to be out more than others. *shrugs* oh and Hi! :)
heather(aka:lh)

[catskillmarina.livejournal.com]

Welcome - sounds familiar.

--- Mtribe

[browncoatrebel.livejournal.com]

Seems to me it's not all that unusual--we have a complex inner world, with cities, regions, buldings, forests, meadows, etc. We also have people who are rotted to a particular inner location and a whole tribe of wanderers.

With trauma-based dissociation, if there is ritual abuse and mind control history, there may be some programmed/implanted inner structures. Castles, merry-go-rounds, funhouses, yellow brick roads, and anything mirrored are often seen.

Ashta and Sara

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

So you're saying that if people have castles, merry-go-rounds, funhouses and the like in their own worlds they should be worried that they might have been mind controlled to have those structures? That seems like a way to stir up unnecessary paranoia to me. People can have all kinds of things for totally innocent or personal reasons, no matter what sinister interpretations others try to put on it.

Lilac

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

I'm inclined to agree. Carousels are extremely common all over Laura; most shrines have mirrors, there are several royal palaces and a number of private ones, and there are yellow brick roads in some parts of Koveh.

Andy says: The difficulty with the ritual abuse/mind control theory is that like Starseed theory it borrows imagery from common pleasantries that many people are liable to enjoy, and since one of the cornerstones of mind control theory is that denying you've undergone such an experience means that you have in fact done so, it's difficult to have reasonable dialogue on the subject.

[browncoatrebel.livejournal.com]

No, I'm just saying those are often seen in mind control.

Ashta

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

I've never heard of that before.. what are those supposed to symbolize?

a yellow brick road?

so if someone was supposedly programmed, what if they didn't have an "inner world" to place these structures in? or was that why they were programmed, in order to create some sort of "inner world"? but you'd think that if it's known that those sorts of symbols are clues that a person's been mind-controlled, wouldn't they use different constructs in order for there to be no clues left behind? like trees that grow brownies or something?

Kasia

[browncoatrebel.livejournal.com]

Castles are usually a reference to the Mother of Darkness castle, which is a big programming/RA location. Merry-go-rounds are tied in with spin programming, which is put in place to confuse the system. It's activated by certain cues and events, particularly any attempts of the system to organize, remember, and heal. Funhouses are also used to disrupt system functioning with mirroring and distortion, also common programming technique. Mirrors are used as a safeguard. Deep-level programmed alter (esp. those connected with Greek-letter programming) usually have many mirror twins. (I am one of a large subsystem of mirror alters, Melissa/Alyssa/Michelle group.) That way if one of the alters is deprogrammed--and this is usually the group fronter--the others take her place.

The inner world is the first layer of programming installed. Most children already have this, as children are prone to imaginative play. It's simply a matter of reinforcing it and molding the inner world to their purposes. However, in our case, there are regions of our internal world that the programmers didn't get to because they were intentionally hidden. The only ones who knew about the havens were alters we created, not them, so those alters couldn't be accessed. At the time, none of the programmed alters could be told about the safe alters or the havens because they would have to tell when accessed.

As for why they don't change the programs, I have many ideas. First of all, mind control practices are deeply rooted in tradition. They draw from everything from ancient Egyptian mysticism to Kabbalism. MC techniques have been refined and perfected over centuries, and there were many screw-ups along the way. Now that they've found something that works, no use changing it. Anyhow, most people aren't going to believe that such common symbols are used in MC programming. So it works for them. You don't change a system that works.

Melissa

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

so, who is "they"?

you make it sound like there's this secret society that goes around and places merry go rounds in children's heads.. and for what reason? to have people doing crimes while hypnotized? what's the ultimate purpose of mind controlling someone? what is gained from it?

this sounds interesting.. (not trying to sound sarcastic or anything, just really curious..) thanks! :)

[browncoatrebel.livejournal.com]

I'm going to run the risk of sounding like a paranoid whacko, and that's what most people think of us anyway, so here goes.

They: mainly, the Illuminati. Look them up. There are also elements of government involved, and Masonic brotherhoods and satanic cults are heavily involved too.

The purpose: to bring about the New World Order (Novus Ordo Seclorum). They want to control the world. By having programmed sleepers in place, Manchurian candidates to make a pop culture reference, they'll activate them with programming cues when the time comes.

There are all kinds of different programming sets: assassin, journalist, government, spy, military, espionage, seductress...etc. Often a highly-programmed multiple will have many of these programs implanted in different personalities. Handlers will use cues to call out certain personalities and trigger them to perform certain programs.

There's good reading available on this stuff. Greenbaum is an excellent source on specific programs. As far as programming techniques, Fritz Springmeier is the best source, but you have to wade through a lot of religious stuff.

I can send links if you're interested.

Melissa

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

sure.. :)

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

subjective worlds (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=multiplicity&keyword=subjective+worlds&filter=all) entries

gateway systems (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=multiplicity&keyword=gateway+system&filter=all) entries

[base-oiboi.livejournal.com]

Thanks for all the responses! It's nice to know we're not the only ones to have this. Though, I've noticed most everyone else seems to be a lot more well adjusted than us... It's kind of scary. XD;;

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

Which aspect of it are you wondering about specifically? The fog, the territories, the world itself?

A lot of multiples experience themselves as having a place where they go when they're not fronting, whether some kind of structure like a house, or a land or a planet. Some of them experiences themselves as coming primarily from this place and thinking of it as their home, others think of it as a place to be when they aren't at front, sort of a place to pass the time, if you will. Some people say theirs were deliberately constructed and others say that it was always there.

One thing you find when you talk with other multiples over a long-term basis is that no one's system works exactly the same as yours. And sometimes even when you do find someone whose system seems to work in a similar manner, that doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get along with them or feel close with them. Diversity is a positive thing. But too often it's seen as negative because people are so afraid of being alone, or being the only one who works in a certain way.


Lilac

[base-oiboi.livejournal.com]

Ah, I'm referring to the whole construct of it. I tend to agree with you that everyone's will be different, thats just how people are. I'm not afraid of having something thats different than many others, but I was simply curious of other peoples constructions. So far, mine seems to be a bit more morbid than others, but I suppose that kind of follows the "Everyone's will be different" Theory.

trauma split

[haunted-blue.livejournal.com]

We are also trauma split and have a world in us. It has four distinct lands and the people are well developed. We have a hand full that front but many don't even know about the body at all and just happily go along their lives. As far as being well adjusted, it is a new concept really, being multiple and this is the first place for us to actually see and read about other multiples, other then the books we've read. That was just recently. We had wondered about trauma split with other worlds in them, but since we hadn't read about others We had felt very alone in that. Just reading about someone else having the same type of thing made two of us cry and gave more then a few of us comfort that we really arne't the only ones. We have so many in us that it can be alarming when trying to sort out why and what and why again...
Nobody

Re: trauma split

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Our other world has several distinct Quasi-nations, and is ruled by a single male (always been males, though with the new dynasty in charge, a possibility of female rulers has arisen), and has an absolute monarchy, with two formerly purely hereditary dynasties, all of one of our sentient races. Underlanken is a very complex other world, and that doesn't even include the vast reality that it's included in, including an alternate Earth settled by Neanderthals.

[arcis.livejournal.com]

we have a fortress.. less fancy than a castle, I suppose. mostly black.. stone.. and steel thing.. <.< the leader/manager said that 'the structure of the fortress is made that way to accomodate control and to some point confinement to other members of the system while giving them their own space and domain' *quotes directly >.>;;

um.. well, we're confined, but our safety is guaranteed here (or rather, taken care of), .. I'm not sure about the others' view about the management, but I don't really have any problems with it~

I have teritories, but they're inside the fortress, like rooms *nods

Outside of the world is a 'fog' barrier, where another one of the resides (along with many weaker ones, most of them monstrous than human).

aa.. we have the Mist Forest, and monsters (or.. very peculiar 'animals' *cough* depends on who you're asking) inhibit that area. but they're not malicious, really, the Mist Forest is actually one of the safest places here.. if you can get there, that is ^^;

oo, and welcome :D

- Oz

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[arcis.livejournal.com]

and we have no idea if we're trauma based or natural ^^;
I think the manager made an essay about that somewhere.. I've yet to read, though.