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[thea-.livejournal.com]

So, who here doesn't consider themselves to have experienced the "classic" trama-model of multiple personalities? When did you first know? How did you first know? What are some of the biggest misunderstandings that people have about you?

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[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

I don't play with toasters...

[thea-.livejournal.com]

Please explain.

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

toasters.. play with them, I don't... :/

[our-haven.livejournal.com]

"Flying Toasters" is a reference to how some people tend to almost deify multiples, citing psychic powers that we all supposedly possess; "Flying Toasters" refers to telekinesis and throwing normal household items around rooms.

Amusing, really.
~Jem

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

I don't play with toasters...

*smiles* A few of us fell over laughing at this response by Kasia partly b/c it was just amusing & partly b/c we do (or did) play with toasters and other assorted electronics.

Tatiana

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

*big grin*

toasters....

[catskillmarina.livejournal.com]

http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/toasterpc/

If i had enought money and more importantly,
time. i would make one of these ;-)

Miri - ducking and running

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

*giggles*

[spazishness.livejournal.com]

What's with the toaster thing? xD We're curious.

Flying toasters of DOOM!

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/glossary.html#toaster

Note that nobody's disputing anomalous phenomena including paranormal powers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_phenomenon) exist, or might exist. Just the idea that all multiples are psychic or that multiples have more or greater psychic abilities than singlets. what a concept.

John

[thehumangame.livejournal.com]

...

frakking toasters

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[kiya]

So I was aware of various multiplicity issues for a while, due to at least peripherally knowing netdancer. Had no idea if it was any use to me personally.

One day, I was locked into one of my aspects, no shared front (I usually have 2-4 of me at blended front); Stormy has ... a temper. Tunnel vision, seeing red, clenched fists, the whole shebang. DH, who does dispassionate analysis a lot, commented sort of from backstage, "This is interesting. You're hyperventilating."

*snap*, I swapped fronts, and now DH was front -- and there was none of the hormonal rush, none of the blood pressure effects, nothing, it was all just plain *gone*. DH said, "Fascinating. That looked plural." (Sometimes we just want to smack her.)

So I got some resources on midcontinuum/singtuple/median stuff and started reading from netdancer and started reading. I foudn that processing myself as the hydra -- the single/plural entity -- meant that I had better control over my responsesets, so I adopted that as a basic organising principle.


Now, the funny thing is that Stormy and DH and everyone else already had names. Had had handles since I was fifteen or so. And I would sign off messages sometimes depending on who was dominant, if it seemed likely to contain important information. I'd gotten there because I'd been looking for handles for certain circumstances, and I'd come up with one, and it would fit and work and then there'd be the moment of, "But what about this way I behave? That name isn't right for that me ...." so I'd come up with another one.


The biggest issue I have is with the whole "Which one is the original" thing. I get frustrated by this one, because we're all one thing, and there is no 'most central' person, no 'original', whatever. We're all me.

[thea-.livejournal.com]

How prevalent is the concept of a 'most central' or 'original' member among multiples? How do you overcome this thinking?

[kiya]

It's something I've encountered moderately frequently -- a common model I've run into for medians is a central self with others as sort of satellites or dependents. The 'original' notion is, as far as I can tell, a trauma/clinical carryover.

For the most part, when talking to other plurals, I say "That's not how it works for us" and get a response of, "Oh, okay." Sometimes "How /does/ it work?"

[luwana.livejournal.com]

Try, "most of the member". No, seriously. A lot of the members haven't had trauma, or ever held to the trauma model.

We don't. January 2004 was when I first realised I had somebody sharing my body, not just hanging around. How? Well how do you realise you've got a friend hanging around lol. they're just there.

People (more especially shrinks) often have problems with realising that they are *not* a part of me, they're not a split, they're not a piece, they're not a manifestation.

[jhonathand.livejournal.com]

Well I for one don't think that I have the "classical" Truama-model of forming Multiplicity,.

I think and in my best estimation, that my brother "Jake" had been around since our birth. But as I was telling my roomate, I belive that to be a more Spirituale thing than a Mindscape thing. I think my brother 'Frost' Showed up around the time that I was 4 years old. (But both remained 'asleep' For lack of a better word.) untilwe were 21

My Brother "Frost" didn't start talking to us until I was about 21 years old.

Either way, There was nothing Catastrophic, or harmful that's happened in our lives that would constitute Truama.

"When did you first know?"

-Well 21, was the big year that it happened, Jake was the first who even attempted to come to the 'Front' and even then he only did it half-heartedly,........Frost Came in banners flying, on his Dark horse, in all his splendor, Scary as all fuck etc. But it happened the same year, and actually only about 3-4 weeks apart form each other. It happened really suddenly.

"What are some of the biggest misunderstandings that people have about you?"

-I'm not sure that there are any. I don't use the plural when I talk about myself all the time. that and Very! Very few people IRL know that I am multiple. and those on Lj are all behind filters and screens,......so my anonymity is protected.

~M/F/J/~

[thea-.livejournal.com]

"Frost came in banners flying, on his dark horse, in all his splendor," Hmm, I don't understand what you mean. Are you being figurative?

[jhonathand.livejournal.com]

Yes, mostly.

It was abrupt. The first time he took the Front. It was starteling. I admit that there was a force behind his presence that i didn't fully understand at the time.

however living these three years with each other has given us time to understand each other. The road that Frost and I had to travel-down (In order to be at peace with each other,) was bumpy at first. we have resolved our differences now and are as close as 2 brothers sharing one body can be,.

Sorry for the confusion,.

~M~

[atrypical.livejournal.com]

We haven't. Sure, we were harassed a lot more than most other kids our age, but...

The fact is that our "core" is still here. She does most of the work. She's known about us for a long time - it's hard to say exactly how long.

She didn't know the word for it until now, though. So... I dunno.

~Shou, of the Artemis System

[arcaneblades.livejournal.com]

Definitely not the trauma model. Hrm. Initially two of us were kinda blended together, but by 17 or so, we knew that we were 2 people, just didn't see a need to do anything different about it. Then a few years later, we had someone else wake up in here. That rather threw all the ideas previously held off by a bit. How I knew, then, was that there was suddenly a voice in my head, where there hadn't been before. People don't tend to have misunderstandings, because very few people offline know anything at all about this. We're just of the opinion it's safer that way.

-m

[stealthdragon.livejournal.com]

We have not. Where we all 'came from' is uncertain, but there isn't anything particularly traumatic about our history. We became aware of one another gradually - then, and to this day, I deal with most of the stuff that happens out front, but Quincy started speaking (to me) more often, until there was a definate sense that it wasn't something my own mind had manufactured.

We tend not to experience the misunderstandings, in specific. We don't bother telling the vast majority of people we interact with.

- Kat

[rainstorm-angel.livejournal.com]

I'm fairly new to this journal.

I am a classic trauma model sort, but I have talked with my Dad about how I could see multiplicity or duality existing outside of a trauma history.

Makes me sound young. I'm not. I just have a good relationship with my dad. He knows about the multiplicity, as does my mum, sis, MIL and FIL on paternal side (FIL by remarriage), and my closest friends.

I wish I could say I speak normally. I do not. I'm about as classic as they come. Oh, yeh, I'm a mum. My daughter knows. She has definitely noted the usage of we, zoning out, lost time, and even alter behavior.

Speaking of my daughter, I had better go pick her up from school. Definitely my reason for being very careful in this post.

Nice to meet y'all.

Take care.

[rhymer-713.livejournal.com]

She found out in senior yearJess of Rhymershouse

[rhymer-713.livejournal.com]

Errrrrr!!!! I hatte when LJ doeswn't post all the comment. I am the "core" of this group although I view myself as one of my group. Like Jess was trying to say when LJ didn't post all the comment, I found out I was not alone for sure my senior year of high school but I'd suspected it for years. My mind used to "over-load" a l9ot during high school. We were going through a very stressful time back then and I found out later that Jess had been front during the days for a couple of years. I knew when I was little but I thought I was making things up. I know now that I wasn't. And as for misunderstandings, my close friends do know but they're coool too. Most of my friends are multiple or very open-minded. My mom knows and when she knows who's out she tries to talk to every one. I hope this could be of help to you.
Rhymershouse/L.

[kathrynnstjames.livejournal.com]

I am not trauma based.

My uncle when i was about 8 told me that I had a little girl living inside of me. That was before he started strong drugs for what was diagnosed as Schitsophrenia (dont know if that is spelled right). I cared for him, and didn't know/understand that the rest of the family didn't consider him as a good rolemodel. So I spent like a week getting to know her. I don't know if his altered view of reality made it easier for him to recognize her, or if he was just a misdiagnosed multiple that had the drugs do bad things to him.

I do not actually know which one (Sarah or Abigail/Abby) would be core, after that I considered them both the start of a collective that is named Alicia, we will all happily respond to Alicia (birth name).

Since then we have grown members and some come then go, we sit around 9-11 I guess the ones that come and go are more towards what seem to be called walk-ins or fragments.

Sarah and Abby are 8, although despite their age they have been with me the longest, and are very curious so not really what I would describe as littles etc. They have had more experience than anyone else.

We only usually tell people about it if we are getting into a deep enough of a relationship that it would be obvious, we are quite Co-all_the_above, so unless we are talking about it, or are on a very deep relationship (with someone we can all love) it isnt' even mentioned. (until I started finding these groups).

I found a multiplicity group on another site that i joined when me and my husband separated a couple months ago, and joined it - nice to know and meet (on the web) people who understood it first hand, as opposed to the few boyfriends/friends that accepted it.

I only really started looking into it when I told my new boyfriend, Who I had been friends with for 15 years or so, about us. He didn't take it as well as I had hoped (shrug) but did a lot of looking up of things online and gave me the term DID, so I looked into it. And found more and more - including groups. He is still kind of unsure, but did at least acknowledge that in the whole time we knew each other he never knew me to be violent (understandable concern, he has a young son who is all he has in the world, and the media etc doesn't exactly show us in a good light). .

I am thrilled to get to talk to others who are others.