A kidnapped teen here
Oct. 23rd, 2005 11:52 pmHello to all out there, My name is Elaine I am 16 tears old . I live with a large family in Tiea's house . She calls us The Mosaic Gang . Tiea has explained to myself and some of the other teenagers here we are not like other kids . And we aren't .
We stay pretty hidden in the house . I guess I am expected to not get bored because there are other teens here and younger kids and a couple babies to care for. I have never beeen able to live for JUST ME
This is the problem . I want my own frinds from the outside . Tiea does not want me speaking to her Dr about this for fear she will be percieved non functonal . This is not about Tiea its about me . Just me . Just me alone . I am old enough to drive . I want to get emancepated when I turn 17 . I want to go to College. Tiea promised along with Shelby they would find other teens for us to chat with , but we have friends we talk too .Tiea flips out when she finds out and says I am being a problem . We have had many meetings about ME!
I want to go to the University of California . I want to live there . I want to study Holistic Medicine . I am very smart . She buys me books & then drugs me with sh**t that makes me feel like I wannna die . I know she is getting off it but she knows how I feel about Western Medicine .
The Doc she sees and works with has had this hair brain idea to get all us teenagers together and "merge us " he says we will then be able to be free . But Tiea and Shelby and Toni and Joseph and Marty said , he did this once before with some family that did not agree and they never reached there goals , they dissappeared.
Honestly some of you must have teens that want there own life ! Right? Well you cannot just keep them hidden and kidnapped for life Right . ? Also Tiea's friends on the outside are older including a miserable guy she saw for three years, who honestly took a liking to me and Kirsty and Shelly more . .
I never told anyone this but like I have too. My first time was with a 50 year old jerk and against my consent . Joe showed up to get him off of me eventually but it was a little too late ya know .IT AGAIN was my fault I was suppose to be in my room. he friggin called me .
I just wanna say something about this seems all wrong its one way, onesided. Its not fair its even abuse and neglect . I need socialisam with teens outside not just here . We have talked about this SO MUCH . Tiea just says we have "to understand we are a special family" I mean she is nice to us and lets us shop for what we want and listen to our music and watch MTV. She lets us go to Concerts .But she comes along, its embarressing.
I speak for all the teenagers , we wanna go out to parties and the Mall , and get jobs our own money . I feel and know that I am very seperate from Tiea , but she says I am just a younger reflection of her and I will understand this as I get older. The teens voted and we do not want to "merge into whatever" ... we dont even know wtf the doc means. I feel stuck in a bad acid trip . I just want to take the car keys and start driving West and not look back .Kids go away to College all the time , I would come back for visits . The adults say "No you can study online and get a degree from home " and of course I am trouble . Everyone is so threatened by me here just wanting to be ME . Any communites for us ? Any ideas ? Thx4 listening, Elaine
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Date: 2005-10-24 12:50 pm (UTC)I gotta go to work with Tiea in a few minutes . Please let me know where the community is cause we cant find it so were thinking of starting one . It says theres one but its discontinued . I dont have my own journal . Its for the adults . I am trying to make it real snazzy for them cause I know computers better...I'm East Coast and we can talk late at night after adults go to bed .
Thanks Whats your name how old are you w/b/l Elaine
Hi Tian I tried to do a "cut "so we could chat more
Date: 2005-10-24 08:49 am (UTC)It's Elaine I sent you a message but it did not show up .
Kirsty and I checked out your Journal cause you friended us and we friended you back . You have a very decent family , as in not too many little kids , mostly teens . We could make a community just with the teens in your house and mine .
Maybe it is differnt in New Zealend or your real smart to be able to just go to a University like that we are looking into all are tests and applications still. Tiea went to The University ofRochester and Rochester Institute Of Technology but we were much younger than and some of us were not even born yet .
How did you bypass all the LA ? Do you have a Major picked out yet . If the body is Asien do you speak Chininese also ? Its 4:21 am here and I cant believe I am still awake finally not zombied out from Tiea's medication . However I have never fronted at work before .
I've been watching though and I have seen the way they bump each other out of the front to the side and thats what I plan to do when we start driving I just hope I will be strong enough to really get to interact with some clients. I've been watching Tiea do it forever and have wanted to speak for her when she is doing a assesment so it should be fairly easy .
I read your bio Your family described you as real sweet and a girly, girl. I think that is so cute . I guess right now perusual I would be described as "The brat" or trouble maker or rebel but theres always one scape goat in every family . I am NOT the trouble maker they think. I like to think of myself as a changemaker. Changing the cycle breaking it of just sitting in this house and being complacent . I am very high spirited and strong willed thats all. I cant be folowed around my whole life or locked inside taking care of kids or merged either I really want to go to College. Do you mind if I show Tiea about you and your age and that you go to Collage maybe then I would not have to run away with the other teens to get what we need to be adults Im doing a cut read more
Let me know I believe in prayer so I will pray for you that you get a B or better in your class so you can keep going . Parents can be such a pain in the arce . Tiea is a nice sister but because of her problems with memory we all have to stay and help her. My Mother is Toni and I consider Marty My dad even though he is not because Toni doesnt sleep with Men she is a real cool lesbian but celibate because she belives she has to keep Tieas morals which means not sleeping with the same sex.
She used to have a girlfriend but it got Tieas kids kept away from her even longer than the diagnosis so she gave up her love of her life. My Mom says My dad was a Boffing partner in the late 80's .
She lets me call her Toni instead of Mom but sometimes I do want to call her Mom she would live on a commune if she could. Ok well it was fun reading your journal wow we have trouble making user pics and getting are Live journal to be colors. Yours is beautiful .
Maybe we have to have a paid account to have color. I wish we could make it real nice for Tiea she is so strange lately from being sick . She wants to delete all her entries from the original journal and start over because some people were so wierd about how she wrote . She does what she calls free form write cause she says "in journals you can do that " At work she has to do technical writing for grants sometimes and it is so stress ful . This is why I want to make her journal nice for her to go to .
Well Everyone will be waking up soon . I have to jump in bed and act like I've been sleeping . this is my big day to finally front Maybe if Tiea sees I can do this she will let me go to california and apply to Schools for Holistic Medicine My 2nd choice is Arizona , cause when it comes to Holistic Medicine (getting a real degree) those are the two best places .
Have a great day at School w/b/l at night!! LATE Elaine ( Kirsty & Kerri fell asleep and are in the zone drooling )
Re: Hi Tian I tried to do a "cut "so we could chat more
Date: 2005-10-24 10:25 am (UTC)Since we went all through high school and we got good marks on our final exams was how we got into university. If you get all passes you can get into basically any university in the country, which is awesome, and I think it's quite a lot cheaper than American universities too.
My inside parents don't live at front. They don't actually live in Eridanus, which is the name of our country, they live over the border through a pass in the mountains. Me and Merlin were both born there but during the last proper war we and Jessiah and Miranda, who's a centaur and really lovely, all escaped and got rescued and brought here. So Datharin looks after me, and he has four other kids: Keilah, Chris, Christopher and Becca, who lives with Nara and Ramon in a different village.
That's pretty sad about Toni's girlfriend. The body here is female and Datharin's had a couple of girlfriends (two I think, and they were both a bit psycho), and Chris and Rache and possibly some others (we don't have a good track of who was around when in our teenage years, and don't remember anything before high school) had boyfriends, but right now we don't really date at all. But around all the people we know it's okay for girls to date girls and boys to date boys, and most of them know about us inside. We started telling people about two years ago and now pretty much everyone is okay with it. We live with the body's family and they know too, sometimes someone will talk to different people about different things or whatever.
Okay now I have to get to bed too, it's 11.23 here. We're in New Zealand which is 12 hours or so ahead of England.
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Date: 2005-10-25 05:25 pm (UTC)You cannot do an lj-cut within a comment. The only time you have to worry about lj-cuts are when you are making a post. Comments don't need lj-cuts because they don't show on community main pages or people's friendlists.
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Date: 2005-10-26 05:30 am (UTC)I'm Elaine , Oh Ok I just rememered a big deal over LJ cuts so I thought over 40 lines everywhere . Yeah is the color the layout ? or the custimizing . ? I want to make it real cool for her so maybe she'll get into something , ya know Express herself .
For Christmas us Teens are buying her a paid account , Dont let her know !
But for now we wanna make it fun . Oh and Tiea and Joseph are letting us teens have our own seperate journals ,if we promise to put something on them for the kids to get entertained with . Anyways yeh thats what I meant , Do you live in Jeffs family ? If you do Plez tell him Elaine said Hi& Thx I love your Icon ( shes so cute)
Maybe I can get on earlier tommorrow night , I gotta get off by 2am I am sneaking tonight w/bl/ Elaine
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Date: 2005-10-26 06:54 am (UTC)You can find out all about how to change your layout here:
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You will find that lengthy uncut posts are not a good idea on any community. However, a comment is not a post. The idea behind an lj-cut is to keep it from clogging up the main community page and people's friendlists. A cut reroutes your text to the Read Comments page. You can't cut a comment; there's no place to cut it to.
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Date: 2005-10-24 11:02 am (UTC)It's not that you're really threatening, per se... it's that you won't cooperate with the group at all. You are a separate person, but you are irrefutably stuck in the same body with quite a few others, including adults. Frankly, you're just going to have to learn to live with that, and make some compromises. Maybe the adults in your system can take you on some trips or something.
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Date: 2005-10-24 11:03 am (UTC)I'm a believer in a destiny for all& equal rights
Date: 2005-10-24 12:42 pm (UTC)I understand what your saying but it also seems they speak out of both sides of there mouths . they always told us "we could do anything if we worked hard and believed ", this is the only family I ve ever known .
It just seems strange that they get to go to two Universties and accomplish there goals and then would not want the same for us teens if not better . If the family would move with us and make the sacrifices we made for them we could do it. We could then accomplish our goals .
I mean we sacrificed allot staying on the inside and being followed by them and watching the kids and babies for them . I've always been a individual and a born leader . I believe in Civil rights which they taught us its our turn . But of course now I am the scape goat "troublemaker"
We could make a ton more money doing this than Social Work Tiea does, and share with them and take care of them in there old age too.
Thnaks I do understand what your saying but its not just being stuck in a system or body they could move the body if they really wanted too than everyone gets a fair shot . Have a graet day!
I hope we explained ourselves well we are the next generation , we are suppose to matter . I finally get to drive today and I am going to prove I can do Tiea's job by fronting first time at work . I 've watched her forever
.Somehow another trip to Niagra falls is not going to cut it , maybe for the little kids but I want more ...This has been an ongoing argument since I turned 14. Thanks for your advice ... Your the gal from Canada were not far, were in Rochester , so havent ya ever wanted to go West? Me ,too . Now all we need is gas money Big day , I'm Psched, what I do today will be a good role model for my other teens sisters Its always the oldest has it the toughest but I am making it easier for them, have a blasted great day Elaine
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Date: 2005-10-24 02:56 pm (UTC)I've yet to meet someone who does.
There are systems in which people will work damn hard to help someone else in the system go places they have negative interest in venturing themselves. Compromise does go both ways.
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Date: 2005-10-24 10:59 pm (UTC)I am the most responsable and care for all the kids and babies and clean ALLOt . Trust me we have compenstaed allot for Tiea and Shelby and the adults
We think we got tem outnumbered if it was put to a vote and we would make better money and it is a good field . All she would have to do is step aside a little were going to wear them down . Its our right . This is the onLy thing we want we never ask for anything she knows that. How old are you ?Whats your mame ? Elaine Kirsty and Kerri and Margo here nice to meet ya gotta run. Older sisters everywhere
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Date: 2005-10-25 01:28 am (UTC)I'm 17, F, and I do a hell of a lot for the so called adults in this system and deal with a heck of a lot of kids in this system. The kids ain't so bad now and I totally speak up for them and this system when nobody else is freaking listening or getting it.
But like I totally don't think its cool to go on about wearing down the adults cuz it is your freaking right to do so and get what ya want. That like could really screw up the body's life big time and like get people thinking you're crazy and unfit and crap like that. Well Tiea that is cuz that's her legal name. I guess it all depends on how you're gonna do it. Like maybe ya could do it and not screw up the body's life with like job, apt, money, and crap like that while ya try to set things up to get what ya want by wearing them down. Either way I think it's a crappy ash way to go about it.
Yah so I've done a hell of a lot and compensated a lot for Julie and the other adults and like just a lot. I'd like to like totally tell her mother off but like I know that would f-up Julie's life right now and so I chill and just vent and bitch to Julie and my gang in here and some of Julie's friends and in our journal.
Oh and like maybe it will be different for you or whatever but I gotta say this is what I've experienced. I like have been behind the scenes a lot in Julie's adult life. I mean like yah sure I watch and am around and will come out front or share front but like I ain't been the main one responsible for her life and done all the main fronting freaking ash crap that goes along with it. And like I tell ya just the crap I gotta deal with in our world on top of the crap in this earth world well like dang, it freaking wears me out. And like way totally draining and a big PIA having to be out front and take care of regular life stuff in a major way like the Julies System does or hahaha choak tries to. Although I gotta say they do their best and like ya know are figuring crap out- just freaking slow in doing it. So like it ain't all that totally easy like it seems right now to be a main fronter handling all the crap in life. And since it sounds like you've been behind the scenes and sort of like out front or whatever when ya can that like well ya ain't necessarily all that used to main fronting a heck of a lot AND being the main one responsible for life going cool and how tiring that can freaking ash be. So like it could be different for ya but I'm just saying what I think.
Oh yah and yah want to go live in a dorm and whatever. Um like I don't totally know about it so maybe I'm the one off my rocker but uh Tiea's body and the body you share is like in the 40's or something. And I don't even know if some 40 year old can be in a dorm and even so it's gonna make the Tiea the world sees think she's freaking crazy acting like a freaking 16 year old. I mean like that's what I think. Maybe I like way watch out for that in Julie's life way too much and it like doesn't really f'ng matter what people think. It's just like well it ain't realistic to me all that ya want, but hey at the same time I'm like whatever cuz it's your life and Tiea's life and like it ain't really my business. I'm totally serial- it's your deal and your system's deal so like whatever is what I say.
Julie didn't get the whole dorm experience in her life. That's what she and some others wanted but it ain't how life worked out for us. And like it freaking sucks and it is like regret and grief and well whatever we marched to our own drum in life. But some crap we just gotta suck it up and try to figure out some other way to get like the main deal we want. Like we did go to college for awhile but it wasn't the dorm experience and well like that's how it is and sometimes life sucks and is unfair but that's the way it is.
Billie
Re: Not cool to wear down the adults
Date: 2005-10-25 03:29 am (UTC)Would you mind if before bed we let Elaine read your post ? We think she needs to see there are other kids her age in the same situation as she is and she is not alone . We think its great that you are so mature and help Julie out so much . Especially that you do not put unhealthy demands on your family group . We as adults commend you . Were sure Julie appriciates all you do for her > Maybe we need to show Elaine she is appriciated more too!
We have said over and over but Tieas credit we could help share memories so she could absorb more but she would have to give the knowledge she gets about Holistic Medicine to us and we are trying to work every end of this for her . Like Tiea and Elaine would take the online course and then Elaine could grow into fronting oon her Holistic job .
Dont worry although at this time there seems to be a equal amount of teens as young adults and all there is still Tiea who like you said is in her 40's and Joe and Marty and Toni also Jade and I are 20 and 22. I never felt the need to do the College thing and break out on my own this is why we see Elaine as so difernt than the rest of us . Thanks for telling her as it is .
She has a one track mind and the very qaulity that makes us love her so ( when she puts her mind to something she can achive it ) that very thing about her is also what gets her in trouble .
For all of us at one time or another Life is unfair or sucks . She just thinks were singnaling her out. We all had to go through this to some degree . She knows in the end we will win she also knows she is t ohave Tieas best interests at heart . Were not trying to have sides or a winning match either but Tiea is one touph cookie and would never allow a 17 year old to have that much control . We definatley have a rebel on bourd , but Tiea would be willing to let her do online courses through her body time . It would also wear out Tiea in that her schedule is pretty packed as is but Tiea does like to give back to the Gang in appriciation This is not a Communist Camp. Tiea is very liberal in letting us all get a piece of life and live our journesy with her.
We think thats generous. In the meantime were going to let her start a teen post or community if she wants . It would do her good to put all her energy to good use . Cause she's got good energy and does allot for us and is very craetive . We also told her after her grounding she can have her own journal . She only wnats it at this time if its no adults allowed and paid . But that may set a bad example for al the teens cause then they would want one . She thinks shes breaking territory for the other teens She is not . Were still thinking about that cause Elaine can somtimes be a frieght train out of control when she gets a idea. You sound like you got it all going on there Billie , maybe she'll meet you online once she gets her prievleges back, We hope so Actually I hope you two meeet online. But she has to have consequences cause she put Tiea in danger on job today although she handled it well she took advantage of Tiea's medicated condition . Peace Jade & Shelby
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Date: 2005-10-25 06:56 am (UTC)Uh no offense but yah that was the point. Ya know for Elaine to read it.
Thanx for the whole mature deal. Yah I've like done a heck of a lot of changing and her T (therapist) was all telling Julie how I had done a lot of growing up. I just ain't as impulsive and give people a little bit more of a chance before I get pissy about something. That and other things.
It's never been my deal to put unhealthy demands on Julie. Except like to sometimes bitch about something and tell her if she doesn't take care of it I'm gonna do it and I will do it my way and not as nice and girly and sweet as her. I like totally tell crap how it is and I guess people say I got rough edges and Julie is like way the opposite. I'm just freaking assertive and way opinionated. I'm working on not being so rude to people cuz really I think a whole lotta other things but it ain't cool to always say them exactly how I think them.
Yah Julie like has gotten way better about me. She totally gets all that I've done for her and do for her and she totally tells me now that she loves me. Like a "You Rock" love deal. And I totally know her friends totally think I'm way cool and ha I know it myself. It's way better now that Julie knows more about me and appreciates me more and like I just get how she deals with things more and I guess accept it or whatever. I mean it's like way better now that I've been letting Julie know more about crap and not blocking so much from her and letting her know more about me and teaching her things that I can do that she sucks at. She knows it so I can say it and I ain't dissing her- just telling it like it is. Anyway, so yah it would probably be way good if ya tell Elaine more about how cool she is and all that.
And yah I know what it is like to have some way strong qualities that totally help and yet can totally get ya in trouble. Been there done that and getting better at sort of seeing the points the Julies make to me and where I gotta chill some and yet still be me cuz I way gotta be me.
So it sounds like you're trying to work a compromise or something with the online classes and stuff. That's good.
I'm glad our system isn't set up for grounding and things like that. I think our system would have a revolt or something. I don't know cuz like our system needs some work and changes on it so who knows what we'll come up with and how the outcome will end up being.
So like maybe we'll talk or whatever. Honestly your system seems like way different than ours and it's just kind of weird to me. I just don't get something about it but then again I don't know what it is exactly I don't get. It ain't really a big deal. It's probably my deal anyway. I'm just saying is all. Plus too we like are way inconsistent in our online communications so who knows.
Billie
Re: Not cool to wear down the adults
Date: 2005-10-25 07:08 am (UTC)Age is but a number. Although there may be tendancies in certain age demographics, it's not a hard and fast rule, and noone should feel pressured to comply, so long as you handle your responsibilities.
In other words, so long as work get's done, bills get paid, and crimes don't get committed, it's noone's fucking business how old she acts.
--Me
Re: Not cool to wear down the adults
Date: 2005-10-25 08:13 am (UTC)This similar deal of body age and me taking over as main front and just crap like that with different circumstances like came up this last week or two with us so I guess I'm mixed up about some crap and it got all mixed in there to Elaine cuz I know I said both things to her--like it didn't really matter what people thought and stuff like that. Anyway, Thanx.
And Elaine, I didn't mean to be rude to ya. And actually like I get now that our crap sort of got put into what I was saying to ya and so I'm sorry if that like bugged ya. I think it would be good if ya guys could work something out and make some plans together and stuff like that instead of having this battle of wills or whatever. But hey, I know it ain't easy to do.
Billie
Re: Not cool to wear down the adults
Date: 2005-10-26 06:12 am (UTC)I wanna be your icon for Tiea's Holloween Bash ha its Sweet . Your right ya know age is all in the head and we all should know that better than anyone . We all have so many heads and ages . Tiea well what I was expalining to Tiea is if she took ainterest in Holistic Medicine we could all go back to School and add it to thedegree she has to make her work even better >
Imagine a Social Worker with a degree in Holistic Medicine .
Tiea has three bio sisters that live in California thast another reason I picked California so its like I had her interests at heart too but the Bio Father lives close to there too so I dunno .
Trust me if I could do this more bills would get paid .
Stay Cool, w/b/l Elaine
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Date: 2005-10-26 06:53 am (UTC)Yah a SW with Holistic Medicine would rock! Maybe like you can come up with a plan and steps to do it and the adults can come up with their own plan and steps and how they envision it and like then ya talk and work it out so ya end up with a plan that everyone can deal with and be ok with ya know. I can totally tell ya got passion. I know what that's like and it sucks to have major passion and not be able to follow it and do what ya want and stuff like that.
Totally off topic. I like figured out I had better not use bold around here cuz it don't seem to be cool. It's way hard for me to not do it but I can get over it. It's cuz whenever I write online I always bold and change my font and whatever when I write. I gotta get an icon one of these days. So anyway I'm like gonna deal with it and not bold no more here and so I wanted to say that I normally do it and it didn't mean nothing else.
Austa-
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Date: 2005-10-25 06:46 am (UTC)Is there any way to get the education you want, without making the move? Is there any reasonable approximation, even if just for the time being?
--Me
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Date: 2005-10-24 05:49 pm (UTC)It's not fair to "merge" everyone because you might not even belong together, you know?
I'm really sick right now and don't know what to say. You can read more about my family at
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Date: 2005-10-24 10:50 pm (UTC)I agree with you Wanna start a teen community let me know but write at night late ok ?Is there a way we can delete this so Tiea does not find what were writing .?
Let me know . I totally fronted today and did Tieas job and drove and she is still to whacked on medication to know. See if she was into Natural stuff her head would be in the clear. LOL we'll read family members when we can, Thx Elaine
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Date: 2005-10-24 06:04 pm (UTC)One thing you can have that we have, is consensus. The adults in your group need to not just tell you no with "because I'm the adult & I say so." They need to give you adequate reasons that you understand and which are not bull. Once they are listening to you, You need to lay out a definite realistic plan for your returning to school and getting a better education to get a different job with better pay. (You understand we have Bush now and your plan may not be easy, or even possible because of what he has done to the economy.) Then you work something out that is somewhere between what you want and what is actually possible.
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Date: 2005-10-24 10:42 pm (UTC)I totally fronted first time today and drove and Tiea is still so whacked on medicine she didnt know . To placate me she bought me a book on Natural medicine on the way home as though this is a hobby I just thought of .
She says in the 80's she had this problem with some teens and I'll feel better when I pair off and fuse with other teens . I doupt it . I wanna live where you live they let you vote at 12 or at least listen to you. Sweet. We teen ladies met some teens frombeyond who live in Buffulo Ny were in Rochester NY thats like a hour away. Everyone thinks its a hormonal phase we are going through we've been harping about this since we were 14 and she knows it . We follow Dave Matthiews everywhere. Do ya like there music ?
I hate being inside I wanna take Tieas credits and front for two years and get my own degree we heard some people can change there age thats Plan B We'll tell the doc and her were all 25 now and she cant do jack nothing . And you said it with BUSH social workers make nothing . Holistic Med is the wave of the future and I wanna be on it . Besides we can take care of the adults better in there old age Physically . Do you wanna start a teen community at night ?
I cant write anymore Nice to meet you Lets chat later Joes comming . W/b/l thx Elaine
I wans't born to be a babysitter . Tell me more about how your world works so I can give Tiea examples Pleez
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Date: 2005-10-25 05:32 am (UTC)They always tell you it's your hormones. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't and that's the truth.
If you start a teen community I might look in on it.
I like Dave Matthews when he plays with Neil Young. Neil is one of my heroes. John Fahey & my cousin Gabe are my other ones.
Mostly it is better to work with adults and not against them. You got to convince Tiea what you want is real & can work.
On Laura a person like you who felt called to be a healer would be in Guild Chan ages ago and no one and nothing could have stopped it. The guild becomes your family. The thing is you're plural. Well you don't have to belong to just 1 guild. Jason is in 3 guilds and has led two of them. He's 19. When a person is plural in my world they work it out. We have plurals in govt.
But the earth world is different and your situation is different. But just like on Laura it all begins with cooperating and listening to each other. Not just "I'm in charge and the rest of you stfu". L8r dude
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Date: 2005-10-26 06:32 am (UTC)The doc thinks he qowns us . Tiea is alraight she cares about us all. Iget it she just doesent feel she can live in california NOW,
Maybe in two years she will get sick of the Snow . Its been freezing and raining in Rochester NY miserable weather for Lupus or Fibromyalgia
Oh I saw on PBS Niel with Dave playing So do ya like still Cross and Nash ? Too Tiea has some of there old albums but the phonograph doesnt work .
We want a burner so we can make Cdsout of the albums. With being a Social Worker she only makes 18.000 a year with a Masters that sucks
Sometimes I put natural herbs in morning Smoothies to test out my receoies and theories and they work . I really hope I think Elaq or Jay will write about your Goverment in beyond the gates .I read twisted chick before I found LJ us teens found it now Tiea . Whats a guild? Like a tribe? Is a Guild Chan also like a Holy person like with Indians ? Trust me its way late so I am out a here I like chatting with ya
my Im is aol jadedmosic, do you have a IM let me know . Stay safe & Cool w/b/l Elaine
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