Multiplicity

wow, that's incredibly interesting!
a worthless, comment, but i'm so intrigued! :D

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umm. i swear those commas weren't there when i typed that. :(

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melange-fiesta.livejournal.com

You know... there are some things that multiples do that singlets just don't do. They can actually LEAVE the front. LEAVE it, not just picture other things and get the IMPRESSION that they're leaving it.

Also, I never feel like I am wearing something different than I really am. It seems like multiples have two existences -- one in the body and one out of it. And they percieve both as physical reality, so one can carry over to the other. But that has never, ever happened to me. Actually, I'd be scared if that ever happened to me.

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It's not scary.
You just look down & go "Oh, right, t-shirt not blouse... right, oops".

I've found myself flicking back hair that's not there or putting something into a pocket that's not there.

It's no big deal, it dosn't cause any problems... it's just interesting & I was wondering if it was common.

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how often do you front? do you ever adapt to the discrepancies after an amount of time?

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I front often, but rarely for long. I'd like to front for longer. I'm working on that, but usually Ash fronts because it's more practicle for him to do so (his gender matches the bodys sex)

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Oops... do I adapt to the discrepencies? Yes & no. Usually after a bit I go "Oh, right... flat chested, male body (yuk)" and then the feeling passes, sometimes not & it's a continual suprise to find I'm not physically matching my self-image. It's nothing that needs adapting to as it dosn't prove a problem.

The best way to deal with it is to get dressed up (see my LJ pic as opposed to Ash's) so my physicality matches (as close as physics and biology allow) my self-image

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i like to equate being in an 'inner world' as lucid dreaming (dreaming while being aware of it, and being able to interact with/manipulate your surroundings).. except, in contrast to dreaming, inner worlds are stable and populated with actual, stable people.

being in a different 'reality' while not being in one's physical, this-world body.

i'm jealous of those with inner worlds. hahaha

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I don't have an Inner World. I'm not really interested in one either, the outer-world is enough for me to handle :) . When I'm not 'fronting' I'm usually staring over the shoulder of Ash (the person who fronts most often out of the 2 of us) or in the background. Sometimes I'm 'asleep'... which is not real sleep, it's like floating somewhere dark & peaceful & warm deep inside. When one of us is asleep we tend not to remember what the other person has done, or end up with second-hand memories (sometimes false memories... I've worked out how to do that when I want to keep something private).

But no... no inner world.

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saturniakitty.livejournal.com

Heh, I'm jealous too. I want one ;_; (Or rather, one that I can enter...)

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Singlets do that too. Read Lovecraft.

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melange-fiesta.livejournal.com

Isn't that a fictional book? Anything can happen in fiction.

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quite a few singlets have been known to have inner worlds. There's quite a list of authors which I can't remember right now, but i know one of them was Emily Dickinson.

I don't see why singlets can't develop an inner world (or be born with one, most likely in a singlet's case) if multiple people can!

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eridanusus.livejournal.com

All the time.

Also have been doing sort of visual hallucination stuff (can't remember how to describe it better) with a friend and if we're doing it at nighttime, and it's usually daytime in the landscape we're projecting, it gets really weird to look around and go, oh it's dark.

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Any and all of we frontrunners do that all the time. I think it's fairly common.

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littlebus.livejournal.com

There was one time when we (Annabelle and I) were cuddling in bed and Ash popped up suddenly - your mum was calling for him from the other room, I think. He did the funny *blink-blink* he does when there is a sudden switch back to him. And then he pulled off the blankets "to check that he wasn't wearing a plaid skirt and Mary Janes."

Not helpful, I know, but interesting that you were projecting so loudly that Ash picked up on it as "real" - or at least "real enough that I ought to check before going out into the hallway."

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Generally it's best to check hun... just incase.

Sometimes she projects this quite strong self image and I do have to check.
It never hurts to go "Right... breasts: no... good I'm still biologically MALE 'phew', skirt: no... good, legs: two as per usual that's ok no more no less, any unusual marks or tatoos: no... good, etc..."
You know, just in case. She has been known to suddenly front for a couple of seconds. Just long enough to switch underwear or something. She's also gotten quite good at putting out memories that don't quite match up with reality. Pulling tricks like "oops... no it's knickers not boxers ha ha ha" gives her a sence of control, helps her feel less like a passenger I guess. We have talked (her & I) about it and I'm usually ok with her little practacle jokes provided they don't get out of hand. She's cooled off on them recently mainly because I tolerate them and that's taken the fun out of them, which is a pity as she needs some sort of outlet.

I guess I have a fairly strong self image. When I'm projecting a strong self-image and she's 'up' (erm... 'fronting') it bothers her as in "Oh no, I'm an ugly hairy freak male-body" and kind of distresses her, so I try to stay quiet mentally when she's up. Her projecting a self image just confuses me.

I don't know why self-images occour. Why she should perceive reality as different from what it is, or even quite what I mean by me "staying mentally quiet". It's hard to explain.

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not that you asked, but!:

I think it makes sense that the 'false' self-images occur. each person (usually, at least) has a body they identify with the most, like annabelle being a brunette woman as opposed to being male. If it is believed that the brain/the soul/whatever is the 'only' way some people exist as their personal self-image as opposed to the physical body, it would mean that their perception of self-image is constantly being overridden, or even actually being sensed in an inner world (which Annabelle tells me is not her case). That could mean that, even if they do begin to recieve stimuli that says otherwise from the physical body, this stimulation is ignored and they continue to percieve themselves as they 'know' they are, even if they are in a different body for a time.

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*sigh* Oh for gigantic boobs.

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You wish!

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endis-ni.livejournal.com

They do say that anything more than a handful's a waste.
I'm not entirely convinced by that, but there we go.

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Filthy Letch :)

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Swap you.

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endis-ni.livejournal.com

I already told you, I'll swap my saggy female bod (with twin airbags as standard) for your jaw dropping immune system and healing factor.

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no hairier than an average male I guess. Not hairy like a bear, but not little-boyishly hair-free either. Ross Kemp rather than Tom Sellic I'd say. Dark hair but not thick or course. Kind of... average. I'd say on a rating of 1-10 with 1 being devoid of hair, 2 being light blond sparse hair, 10 being Brian Blessed ... about a 4.

You know, this is the oddest conversation I've had today, & I started the day on Pagga.net!

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And no gigantic boobs, no thanks.
If I could arrange for Annabelle to have them part time that would keep her quiet but a full time swap? No thanks.

(Annabelle's making "oh go on, go on" in the back of my skull).

I like breasts. If I had breasts I'd never get anything done.

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No you wouldn't, because your back would hurt a lot. Ow.

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NOOOOOOOOO
you don't want those. ow. back trouble.

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kasiya-system.livejournal.com

some of the kids notice it more for us.. -kas

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How do you mean?

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kasiya-system.livejournal.com

Body size differences. Not so much for the children who are here more than the others, but if one of them haven't been here for awhile or for the first time, it's a little disconcerting for them.

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