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multiplicity_archivesI just have to say this, as it's been bothering me since I read the various posts.
First off, I do not understand the constant need to belittle someone because they're not multiple as you see multiplicity should be. We're in this together in one form or another and depend on each other in one way or another because we know the struggle each other go through.
Secondly, I fully realize that some people may be multiple to the way that they fit into the stereotypes, but they should not be lifted to public attention as the example is generally a negative one. Why can we not get some uplifting examples of functional system?
Thirdly, and lastly, the host needs more friends who can understand. I think total, we're friends with 5 other systems, and we would like to see her gain more people that she can relate to so that she can feel more comfortable talking about us or letting us type in the journal.
Thank you for your time,
Dalyna
First off, I do not understand the constant need to belittle someone because they're not multiple as you see multiplicity should be. We're in this together in one form or another and depend on each other in one way or another because we know the struggle each other go through.
Secondly, I fully realize that some people may be multiple to the way that they fit into the stereotypes, but they should not be lifted to public attention as the example is generally a negative one. Why can we not get some uplifting examples of functional system?
Thirdly, and lastly, the host needs more friends who can understand. I think total, we're friends with 5 other systems, and we would like to see her gain more people that she can relate to so that she can feel more comfortable talking about us or letting us type in the journal.
Thank you for your time,
Dalyna
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Date: 2005-09-08 10:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-08 10:53 pm (UTC)My journal is pretty boring, it's mostly my random thoughts, dealing with school, and sometimes chaos in the system going on. But... If you'd like to add us feel free too. It may just... bore you. :)
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Date: 2005-09-09 12:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-09 03:38 pm (UTC)Sadina's completely false DID expertise is only a small facet of the fraud. Sadina claims to be a beautiful twenty-something female who courageously continues on with her life despite having lost family members, suffered horrible abuse, battled drug addiction, and struggles with DID.
The middle-aged man behind Sadina uses the sob story to win people's trust. I don't know why he felt pretending to be multiple would add to the story.
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Date: 2005-09-10 08:27 pm (UTC)He also spends time in various forums for attractive females, who aren't part of the survivor community. He joined ratings communities, and even started on on LJ. He has a "Republican Hottie" group on myspace now.
--Me
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Date: 2005-09-10 08:18 pm (UTC)--Me
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Date: 2005-09-09 12:01 am (UTC)if i had a roommate kind enough to let me grow mushrooms, i'd hang on for dear life :D
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Date: 2005-09-09 12:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-10 07:52 pm (UTC)--Me
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Date: 2005-09-08 10:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-08 11:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-09 12:01 am (UTC)We've been saying this since 2002... (http://www.karitas.net/pavilion)
Anyone at all is welcome to friend us. You do not need to ask.
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Date: 2005-09-10 04:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-09 03:12 am (UTC)I've added you to our friends list,
~Jem
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Date: 2005-09-09 03:14 am (UTC)Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-09 06:52 am (UTC)Also, 'outwardly successful' systems which are running well are often deeply in the closet-- they're afraid of jeopardizing their career if anyone finds out about them. And not without reason, if some of the stories I've heard are an indication. Which sucks, but that's the reality we have to deal with right now. I've personally slacked off on my activism, and I feel badly about it, because I'm compromising both my potential to be accepted and everyone else's.
Part of what we were trying to do with Pavilion was to post profiles of all the systems involved to show that we really weren't that different from other people in terms of our interests, jobs, hobbies, etc.; unfortunately, that seems to have washed up for the time being. I'm wondering if there might be a place for the plural equivalent of the Autistic Adults Picture Project (http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/AuSpin/a2p2.htm), or something similar.
-J
Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-09 09:10 am (UTC)Backwards and in high heels. Thus the interminable claims that multiples are more creative, more imaginative, more intelligent, more psychic, more sparkly...
Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-09 10:27 pm (UTC)Does the hair naturally come in with highlights, then? If all of the Multiple Personality Gifted were placed within a single house at Hogwarts, would they kill one another until only the Uber-Sue System was left?
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Date: 2005-09-10 03:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-10 03:46 am (UTC)Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-10 07:17 am (UTC)Numbers were a way of doing that early on: 92 for Truddi Chase was considered unbelievable in 1987, but others soon jumped into the spotlight claiming headcounts in the hundreds or thousands. It's not that I don't believe systems with populations that high exist, although generally speaking, only a very small percentage of people frontrun in such cases; it was the fact that it turned into a game of 'can you top this,' especially since higher numbers were thought to be correlated with more trauma (which, of course, whet the public's appetite for horror stories).
The psychic stories became more extreme over time too. Once more it was a case of upping the ante-- once they appeared in a few books, they quickly became routine, from fritzing out electronic equipment to ISHes named Michael who implied that they were the Michael. Again, while I don't dismiss the possibility of some types of 'psychic' phenomenon, there are such things as coincidences, and some systems started to feel they couldn't be 'real' if nothing had ever exploded when they were standing next to it. A lot of covert dicksizing went on-- everyone wanted to have the weirdest psychic experiences, the most extreme physical changes, and the worst abuse stories. They were not exactly killing each other, but someone would always try to one-up you, no matter what you said.
Doctors would report, using awestruck language, their 'discovery' of patients showing some allegedly unprecedented trait, whether in their numbers, their variety of 'alters,' their physical changes, their ability to do something which the system 'couldn't possibly have learned.' (In the vast majority of cases, it turned out that they did have an opportunity to learn it-- they learned Japanese from the family gardener or something, or someone very deliberately sat down and taught themselves how to play the flute, but since they had no communication, the knowledge couldn't be passed to anyone else. A lot of the more extreme claims were rooted in the doctors' desire to believe, and much was exaggerated-- someone who could speak or write some coherent phrases in another language, for instance, was reported as being fluent in that language.)
-J
Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-10 03:47 pm (UTC)It took about three days for the others to start begging me to put away the Sue!Multiple literature. The shellshock from the reading alone had me coping through Captain Marissa Picard of the U.S.S. Sparkly Toaster jokes within a week. The rest of the system only experienced the oneupmanship contests as they trickled down onto a pertinent newsgroup; we can't even imagine how bad, say, Braun's wards must have been.
Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-10 08:57 pm (UTC)Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-10 09:03 pm (UTC)Re: Examples of functional systems
Date: 2005-09-10 11:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-10 04:58 pm (UTC)