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[sublimebeing.livejournal.com]

I'm getting mad because Kyra keeps trying to control me and make me think things that aren't true because then she can get her own way. I have my own space for deep, deep secrets but I have to keep a close eye on that and exhibit a lot of willpower to keep it locked up, she is a very strong part of us and everybody finds it difficult to keep things hidden from her (if they want to that is) because she seems to be able to just enter other people's space and see our thoughts and memories. We can stop her if we concentrate and put up a lot of force..but sometimes she messes with dreams and stuff and just generally behaves in manner which we do not find acceptable.

Has anybody else had problems like this? Or at least found that some people are stronger in your system than others or have more internal control? Can any of the members of your system get inside other's minds and see what they are thinking etc? Or are they very separate?

*Asha*

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[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Our communication systems are set up in such a way that "memory" blockage between frontrunners is practically impossible. Unfortunately, because what if we wanted to hide birthday presents? Elaq

Telepathically reaching inside another's mind and doing the kind of manipulation you describe is a violation of privacy, which is considered extremely unethical on our world. A person who did such a thing (assuming that it were possible, which I'm not at all sure) would lose honour. However, I wonder about Kyra's motives. Is she doing it out of pure selfishness, or because she dislikes the rest of you, or is she trying in some way to be helpful? Andy

[(Anonymous)]

Mmm..it is more like she is shouting really loud inside my head when I am fronting, like if a friend of mine that she didn't like turned me down for a shopping trip or something..she would create anger where before there was none. And make me feel like my friend was blowing me off to do something better - which was untrue. I don't know if that makes sense, but it is like she tries to control us to do what she wants to do and acts in a very selfish manner. And I agree on the birthday present thing - 'cept nobody wants to get her anything - and she is the only one who violates our privacy! She is the strongest of us, yet isn't the first - it seems strange that she would have such "powers" when she was born into a fully functional system.

Spiritxx

Oops

[sublimebeing.livejournal.com]

Sorry about the anonymous post - I forgot to log in:P

Spiritxx (the ditz)

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[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

When she does that shouting, have you tried telling her "Yes, I understand you think X about this," and seeing if she settles down?

Understanding what motivates her will make it a lot easier for you to work with her instead of fighting with her.

As an example, she may think that friend is bad for you and be trying to protect you. Listening to her objections may make it easier for her to acknowledge that who you choose as friends is your choice, not hers.

[(Anonymous)]

We have, it seems that she is just a genuinally very anger and bitter person. She seems to get a kick out of manipulation. And it isn't an objection as such...it is more like she wants to create havoc and make us end up with no friends but each other.

Ugh, I am sick of that child.

Moonshine

[sublimebeing.livejournal.com]

I wish we could remember to log in every once-in-a-while.

[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

*chuckle* it is a pain sometimes.

so why's she want you all to have no friends? is she afraid they'll hurt you, or that you'll hurt them, or that they won't want to be near you when they know you all better, or that if you have other friends no one will care about her, or ???

and what does she want besides keeping other people away? any interest in clothes or music or movies or ???

[sublimebeing.livejournal.com]

She likes boxing, she is the one who insists we go twice a week. So she enjoys beating the crap out of another person and that is about it.

Is there any such thing as a truly bad person? If so then I think we have found one. We have considered more drastic measures because the young ones get upset by her and she is beginning to make us feel that she is not worth the hassle. She does it with all sorts, not just friends - when the TV breaks she tries to stir up *anger* in the emotion box... When anybody has an (internal) conflict she causes trouble, when our daughter cries she tries to create resentment..the list goes on.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

It's not necessary to be the first, or the birth person, in order to have certain abilities. Besides, maybe the rest of you could do similar things but haven't felt a need to.

Have you asked her what her motives are -- what it is she wants?

[shatterstorm.livejournal.com]

Many of us are able to block memories from the shared memory.

We also have some who have edited another's memories, although it was agreed to before the editing. This was done for the safety of our group - it was decided that someone had to be able to function as if "everything is fine" and she got the job.

[stealthdragon.livejournal.com]

I'm beginning to suspect that my memories have been messed with lately, but it's an extremely difficult thing to determine. The hints so far are of nothing major, so it may just be an ordinary failure & replacement. (It seems that physical memory storage inside the human brain rewrites at each instance of being read. Error prone? You bet.)

I seem to have the body-override, and often have to purpousefully step back to allow others to front. I usually can't hear their thoughts unless they're making an effort in my direction, and I suspect they don't hear nearly all of mine. It's easier to communicate when we're co-fronting than when only one person is out.