Sex : M in F body

[mysidia-system.livejournal.com]

I hope this is ok to post here!


I'm a male in a female's body. I'm involved in a relationship with an outside woman who I have become intimate with. I have always been nervous fronting because I am a huge guy and have to come out into this little tiny woman's body -cringe- but I'm trying to get over it.
On to the question / concern! I am a virgin in every sense of the word pretty much inside as well as out! I wondered how being in a female's body will effect physically having sex (or masturbating for that matter). Since inside I have a penis, and outside I don't -mumbles damn it-. Will I feel sensations like an outside male would if I don't have a penis to work with on the outside? Or, must I learn to make love as a female when carrying the outside body so it would give me sensations like a female would have?
I've been intimidated to try anything sexual while fronting. I know I should explore with it, but comfort words from others will help relieve some of the intimidation I hope!

Cody

Comments

[crystalhellion.livejournal.com]

You've got to do what would make you feel right in this, but it's easier said. Chances are, what you would do would feel like a female no matter what, but there's also a chance that it just might not even register in your mind. I know quite a few transguys who are sort of numb to the female sexual sensations, so, there's that possibility. (It also occurs in reverse; it didn't register in my mind if my body would be touched or tried to be turned on in the way a male's would - I would not feel anything from it.) In other words, trying to function in that manner as a female might not even make a difference. In the end, you have to find a way that will work with you and with the body, even if it's not exactly the way you want things to be done.

Sorry if this isn't more help.

[annabellelaw.livejournal.com]

Just try it... relax and try it. Remember there is no "should" here. There is no way anyone "should" feel. If a sensation feels nice go with it, if it dosn't don't. Apart from that you are on your own... but remember that everyone else in history has had to figure it out on there own & it mostly works out fine.

[little-heather.livejournal.com]

"Will I feel sensations like an outside male would if I don't have a penis to work with on the outside? Or, must I learn to make love as a female when carrying the outside body so it would give me sensations like a female would have?"

fish doesnt feel like logging into his lj right now but he says: i am a gay/bi male in this female body. The only experience i have on the outside with this is thru masturbation....yes it feels weird and i do know that i am in a female body when i do it.....however there have been times that ive been able to feel seperate enough i guess that i do feel like myself even though i know im missing my own genitalia out here. Maybe its different for everyone? i dont know. i sorta had a discussion about this with the bodys Mistress (Shes my g/f too btw). She said that she knew when she fell in love with me that i would never have those parts on the outside body and yet she still sees me as male. So id say if your partner is understanding of the situation it would be a lot easier to not feel female no matter what. Shrugs hope that all makes some sense not sure what else to say.
~fish

[ex-awed819.livejournal.com]

Yeah, you have to do with what feels right to you. Judging from your entry, I imagine there's a certain amount of ambivalence on both your parts. Hrmm...if in doubt, why not try them both? Making love/sex/fucking is the same, with or without the aid of a toy/device.

That's my two cents anyway. Best of luck!

<3

[zenboiuke.livejournal.com]

Experiences like this are so subjective for everyone... I am a transmale. The body is female but I identify so strongly with being male that leaving the body unchanged was unbearable. That option isn't necessary for everyone, however. If you can feel physically & emotionally comfortable expressing your sexuality through the body you are in then more power to you!

I know for me there is a terrible disconnect between what I know I have felt in the past when I was incarnate as a man, and what the body feels now. I 'Remember' lovemaking & how good it was, but when I try to have any sort of experience with THIS body... well the results are less than thrilling -_-;; lol

The good news for you is that my case seems to be rare. I have known other transmen who are more than capable of a sastifying sex life, as well as multiples whose bodies are of a different gender and who find ways of enjoying time with their lovers. Don't be afraid to try new things until you find what works for you ^_^

Good luck!

~Kier

[transman58.livejournal.com]

when i read this, it brought back a lot of memories for me. i was born into a female body and most of the 'littles' here in my system are male. i have transitioned from female to male via hormones and surgery so my body now mostly matches what all of us feel inside.
sex has always been a major issue for us because while we know that we have a predominantly female body, we also know that we are men so we have sex like most men and masturbate like a man. i identify as a gay man and that makes sex with other people a little more complicated but when i did have sex with women, i always had penetrative sex, i.e. i penetrated them by whatever means they were comfortable with. now, i just sort of go with what feels good and don't really think about the parts.
i guess what i'm trying to say is...do what feels good...if something doesn't feel right, you have the right to say stop. try lots of different things and you will find things that work for you.
i wish you a lot of luck with this and please let us know what is happening with you.
ethan of the Hawk family

[coginthenose.livejournal.com]

First off you may find this group helpful:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MPD_and_gender/
Secondly we have found from years of being trans as well as multiple and having lovers who are multiple and/or trans that sex is about energy more then about bodies/parts. This is a hard thing to grok but it seems true. Yes bodies play a role in it but we find what works best is to find ways of using the parts that atleast do not distract from the energy if not add to it. That said it can be pretty difficult.

You might want to look at buying/making a strap on harness and dildo. Wear it, use it, masturbate, etc with it. I have a friend who in time has come to feel that his is part of him.

I hope this helps and if you want to talk about it more please let me know.
Angie/alice

[elenbarathi.livejournal.com]

There's something called The Transfer (http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys/acrylic_dildos.html), which apparently doesn't require any harness... a FtM friend on another site posted an utterly glowing review; said it was the best device of that sort ever invented, and well worth the (exorbitant) price.

[shadowechoes.livejournal.com]

There's also the feeldoe (http://www.feeldoe.com/page6.html) which we've heard great things about and is a bit more affordable.

Some of the guys in our system have been contemplating getting one, although are still a little weirded out about having anything penetrate them.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Why would it not be okay? It's on topic, well written and gets straight to the point.

Besides, I agree with you. Most of our frontrunners including myself are men. I can only say we have sort of adapted to what we have to do with the female body. To us, the sexual sensations itself are not that different from our own ones.

You know it occurs to me that maybe if you could co-run the body with a lady in your group, and learn / get used to it that way.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

I would suggest checking some FTM communities, actually-- there are quite a few FTMs who choose not to have bottom (genital) surgery, partly because it tends to give imperfect results, and the subject of sex and how to manage things comes up pretty regularly in some groups. There are some actually devoted entirely to the subject, if you can find them-- I think there's one on LJ.

People who are out front in this body experience it as female, regardless of their own gender. That is, I doubt very much that we could go through and pantomime having sex with male parts and feel anything (except silly). Some people have said this works for them, but it doesn't seem to for a majority in my experience, regardless of how male or female they feel. Some people are too embarassed to do anything like that in this body because of the difference between it and who they are, although they might try to find a way to work it out if they were interested enough.

It can also depend what exactly you're trying to do-- there are certainly ways you can make love to a partner without having penetration, and gender doesn't affect your ability to do those.

[changelyng14.livejournal.com]

gawd i cant believe im going to discuss this openly, but maybe what i do in reverse would help you?
do you have any ability to 'manipulate' your experiencement (is that a word?) of physical sensations? if so, this is alot easier to do.
The short is you confuse yourself so that your physical bodies sensations 'line up' with your interal ones. confuse your various holes, confuse your clit. (i confuse my sensations until im wearing a double sided strap on *blush*, perhaps invest in a real one and try 'displacing' your sensations outward?)

How open/comfortable is your partner with it all?
maybe they could try doing what I used to do to the boys in my ex-gf's system?
their body was a tad desensitized down there, and they had a strong pain threshhold, which made it easy to not hurt them, but I'd take it and put enough suction to stretch it about an inch out and then work it as much like a 'real' one as i could. i never tried it on any of the girls, but the boys seems to like it enough. :p

hope that helps any.
Tia

PS:

[spookshow-girl.livejournal.com]

Since you felt nervous about posting this, I just wanted to say, kudos for taking the leap and posting it anyway.

--Me

[mysidia-system.livejournal.com]

Thank you for sharing this with me. I thought I should give you a personal response since you were nervous about posting. I appreciate the advice. I will try what you suggested with confusing myself so that my sensations line up. I will also look into buying a toy like you suggested, as well as the other toys different posters mentioned.

My partner is very comfortable with all of this. We'll see what works.

Thank you again Tia.

Cody

[20splinters.livejournal.com]

Geesh! Here I am going through the archives for cross-gender multiple issues, looking for stuff about "passing" as male in public, and I come across you guys!

Seriously though, that technique did work on the other boys in here. Pity I'm "miswired" and that probably wouldn't work on me. Oh well. There's always the restraints and riding crop technique that works pretty well for me! Endorphin rush + adrenaline rush is in some ways more intense than sexual orgasm!

- Troy

Then there is the possibility

[antigoneschase.livejournal.com]

of using psionic energy to create a penis and having sex with it as every guy in my system (and my spouse's system) do...

Collin (of Iriock)

[mysidia-system.livejournal.com]

Thank you all for your responses. I will check out the communities you recommended and I will try exploring and seeing how things work for me. The suggestions and support of seeing that others know how I feel is appreciated!

We'll see what happens. -grin-

Cody