[identity profile] weare.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
I hoe i's OK to post this here. A recent post on here brought up a good point. There aren't any communities for parents who are multiple. So, I decided to finally create one. [livejournal.com profile] didparents Let me know what you think. :)

EDIT: Very good points...I changed it. So, now it's [livejournal.com profile] plural_parents. Sorry for any inconvenience and/or offense.

Date: 2005-07-12 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newmoon17.livejournal.com


Well, I do not think I much like the DID part of the name.

Date: 2005-07-12 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgoyle.livejournal.com
I don't think many people will but you can't have the word multiple in it because of all the groups that use the term multiple to refer to multiple births. Some people in a search may think it is for parents of twins, triplets, etc. *shrugs* some people may not read the user info before looking at the posts

Date: 2005-07-12 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spookshow-girl.livejournal.com
It might make it easier on people if the info reflected that aspect of the naming scheme. The blurb comes closer. Personally, although I understand your motivation, I'm more inclined to say that they should pay attention before they join.

Of course, it can be a moderator nightmare. She runs a mailing list for alternative lifestylers, which has an explicit no personals/pron policy, and there is a constant stream of people who don't get it.

In any case, kudos for taking the time.

--Me

Date: 2005-07-12 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melange-fiesta.livejournal.com
I was thinking the same thing, about the DID... that multiples usually hate any mention of the disorder.

I don't see why you shouldn't just call it pluralparents or something. If people misinterpret and check out your community, maybe they can actually become informed about multiplicity. *shrug*

Date: 2005-07-12 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melange-fiesta.livejournal.com
Oh, and I honestly think that if you were going to use any "disorder" in the name, it should be MPD. MPD is the exact description of being a multiple, with the exception that it views multiplicity as a disorder that needs to be cured instead of a functional way of life.

Date: 2005-07-12 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melange-fiesta.livejournal.com
Umm... well, I take back the "exact" part. It talks about "alters" who are one-dimensional, which is also not what multiplicity is about.

Date: 2005-07-12 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bekkle.livejournal.com
I think anyone who is already aware of multiplicity (which is exacly the audience that the community is aimed towards) will be aware of DID and MPD being (however inaccurate) 'synonyms' to that attribute, at least as far as naming communities goes. Plus, it's the only one of its kind, so the person will inevitably look at the userinfo/kinds of questions posted in the community and learn that the people involved aren't the kind that enforce MPD/DID stereotypes.

Unless someone decides to make 'pluralparents' and everyone switches over, I don't see a problem with the political correctness of the community name.

Date: 2005-07-12 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amethystrse.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't think the "mental health community" quite has it yet. I personally don't feel it's a true disorder as most multiples function just as well if not better than singles. So, for me DID/MPD are just general terms. *shrugs* To quote one of Mel's favorite authors "A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet"

Date: 2005-07-14 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] szczur-system.livejournal.com
Haha, this is going to sound really stupid, but I was going to say, 'WOW! [livejournal.com profile] amethystrse looks like you!' Hahaha >.

Date: 2005-07-12 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
The "D" in DID and MPD stand for "disorder". If you do not feel it is truly a disorder, why use those terms and sell out to the mental health industry's view of us?

Good luck with the community, though. I'm beginning to think the more plural communities (on Livejournal and elsewhere), the better, as they bring that much more visibility.

Date: 2005-07-12 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Well, the DSM-IIIR information on MPD did not mention one-dimensional alters; it said "The existence within the person of two or more distinct personalities or personality states . . . [each having] a relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and one's self. . . . At least two of the personalities, at some time and recurrently, take full control of the person’s behavior." It didn't even mention child abuse as a diagnostic criterion. "For a diagnosis of MPD there must be present two or more distinct personalities. Each must have a relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self. At least 2 personalities must recurrently take full control of the person's behavior. In the diagnostic process, a continuum is often used ranging from "fragment" (an ego state with a consistent sense of self and pattern of behavior) to "personality" (with a much more full range of function, emotion, and history). For MPD there should be at least 2 more fully structured and developed personalities."

So if not exact, it is at least closer than DID.

Date: 2005-07-12 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Please look at the community info when you are concerned about whether or not something you wish to post is appropriate:
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=multiplicity

It says under Netiquette:
Offtopic posts are allowed. Please keep them short. Announcing a new community, whether or not it's multiplicity-related, is okay.

In other news, I agree with the comment saying you might have called it plural_parents -- there are communities called plural_living and plural_watching. This would encompass both people who have (or think of themselves as having) MPD or DID, and people like [livejournal.com profile] elenbarathi who is a parent who has neither disorder.

Date: 2005-07-13 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Y'welcome! Good luck!

The more communities, Andy says, that's that much more visibility!

Date: 2005-07-12 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowechoes.livejournal.com
"plural_parents" sounds better to us too.

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