quick question...

[wolfcubbie.livejournal.com]

Has anyone on this community offered help to the littles, or ASKED them questions, concerning the way they talk? I mean, I've been reading the posts here, and decided to make a journal so I could comment on them.

It really bothers me that people are getting so frustrated, uncomfortable, and generally pissed off at the littles' posts. First, let me say, why can't the littles post too? they have something to say like everyone else. And I noticed, they have sense enough(just like I did when I was little)to know when to post in their personal journal, and when to post in the communities, just need some help getting their thoughts across...

WHY WON'T ANYONE OFFER THEM THE HELP THAT YOU PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THEY NEED?

yeah, I know sometimes lilspeak is fake, I know that. But, sometimes it's not. and no one else seems to know the difference.

I do. I'm gonna make a new community. I'm gonna ask Rick to help(because he's out more than me) like he helped me spell and LEARN TO SPELL when I was a little kid. I'm gonna make a community for littles that are frustrated at bigs not taking them seriously. For littles that want to be heard, but can't seem to get their thoughts across right. For littles who want help spelling better, and talking better on the internet. I'll let you know the name when I do it.

cubbie
Pack Collective

Comments

[shandra.livejournal.com]

Well, to take your question seriously - I really haven't seen anyone saying that kids shouldn't post. In fact I thought I saw some kids responding in the first lilspeak thread quite well. :)

I do agree that there is some frustration about how they post though. But I think mostly the talk has been about that generally and not about shutting kids up completely.

I *do* know why I don't ask kids why they talk the way they do - because I wouldn't ask real life kids "why did you pick 'ain't' up from your aunt!!" It's not their responsibility to answer that kind of question.

It seems to me kind of mean to go and ask a little multiple-system-kid something like "you typed double 'a's and 'i's and that's not something a kid your age would do if they had their own body so why do you?"

I think most kids would rightly say "I don't know. But I don't like you!" in response. Which - I know you're 12, which is more pre-teen than kid, but that's kind of the reaction you're having.

I am admiring that your response to that anger is to start a community to change things - good for you.

For the help - I would pretty much never offer to help another system's kid unless specifically asked. To me that's being rude to the adults in the system, who presumably are the ones that can decide if help is needed/wanted and do something about it.

Although actually in another community I did point someone at this link, which is good for spelling:

http://www.eduplace.com/kids/hmsv/smg/

But I only point it out 'cause you asked (and the same where I posted it before). I'm not personally *bothered* much by either poor spelling or Lilspeak, although sometimes I do skip those posts if I'm tired.

But I do think it's good for systems to talk about the choice to encourage or discourage lilspeak and talk about it.

[justmalea.livejournal.com]

I *do* know why I don't ask kids why they talk the way they do - because I wouldn't ask real life kids "why did you pick 'ain't' up from your aunt!!" It's not their responsibility to answer that kind of question.

dude, my parents and teachers and general adults that i knew asked me those kinds of questions ALL THE TIME when i was little... like, "do you know what that word means?" or "you should say 'can't' instead of 'cain't'" etc... while you are techincally not their parent, you are still a guardian and it actually IS your responsibility to teach them... i mean, assuming that you want to teach them... *shrug* i'm just assuming that you do, but if you don't, that's fine too, i was just assuming...

and as far as pointing it out to other systems kids, you're right, it's not your "responsibility", but cubbie didn't start the community out of "responsibility" or because he was angry, (which you assumed incorrectly), he started it because he wants to help those that ask for it... to me, it sounds like you are kinda saying that "it's not MY job to teach my kid sex-ed, they'll learn that from school"... i know that's an extreme example, but i think you can understand what i'm saying...

[shandra.livejournal.com]

Well, considering people felt negated by a very *general* comment about lilspeak, I think not asking individual kids was a good idea. :)

I'm actually saying "it's not my job to teach sex ed to *other* people's kids." Which I think is true. Saying that X system's kids should be managed by X system's adults is not the same as saying to learn it in school - it's saying to let _that system_ decide what's a priority, and when.

[shandra.livejournal.com]

And, just as a point - I didn't assume he was angry. His mood was set to "pissed off." So it was stated. :-)