[identity profile] crystalhellion.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Forgive me, but this is something I must ask, since we seem to be in the midst of one.

What is the evolution of a system? What does it mean? What happens?

- Celeste

Date: 2005-05-13 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chainsaw-hime.livejournal.com
I will try to describe some of this system's own evolutions as best as I can, although it really doesn't translate very well into words.

A few weeks ago, Gina Delta made a Wish, a very powerful but also quite subtle warping of reality, designed to either counteract the effects of something in the past, or to make fewer potential deviations in the near future. One of the effects of it was that she remembered some more details from a past that had been blocked off to her. But I received more than just data, I received alot of knowledge about my lives before the age of 20. One of the things I remembered was why I was assigned as the protector of this body, as well as why I only interacted with people when I absolutely had to. This knowledge did much more to me than I could have imagined. You may not recall any of my posts from prior, but I am using first-person pronouns now, something I hadn't done since age 18, when I had to operate the body alone when it was in the Marines, in an environment where only third-person could be used: Drill Instructor So and so, or Recruit this-and-that. Never a me, a you, or an I. But when I realized that, something changed in me. I realized my value as a separate entity, and as one who has been protecting the body for at least ten years (likely more, but even my memories are blurry beyond a certain point). Gina Delta started singing as I was describing this situation, I think the song works very well to describe a system's evolution.

"You're Aging Well"
Words and music by Dar Williams


Why is it that as we grow older and stronger
The road signs point us adrift and make us afraid
Saying 'You never can win,' 'Watch your back,' 'Where's your
husband?'
Oh I don't like the signs that the signmakers made.

So I'm going to steal out with my paint and brushes
I'll change the directions, I'll hit every street
It's the Tinseltown scandal, the Robin Hood vandal
She goes out and steals the King's English
And in the morning you wake up and the signs point to you

They say
'I'm so glad that you finally made it here,'
'You thought nobody cared, but I did, I could tell,'
And 'This is your year,' and 'It always starts here,'
And oh-oh oh-oh-oh oh-oh, 'You're aging well.'

Well I know a woman with a collection of sticks
She could fight back the hundreds of voices she heard
And she could poke at the greed, she could fend off her need
And with anger she found she could pound every word.
But one voice got through, caught her up by surprise
It said, 'Don't hold us back we're the story you tell,'
And no sooner than spoken, a spell had been broken
And the voices before her were trumpets and tympani
Violins, basses and woodwinds and cellos, singing

'We're so glad that you finally made it here
You thought nobody cared, but we did, we could tell
And now you'll dance through the days while the orchestra plays
And oh-oh oh-oh-oh oh-oh, you're aging well.'


Now when I was fifteen, oh I knew it was over
The road to enchantment was not mine to take
Cause lower calf, upper arm should be half what they are
I was breaking the laws that the signmakers made.

And all I could eat was the poisonous apple
And that's not a story I was meant to survive
I was all out of choices, but the woman of voices

She turned round the corner with music around her,
She gave me the language that keeps me alive, she said:

'I'm so glad that you finally made it here
With the things you know now, that only time could tell
Looking back, seeing far, landing right where we are
And oh-oh oh-oh-oh oh-oh, you're aging, oh oh-oh-oh oh-oh and I am aging,
oh oh-oh-oh oh-oh, aren't we aging well?'

Date: 2005-05-13 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-khailitha846.livejournal.com
Ahhh... thank you so much for the song. It dropped like a huge load of confetti and balloons right into the middle of Our circle, like an answer of some sort, or at least a sign.

I knew I liked Dar Williams. I've only heard "Are You Out There" and had already put her on my list. She's just jumped to the top.

*smiles and bows*

Date: 2005-05-13 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chainsaw-hime.livejournal.com
She's one of my favorites, tied for second with a japanese composer for the most number of their CD's I own.

But the two of them combined are less CD's than my number one.

Date: 2005-05-13 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-khailitha846.livejournal.com
What is the name of the CD this song is on? I'm going to go buy it. (That's the list she's jumped to the top of: music We're going to buy.)

And who is your number one?

Have you ever heard Kate Bush?

Date: 2005-05-14 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chainsaw-hime.livejournal.com
The CD is "The Honesty Room." It has a few others of her most loved songs, such as "The Babysitter's Here," "When I Was A Boy," and the first two songs of her "Traveling" series (though my favorite "Traveling" song is the third one, on "Mortal City").

I have five of her CD's: "The Honesty Room," "Mortal City," "The Green World," "End Of The Summer," and "The Beauty of the Rain."


She's tied for second in number of CDs I own with a japanese composer named Nobuo Uematsu. If you've played any of the "Final Fantasy" video games, you've heard some of his work.

And that, combined, totals to ten, which is less than the twelve Manowar CD's I own. Manowar is a metal band that has seen all of us through some very tough times in our lives. And returning the tangent to the original topic, there was enough energy in the very air at a Manowar concert that Gina Alpha was able to use its power as a catalyst to evolve into Gina Beta. Got one of their songs playing right now: "Battle Hymns." *smiles*

Date: 2005-05-13 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eridanusus.livejournal.com
Last time we had an evolution, I had my emotions wiped and one of the kids had her memory wiped. And she got a twin brother.

I think there was an evolution round the age of 13 too, when all the people who'd been out before went inside and new fronters were created, including me, Chris and Sophie.

Usually it's just a change. A fairly major change, but not necessarily bad.

Date: 2005-05-13 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shatterstorm.livejournal.com
Life without change is nothing living. Ride the wave!

Date: 2005-05-13 01:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-05-13 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharpsight.livejournal.com
...interesting...

Opened this thread with a reply in mind, but now suspect that we/I do not understand the term correctly in this context.

...I could rabbit on for a quarter of an hour about words and definitions and suggestions of assumptions, or just say that I don't have a clue...

Deliberately initiated [from the point of view of the observer]? Undeliberately initiated? For whatever reasons, change happens.

All one can do is try one's best, to make the best choices available, and not make the choices that aren't one's to make.

Keep an open mind, and try to strive for whichever end result you feel is worth striving for? That's all we have to offer; just general advice, no specific information--or, as Markus might say, data.

There, we know little more than you.

Date: 2005-05-13 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Since change is a constant, it stands to reason (Iris' favourite phrase!) that multiple systems, like any other group of people, change over time as the people do. What will happen depends on the group, the individuals in it, your other circumstances, a lot of things.

Great icon btw.

Date: 2005-05-13 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
It means a different thing for every system. For us, there was an evolution in finding out which people had been kind of artificially 'stuck together,' what was one person and what was another person. For another system it might mean the opposite-- joining together. If system members appear or depart, that can be an evolution too.

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