[identity profile] gryphons.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Greetings all,
we have a question... and I realize this probably isn't a nice way to introduce ourselves.. first short intro is in order I suppose. We're Gryphon Household (Gryphons).. there's about 50 of us .. at least the active ones(well there were).. ummm.. My name's Micah-el.. and I'm sorta the default frontperson.. at least right now.. We sorta had a major meltdown a few weeks ago.. that left only one person around.. nobody else would come near the front.. and he couldn't talk to anyone (internally we mean) .. Considering the size of our house.. to say that things didn't go well would be an understatement.Right now there are like 3 adults and two kids around.. but things are pretty much wrecked. . This is the second time in a little over a year that something like this has occured.

Now to the question/request for advice:
Any advice about how to get people to come back out.. find them/help them get back on their feet would be greatly appreciated.. We don't have a t right now.. (long story).. so we're doing everything on our own.

Date: 2005-03-03 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] changelyng14.livejournal.com
hmmm...

we believe contact with the front is related to our survival.
we occaisionally use tricks one might consider vulgar, but its a forced switch that may or may not be voluntary.
works differently for each of us but we start by abusing any of their triggers they might have.
our rebel rockstar for example, we pop on headphones and start blasting music.
if theyve personalized any clothes we wear them. then start in one acting as if we are them. start thought trains in the way they'd think. fall 'into character'. (we have experience in method acting)
sometimes we just think about them and express a desire to have them show and they do soon enough.

I dont know how ya'll communicate, but it gets us temporarily back in communication and has saved more then one of us from going potentially long-term sublevel.

We've also pretty much figured out already who appreciates it and who finds it rude.

Date: 2005-03-04 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
We do the same thing. If someone in particular needs to be up front for something, we think of it actually as a courtesy to play that person's favourite music or cook something he likes to eat.

Date: 2005-03-03 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginedlight.livejournal.com
We've had someone nearly fading out completely for along time. We used to be able to call him back by talking to certain people, thinking about certain things, sometimes Rivvi would log into his journal account and step back (for a long time those two were the only ones who were aware of each other, so they're a lot closer than any of us), sometimes she would start writing things down on the computer dialouge-style with him.... but none of it seems to have called him back permanently. Sometimes he'll speak up or say something. I remember the other day when I was in front and looking for something to wear, I found one of his shirts that I like and kind of got a smile out of him, but most of the time it's like he's not even there. It's kind of scary, actually... Sometimes when someone else wants my attention, they'l eat my favorite food, and that usually works. Good luck to you. I hope things get better.

Date: 2005-03-04 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Probably better that way.. therapists never were much on assisting with the technicalities of operating systems.

And welcome.

Date: 2005-03-04 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] changelyng14.livejournal.com
Yo from Candy
I have trouble all the time, and I've never heard any split claim that getting the face hurts. like, 'ouch thats painful' hurts.
I'm new though and I try not to mix with these people any more then I gotta, but Ive had days where all my effort, and all the effort of one of our stronger dudes took two hours to get me fronted.
They're nominating me for face if I could get my endurance up a bit cuzza what I'm here to do. (basically be a non-lazy-sofa-vidiot)

I figure I get here cuz I want to, even if stuff's pretty lame lately.
Im better off then our guy who can only front if theres an adrenaline rush in progress.
I got out today cuz we went to an art show. I sold my first piece of art too (got a quarter when I only wanted a nickel, WOOO!)

I dunno, try imagining a shovel then beating the lazy bastiches with it until they get back up?
From: [identity profile] we-4.livejournal.com
IF YOU READ THIS PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECTLY. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS. AND ABOUT MY WEBPAGE THAT IS NOT JUST FOR ME BUT FOR OTHERS AS WELL.

We 4 Would like to say hello to start out with. And let you all know we got a webpage that my Husband made for us and our friends that have loved ones or are MPD/DID. here is the site please check it out.
http://savannahangel.blogspot.com/

I have read alot of the post that the members here have had to say and agree with some and not others. But would love to talk to all that would like to talk to us.

There was one that I need to comment on... the ones about if MPD/DID is "natural" or not.

I think we are born with the ability to do what ever we want. The mind is a very powerful tool that we use everyday. And there was a few people down on MPD/DID cause they were what we are. Why???? It is not a bad thing. God made us this way for a reason and we went threw the things we have for a reason. We need to make the best of it. People call up friends and loved ones ie. Mom and Dad. To help when they are going threw something that is very upsetting to them. We are just special people we dont have to run up phone bills. We make our own loved ones in our heads. This is a good thing, we dont have to wait when they are off work, or not busy with the kids, or the life parnter. They are with us at all times. I take confort in haveing mine. My therapist said that she could " get rid of" them. WHY??? They are a part of me. A part that for what ever reason I needed. Dont get me wrong I know this is not the norm. But does it make it wrong? I dont think so just differnt. We make "alter" cause there is something in our life that we SO GREAT that it took more than one to deal with.Sometimes out of shook, sometimes out of emotions, good or bad. But that is ok. I have talked with alot of MPD/DID online and a few in person and you know what? We are normal people with the same problems as others. Just there is more of us inside and that means more problems and more ways to get hurt or loved. If I on way off base here please let me know. But God loves us and I love each other you for the person you are even if I dont like you. And PLEASE dont get me wrong I am not a bible banger. But i do belive in God and he is great and an inportant part of my life. I also live in the real world and this is the year 2005. So screw who ever dont want to take time to know us. It is their lose not ours.

Love to you and your System from me and mine.

We 4

*puts his mod hat on*

Date: 2005-03-08 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
If you want to participate in this community, you should sign up and probably make some kind of introductory post, instead of introducing yourself in a thread about an unrelated topic. If you're looking for contacts in this community, you'd have better luck making a new post instead of one in an older thread, where fewer members are likely to notice it.

Re: *puts his mod hat on*

Date: 2005-03-09 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] we-4.livejournal.com
I am haveing a hard time useing this site. if there is ways that could help me please tell me? I dont want to offend anyone. I do want to do things the wright way. Thanks for the info
Te'a
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
BTW, one more thing I should point out: If you type in all caps, it's considered shouting. People tend to be put off by it.
From: [identity profile] we-4.livejournal.com
Dear Shiu,

Thank you for answeing me message. i will remember the cap letter thang. I did not mean for it to come off that way. Question please? Did you go and look at the other webpage i got as well and see what you think about it? I have been very sick the last month but the flu. so I have not been on alot.

Te'a

Here is how to contact us...

Date: 2005-03-05 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] we-4.livejournal.com
Sorry I forgot to put my e-mail and such..,

Savannah_Angel_3@hotmail.com

savannah_n_angel@yahoo.com

We have the messageners for both, or you can e-mail us at the yahoo one.

My name is Te'a. I am the host the of We 4

Date: 2005-03-05 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
we too are about 50 or so, though we have different issues based on our set up....but we do force it sometimes, but at least once a week we have a meeting, children and all, and we talk of what is best to keep the body safe. We talk out issues including frontal approaches.

Date: 2005-03-07 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shatterstorm.livejournal.com
We had something like that about a month ago. Something happened that scared most of the people near the front badly enough that they wouldn't talk or come out. Fortunately we were in a safe place. It was a couple hours before one of our adults checked and realized that all the usual people were gone. Rose held the front for several days (and was exhausted) until we could get with one of our friends who's a therapist. The friend talked us thru what happened that evening until we got enough communication going to realize what scared everybody and then helped us work thru the experience.

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