[identity profile] whisperedones.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
For the most part, Our little group (little compared to some of the people We know anyway) does well... We're pretty together... until this time of year rolls around and the sinus infections start.

That's when everyone decides "Hey, let's ignore the Earth/3d/Whatever body and just let it rot and suffer" and usually Fihel or Ruby or Ice end up having to tool along with the infection until it clears up. Enter Tanston. "Whoa girl, where'd you come from?" Yeah, my point exactly.

What I need, basically, is some suggestions. Here is the given though- There are no "host(s)" per se. It's usually someone likes to front a lot, and then someone else wants to, etc. But if you were to ask for the main person, you'd hear crickets chirping.

Actually, I just wanted to whine where people would see it and say "Oh, you poor thing, I hope you feel better soon" XD

But yes, suggestions are welcome, aside from kicking other people up front and saying "You deal with it" which seems to work... sort of.

Why yes, I am terribly doped up on Benadryl. Can you tell?

-Tanston

P.S.- I am well aware this is abnormally lighthearted... but why not, I say? There has to be some laughter as well as tears in any community! Also note that I am under the influence of Benadryl. I blame it on that.

Date: 2004-12-14 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] he-dreams-awake.livejournal.com
Oh, you poor thing, I hope you feel better soon! XD.

No, actually, I do. *hugs you randomly, even though he doesn't know you.* And since we've been having this exact same problem, I couldn't NOT respond to this. The body's been seriously ill with a series of infections, and I'm supposed to be taking mega-antibiotics for it, etc. etc., and yet... I don't. Because I, who fronts normally, simply don't pay attention to the symptoms unless and until they interfere with MY work -- and then, often as not, I just slog something down to kill the symptoms and go right on working.

I've been told by someone who cares a lot about me that I'm eventually going to wind up killing the body this way. But it never seems to sink in.

My advice? For what it's worth, I'd say try relating whatever health problems you have to the people in question, if there's inter[intra-? Ergh]system communication. Meaning? Well, what works for me sometimes as a last-ditch is trying to make myself pay attention to the fact that it's MY body -- meaning, not a body I'm using, but the one I'm supposed to have. And if I work it into my sense of self-awareness, somehow, it gets easier. Augh. That made NO sense.

*headdesks, frustrated.* I think what I mean is, I come from... a different place. And sometimes if I make myself believe that I'm ill there, it gets easier to pay attention to it. For some people it's Headspace, for other people it's something different... but if I think, "Well, I've got to repair the body to do what I have to do", then I tend to be a little more responsible about it.

Having friends/SOs/acquaintances who are multiple/understand that you are is a great blessed help, too -- they can say things to you that get through on YOUR level, not just what they see as the "host".

Did that help at all? If not, ignore it completely please. *overtired.* But for what it's worth, **powerhugs** DO feel better soon. I'm on my third sinus infection this year, so I can relate. *sends mental chicken soup and a vaporizer.* If you want to rant, I'm around anytime.

Date: 2004-12-14 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] he-dreams-awake.livejournal.com
[I have to correct myself, for people who've heard me "whine" in my journal about the symptoms. I mean, obviously I notice them, but somewhere in my mind is a tripwire that just makes me unable to remember to take care of them. I'll sit here and write lines of code until five A.M., and never once think that I should take thirty seconds, get up, and swallow the antibiotics. That it's as important as what I'm doing right then. Or I'll sit here with the medication in front of me and just not care enough to take it. Stuff like that. So yeah, before you comment and tell me I "do too pay attention to them", that's not what I meant.

*grins and shakes head.* Sorry if that was even more confusing.]

Date: 2004-12-15 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Happens to me all the time and I'm supposed to be Mr. Responsibility. Hah! Not at four in the morning!

Date: 2004-12-15 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniakitty.livejournal.com
make myself pay attention to the fact that it's MY body -- meaning, not a body I'm using, but the one I'm supposed to have.

We have problems with that >_< I'm the only one that considers the body my own, and so the others generally have the mindset of "Oh it's not really my body, so it doesn't matter what happens to it." News flash! It's the only body you've got! But yeah, it gets frustrating since some of them refuse to accept this.

Date: 2004-12-14 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
Oh, you poor thing. I hope you feel better soon. *hugs*

We've got no "host" or any of that either, and have had two bouts of separate nasty illness in the past month, so I can relate a lot to what you're saying. Kír's the most responsible one of us, but unfortunately he has some major difficulties with taking corporeal form ("fronting", as people say) and being sick makes it a whole lot worse, so we're not willing for him to put himself through that. Crist-Erui's the strongest, but the least responsible; when we're sick he tends to just curl up in bed, and sometimes doesn't remember to eat or drink - he won't take any sort of medicine, either, not even the good-tasting herbal kind.

I don't like being sick any more than anyone else does, but I've got both the strength and the sense to take care of us, so... *shrugs*. Kír actually does help a lot, even when he can't take form, because he can persuade his twin to move back and let me come up when necessary, and Crist-Erui's 'solidity' is very comforting when just staying in bed is the reasonable option. We all try to look after one another, in our various ways, and mostly manage all right.

A lot of the problems I see in multiple Houses ("systems") seem to stem from people in them acting like random housemates in a month-to-month rental rather than as family members and permanent co-owners of the physical body. If you think about it, "Hey, let's ignore the Earth/3d/Whatever body and just let it rot and suffer" is a lot like "Oh, the roof's leaking? The toilet's broken? Hey, not my problem!" - only worse, because a new physical body is a lot harder to obtain than a new rental house, and the people sharing that body probably don't really have the option of moving out and going to live somewhere else.

Therefore my suggestion would be to do whatever it takes to start acting like family to one another, rather than housemates. I realize this may be easier said than done, but the truth is, your body's not going to be 22 forever, and the consequences of not taking good care of it won't be fun to live with as time goes by, so... a House meeting, perhaps, and an honest discussion of what needs to be done so you can all enjoy a healthy body? If the less-responsible ones can't understand the necessity, maybe the more-responsible ones can band together and find ways to persuade them to cooperate, or at least not hinder.

Good luck, and I hope you're all well very soon!

Date: 2004-12-14 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] he-dreams-awake.livejournal.com
This is not only excellent advice, but it almost made me cry. Yeah, I'm a total wuss today.

I'm going to take this advice. So thanks.

Date: 2004-12-14 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
*huggles* You're welcome!

Date: 2004-12-15 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Oh, you poor thing! As an asthmatic with ghastly allergies, I deeply sympathise and hope you will feel better soon! (hugs you)

In our system, it's the body that has the illnesses; whoever's out must handle them. All of us have different ways of doing so, and some of us tend to handle certain conditions more than others.

Jason will come up when we have back trouble, something we've been having altogether too much of lately. Partly, this is because he has back trouble in his own body, and he knows how to deal with it.

Gabriel has pollen allergies; he drinks strong coffee, takes claritin and keeps right on going.

I've had pulmonary tuberculosis in my own body, and am still asthmatic as hell. Lung trouble in the earth body tends to bring me out, where I will promptly tend to same via black tea with a tablet or two of sugar and relaxing with hot towels on my chest. A combination of Sudafed and Bronkaid also tends to work for us when we have allergies that cause bronchial congestion.

As a member of the healers' council it is now incumbent upon me to say a few words about making sure you drink enough water -- most people do not, you should have eight 8-oz. glasses per day. Be sure that this is distilled or otherwise purified water; don't drink gick out of the tap. Herbs such as milk thistle and goldenseal are excellent for helping your body process and dispose of toxins. A daily megavitamin (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00014FM0S/002-8792973-3882449?v=glance&n=10223261&s=merchant&m=A26XED0S1E7AO) is a good idea. Good health to you!

(Jay adds: "Main person? We don't need no steenkin' main person....") :D

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