[identity profile] angelusstrigoi.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Well today I came upon some new info. Something that helped to explain a lot about me. I was thinking I had a soulbond because I didn't quite understand the multiple stuff. But someone led me to a site that explained it. And I can definitely say I am a multiple. I am also a median and currently am hosting one very old soul named Lilith. Also one of my multiples is an otherkin. So this is Angelus, Kim, Tiger, and The Child saying hi to everyone for the first time as their own separate recognizes entities.

Date: 2004-12-09 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
Well, I'm not so much challenging what Angelus is saying--what's true for you is true for you, as the saying goes--as much as I'm trying to figure out what sort of conversation we're having.

I still feel like I'm lost in the shoals somewhere. I've never felt 'multiple personalities' equals 'hosting spirits'. One thing's one thing, the other thing's the other thing. Maybe I'm being intransigent, but words have to mean something or they have no value.

I also don't quite buy that muses are soulbonds, either, but then, maybe that's me, too. I have muses, and they nag me, but they are not real. I know they are not real. Any power they have over my actions--which is mostly in the realm of, getting me to write things--is power I've given them. So I don't understand that term either.

Maybe I'm at the point where I just smile politely, and back away slowly out of the conversation.

Date: 2004-12-10 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
No, not at all, I got that. And it's good to identify terms, to identify who and what you are--I mean, ultimately, that's your call, your answer, but it's also nice to have terminology that supports your conclusions.

It's just, the various terms in this thread have been all sorts of confusing. :)

Date: 2004-12-10 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
I still feel like I'm lost in the shoals somewhere. I've never felt 'multiple personalities' equals 'hosting spirits'. One thing's one thing, the other thing's the other thing. Maybe I'm being intransigent, but words have to mean something or they have no value.

I also don't quite buy that muses are soulbonds, either, but then, maybe that's me, too. I have muses, and they nag me, but they are not real. I know they are not real. Any power they have over my actions--which is mostly in the realm of, getting me to write things--is power I've given them. So I don't understand that term either.


I have to say that you appear to be confusing our and [livejournal.com profile] ksol1460's personal beliefs with the beliefs held by other people which we are reporting and describing. I can tell you that we, at least, certainly don't necessarily believe that mediumship equals multiple personality, or that characters you talk to are muses. When I say "some people call it this," I'm not saying "this is what I believe." In fact, in some cases, my beliefs are quite divergent.

All I'm doing is telling everyone what I've discovered other people believe, or the terminology I've noticed them using. I have no idea how people came to associate the concept of muses with talking to characters. I can't tell you why, so don't ask me "how do you figure"! You would have to ask the people who use the term that way if you want to know how they use it. This is not me giving my personal beliefs here. I'm just telling you what I've seen.

I apologise if this is a little curt, but I do get pretty annoyed when I'm trying to explain what a certain group of people believe, and have it automatically assumed that these are my beliefs as well. I do understand that you're trying to get all the terminology straight, but as far as terminology I don't use personally, I honestly do not know why it was chosen by others. Again, you'd have to ask them.

Date: 2004-12-10 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
*blinks*

Look. I'm not assuming any people here believe in the validity of the terms that are under debate, because not a one of you--save for Angelus, who has since changed terminology--has said "I believe this". And almost everyone has referred me to some article or other, [livejournal.com profile] ksol1460 going so far as to email me their definitions page because LJ was apparently coughing that day.

Since I'd never heard 'median' before two days ago, and had an entirely different definition for 'soulbond', I think my confusion is understandable. And I think I've been as polite as possible when folks are tossing me words that don't mean what I've held them to mean for more than ten years.

I will grant you, this phrase:

Okay. Take three. Muses are soulbonds? How the hell do you figure?

was a tad abrupt, but you answered it calmly, it gave me more to think about, and I thought that end of the thread had tapered to a close.

So, what, you thought about it and then got upset? Why?

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