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[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

*sigh*

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[ex-kiota.livejournal.com]

*random snug* What's wrong?

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

I didn't intend for my post to turn into a bashing zone.

[elenbarathi.livejournal.com]

*hugs* I'm sorry. If it hadn't been for her whole thing about all of us being "so lame that we have to pretend to be other people to share the lameness", I might have let her slide... but that she would say that, then come here with her little "F*ck You" icon and jump on your case like that, was just unacceptable.

It's your post; if you want to delete all the, uh, "controversial" comments, that's okay with me - just give me a couple minutes to save my own.

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

No, you have a right to say what you feel.. I won't delete them.. I only wish that there was a "safe" place to talk sometimes..

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

All our journals are locked "friends only".. we want to be able to share our lives with others so they can see what being Multiple is like.. but we've had to lock them because of people like the ones that have visited here.. sometimes we post some of our entries in this forum, hoping to find like-minded people or have other opinions and advice.. sometimes I wonder if it's worth it.. if it's just better to be a recluse..

[elenbarathi.livejournal.com]

I wish there was too. Mine's not locked, but about half my posts to it are friends-only... months ago, me bro locked his completely after the incident with the young shrink lurking around, and asked me to take down my post to your thread (about relationships) when the troll showed up in it.

I don't like trolls, and I said straight-out that this one ought to be banned, but it looks like there wasn't anyone around to do it. Ohh well. Possibly a lesson or two got learned, though I kinda doubt it.

Don't be a recluse, hon; you have good things to share. huggles*

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

I won't be a recluse.. just makes me lose a little bit of faith in people sometimes.. but I'll get over it.. *hugs*

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

If I can get the admin password from ksol1460, we can close/delete the thread at our earliest convenience. Want us to do that? (They're traveling right now and can't access the Internet, but I can reach them by phone. I would not normally try to usurp admin privileges.)

I apologise if I contributed to the general inflammatory atmosphere. I do, perhaps misguidedly, try to see examples of ignorance and misinformation as potential opportunities to educate people, which is why I tried not to go into all-out flaming. I'm not sure how worth it it actually was in this instance, though.

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

Closed would be good.. there were some good replies to my original post, that would be a shame if they were deleted..

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

Just ignore it. It's a shame that your entry had to become the staging ground for that. I hope it doesn't put you off posting here.

[el-gremmo.livejournal.com]

Selenesh is right. Don't let anyone or anything discourage you from speaking your mind and sharing your thoughts.

- Gremlyn

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

It won't.. I'll still be around..

[princesstoots.livejournal.com]

I ran over to kick some butt, but saw I didn't need to. Can't have people messing with my Sweetie!

stupid trolls. Next one's dead for sure!

{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

**warm hugs** Love you!!!

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

I too am sorry to have seen such action go on in that thread. Unfortunate but you have others on here who do support you & enjoy your writing(s), kasiawhisper. I know I am one of the ones who enjoys reading what you post. I don't know anyone on here well and have only what people post here to judge them by & from what I've seen, your systems people are pretty nice on the whole.

One of these days I'll have to post My own thread hehe...I just keep replying. ;) Maybe I'll get bashed like you have been & thus lose My lj comm virginity?

Tatiana

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

Thank you! Hopefully, that won't happen to you.. *hugs*

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

We want to apologise; we left for three days to visit family, without having appointed someone to keep an eye on things in here in case something happened. That's our responsibility.

Shiu of sethrenn volunteered to be backup admin, but inasmuch as sethrenn are our spouse it might appear to be favoritism on our part, not to mention making it look like we were pushing a particular agenda, since many of sethrenn and we share similar views.

Again, I would like to take our case to the readership; would you mind Shiu as backup admin, or would you choose one from among you?

Jay Young & Andy Temple
(minus our usual icons due to impoverishment)

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

don't apologize for going away.. it's okay.. I just wasn't expecting it to get as out of hand as it did.. I realize that it all wasn't directed completely at my post and that some of the tensions came from elsewhere, just sucked that it happened where it did..

I wouldn't mind having more staff members, if that's what you're proposing..

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Very little of the discussion we saw had anything to do with anything you said. The offenders posted to your thread possibly because non-members can't start new posts, only comment to existing ones.

There will be an assistant maintainer; our only question is, does anyone object to Shiu of sethrenn being that assistant, due to our relationship and similarity of views? If so, would people feel like suggesting someone else? Perhaps we should ask this question in a separate post.

Also:

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

I'm finding out how to close a post from further comments and will do so ASAP.

As for banning the persons in question; Their remarks elsewhere have been, to put it briefly, vile. On this community, at least sakura_shinra has stuck around. She has been somewhat less offensive, but insists on an unpopular and misinformed view of multiplicity.

I can't ban someone merely for having an unpopular opinion, or even for insisting that she's right, we're wrong. Many multiples, including many on this community, do feel they have a sickness and desire psychiatric intervention. In some cases they may be absolutely right.

I admit Andy and I were amused by her assertion that it's irresponsible and dangerous to have such an "open slather, unmoderated" community as this. However, does this in itself warrant a ban? If she doesn't like the community, she can of course leave. Or she can stay and learn something.

Again, I wish to go to the community for consensus. If she's willing to keep a civil tongue in her head on this community, do you feel that sakura_shinra should still be banned? Or do you feel that the things she's said in and/or out of the community warrant a ban? What about the others (binky_stunt_cat and uziel?

We want this community's members to feel that they can speak their minds here without intimidation or criticism from outsiders who are not willing to take time to educate themselves and understand the many different views that are here.

Jay Young, sans icon

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[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

I personally feel others have a right to voice their opinions.. it's just when their opinions become hostile and attacking that bothers me.. I know I felt uncomfortable when my post became a sort of war zone.. it makes me wonder if there are others who might be turned off from voicing their peace if they see how past entries were treated..

I'm not one to get involved in debates.. I don't like them.. but I do try to remain honest with my words and say what I feel..

Re: Also:

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

That's precisely what I meant in my last paragraph; we want community members to feel comfortable speaking their minds. Part of the reason I left the offtopic discussion in place was to give community members a chance to look at it and judge for themselves whether or not I should delete it.

Like you, we believe that everyone is entitled to an opinion, provided they voice it with respect for the views of others, and especially on this community. Because of that, and because of our work in liberating multiplicity from a single-track view, we'd like to give people who think we're mentally ill the benefit of the doubt and provide them with an education.

There is a lot of grey area, and we seek the help of the membership in determining what we should do in such situations.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

The discussion remains posted and we will not delete it unless we are asked to do so. We have left open the threads in which kasiawhisper's original subject was discussed rationally. We have frozen the threads started by sakura_shinra.

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

sounds good..

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

banning people who've stated an opinion (albeit perhaps not in the most constructive manner possible but still...) would only function (right word please?) to show we are as intolerant some of the rest of the world. How would that serve to put forward a viewpoint that is both tolerant & accepting of diversity as we should be *imo* simply due to the fact we are multiples (well most of us are...). I'm certain I'm not stating this very well here & I'm not the spokesperson for my House. However, My House shares this view: Banning someone for the recent little um discussion wouldn't serve any purpose but to show we can be as intolerant as alot of people we've met are to us.

We'd rather they be allowed to stay & if they show promise in learning so be it. If not fine but so long as they don't flame people for their differing opinions I/We see no reason they should be silenced. I/We hope that is a fair enough assessment of things.

*any & all typos & wrongly stated or badly structured sentences are Tatianas fault so don't blame the rest of us. :P ~Adriana*

Tatiana

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

That is what we would prefer also. Sure, there's a tolerance level, and we want it to be fairly high so that we can give people an education. We'd rather that people understand multiplicity. However, the remarks made by the offending parties in this community were hurtful, verging on flaming, and neither of us felt that the responses from community members to those remarks were inappropriate.

Also, it seems rather counterproductive to permit people to remain in the community who repeatedly claim that multiplicity does not exist and refuse to be convinced otherwise.

In any case, they seem to have left. If they return and wish to keep a civil tongue in their head and learn something, that is fine. If not, out they go.

Jay and Andy