Multiplicity

Why are you un-joining after posting?
That's the first time I've heard someone ask for all members of a household to stand up and introduce themselves. I have to say, I'm not sure that is terribly practical.
It isnt a matter of introducing 'cores', because many systems dont have 'em. We do write as a group, or even if there is one dominant writer at a given time, we prefer to just focus on what is being expressed.
If we were to introduce ourselves we would be blathering forth a list of almost twenty names, and that would doubtless not be the whole enchilada. Some systems have a hundred or more people, some thousands. And the names would only be names, without meaning.
A singlet isnt asked to give a perfect explanation of who they are at the moment they speak or write..
Not intending to be harsh with you..I was just struck by how difficult it would be to be accountable for who you are at every second..multiple or singlet. It would be a dull world indeed if we always had to be so dead certain of our identity.

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I didn't mean have everyone come forward and say hey. I just meant name some of the people in your systems that I might want to know of. There's no way I'd expect everyone to switch out a hundred times just to introduce themselves. Also, many systems DO have cores, yes? In the case of a group having them, I'm just saying that I'm curious. (I'm not trying to be defensive, heh, just explain myself. Have patience with the newbie!)
I guess I intended to unjoin because I didn't know if it were proper for a non-multiple to join the community. If it's okay with everyone, I'll stay in.

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Oh, sure it's proper. At least, I havent heard otherwise. Our boyfriend isnt multiple, and he has joined. Please feel free to stay.
Whoever is writing is too exhausted to be anything but amorphous..but let us say we are a gaggle of mostly mad girls, mostly in teens and early twenties, but ranging from roughly age two to thirty five. We are comprised of three families; an autistic and highly visionary family, a boozy, dramatic, self destructive and traumatized family, and a hermaphroditic, shamanistic, sort of stone ageish, faeryish family.
I'm not sure how many systems here consider themselves as having cores. It is a good question for the peanut gallery...ugh. Cant believe I said that....hate Howdy doody hate it hate it...

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Greetings: This community is full of singlets, many of whom lurk and don't post.

I think what you want to know is not the names of cores (we've none), but frontrunners -- and of the frontrunners, those who are likely to post. Many people sign their posts. Some system members have their own individual accounts. As Jay points out, we have named icons. Those of us who post under the general account name often simply do not know their own names up front.

I took your request rather in the spirit of a friend of ours who once wanted to know the names of all the then-frontrunners so she could learn who we were, recognise us by our voices, and do us the courtesy of addressing us by name. She even quoted 3 John 3:14. But I hope to see you soon, and we will speak face to face. Peace be to you. The friends greet you. Greet the friends by name. It was sweet.

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Yes, frontrunners. If "cores" means those who were "originally" born into/ known in the body, well, I don't care who the cores are. Like you said, I hope to address all personally instead of saying foolishly, "uh, whoever's here from the ____ system..."

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Gracious, my icon disappeared. And after I was on about named icons and all.

I do find your wish to address us by name to be courteous if a bit impractical (not everyone knows their name -- including not everyone in this group, as I've said), but system names or lj handles always work.

Also, read some of the previous posts... always a good idea for newcomers in any case.

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Hm, I can see your icon, so no worries.

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Well, I would take it into me head to rename all me icons tonight, wouldn't I then?! Apparently when you do that, they all revert back to one's default icon, which in our case is a lovely picture of Neil Young, who I hasten to assure you is not meself, nor is he a member of our system..

Jeff: That's a matter of opinion!
Jay: *falls over laughing*

And they stay that way, even if you rename them back to what they were in the first place! *fusses with icons* Okay. That's better. Anyway, http://www.livejournal.com/allpics.bml?user=ksol1460 should give you some idea.

Andy (just in case this icon doesn't work!)

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How I fancy and covet this beautiful icon!

-Cecily

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Uh..totally lame, dumbass question. Do you have to have a paid account to have a groovy collection of icons? Lots of us would like an icon of our own. We're sick to death of this Bosch business..as overplayed, to us, as Stairway to Heaven.
-Roman, the technologically Uninclined

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shadowechoes.livejournal.com

Free accounts get 3 user pictures, paid accounts get 15, and you can also buy additional user pictures so you can have 50.

You can buy them here:
http://www.livejournal.com/pay/

Hope this helps!
~Ash

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I nicked it off a screensaver. Heavenly, isn't it? Well, it's yours.

For music, art and pure enjoyment,
A. Temple

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Heavenly Creatures!!! Oh how I love that film, though I'm much more a fan of Juliet than Paulene. We did a presentation on that film for one of our courses. Also, Jess (?) has a Jodie Foster icon!! Another Goddess in the making.

xx

N.B. (Not member of this community nor do I have MPD/DID/anything else related to this community, but was inspired to read.. hope no one minds)

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we don't have MPD or DID either! Nor do many of the people here.

And you're perfectly welcome to read and post whenever you like. It's completely open.

Jess thanks you for the compliment on her icon. She does look like that, but darker, with long black hair. She is Gabriel's older sister. They live in a good-sized farmhouse, but there is a shack like Nell's on their property, near the river. Jess uses it as a kind of summer kitchen; she dries herbs out there, and does some canning.

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Argh, sorry. I don't really understand anything (hence reading the community).

Oh that's so pretty!! If it's remotely like the scenery in 'Nell' I'm entirely envious.

xx

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*heh* More like South Central Illinois.

I think Andy was meaning that people can be multiple without having MPD or DID which are psychiatric diagnoses. Keep reading. There are plenty of people on this community that will be happy to explain anything you don't understand.

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Well I don't even know where that is so it could be the most beautiful or ugly place in the world (I'm an England-er).

Oh okay, sooo what would one refer to multiples (?) as? Without being offensive or anything?

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You would say multiples. Or some people say plurals. Thank you for asking!

http://www.kitsune.cx/blackbirds/layman/

http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/glossary.html

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Eek!! Oh I love your love of Heavenly Creatures! You know, I'vee seen it more times than I can possibly count but I've never watched the ending. How ridiculous is that? Anyway, I could gush about the film all day. But I won't... Need to actually get off the damn computer and get some food (trying to figure out how people make icons... it's not working).

Okay, thanks for the links! I shall check them out once my eyes have re-adjusted to things OTHER than the computer screen!

x

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We make a lot of our icons with this:

http://www.irfanview.com

Good luck!
Andy & Gabriel

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asrai-d.livejournal.com

*dances around singing "no rules no rules."

well at least just be nice. it's okay to not know things and to ask things. i think multiples like to help others understand. at least some. we aren't so good at it.

anyway ... please stay :)

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elenbarathi.livejournal.com

Well, okay, I will have a go. We are three, apparently born multiple, sharing a 46-year-old female body - I am female, and have two 'brothers', called here Duathir and Crist-Erui - all three of our Lj handles are character-names from an original tale I've been working on for the past five years.

Duathir has his own Lj, and also comments here once in a while. He doesn't assume corporeality (what people here call "fronting") easily and can't maintain it very long, but he reads along with me most of the time. His twin doesn't read or write, and has only learned to speak a little in the past few years - he is corporeal for at least part of every day, but he's very shy, so few people have ever seen him, and even fewer have ever known we're not the same person.

I'm the one who deals with communicating with other people. Duathir is nominally head of our small Household, insofar as we need one. Crist-Erui is the strongest of us, the most "grounded" in corporeality. There have been others among us at varying times - visitors, guests, and on a couple of occasions, intruders - but we're the ones who live here permanently.

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*shakes hand* Pleasure, pleasure.

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pengke.livejournal.com

You know, your post really is quite rude.

Do you make it a habit of joining all your groups just to tell everyone you want them to introduce themselves to you?

If you want to know something about someone, you should read their livejournal (provided it's open to the public), read the archive of the group to see if they have an introduction somewhere, or ask them in private. You most especially don't expect people to introduce their children to a stranger.

Oh, and for further reference, we're all real people here. Even if the system does have an original person, that doesn't mean that person is any more special or interesting to know about than the rest of the system.

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elenbarathi.livejournal.com

She didn't "tell" anyone - she asked. People who don't want to answer are under no obligation to do so.

I find this post quite rude. The girl is 15, she's not multiple herself but she's making an effort to understand, and what she gets is a big fat smackdown because she doesn't automatically understand the etiquette of the "multiplicity culture". Yes, in essence you are correct in your "points", but since we're apparently dealing in "shoulds" here now, you should have phrased them with a little more civility.

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yes, we were thinking of saying something very similar. This is a fifteen year old woman you are speaking of. If she doesnt understand all the minutae of who we are, what acceptable terms we use when speaking to eachother, and what we may or may not consider to be too private when introducing ourselves, that is understandable. She is herself not multiple.
I cant think of how many times I've wanted to comment in a friend's journal, or even post on multiplicity, AS ANOTHER MULTIPLE, and have not done so because I was afraid of appearing a fool. This girl has some courage.

Laurelin, Cecily, Blue Morpho of TNA

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pengke.livejournal.com

This has nothing to do with "multiple ettiquete". It would be rude in any community or listserve. You just don't go join some place and expect the whole membership to introduce themselves to you so you'll know who's who when you lurk.

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I don't know why not. If I met someone, I would say, "Hi, I'm Stephanie." If he or she didn't say anything back, I would wonder why. Wouldn't you? I am just hoping to make friends; I am sorry if I offended you or others, but that wasn't my intention.

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oihanen.livejournal.com

that said, don't be afraid to de-lurk. :) asking questions and potentially looking stupid is far better than not knowing the answers and knowing you'll look stupid.

so smooth.
-eve

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sexylittleone.livejournal.com

as for an introduction... far simpler that you visit My userinfo page than I say what kind of system I live in. heh... its um complicated.

shrugs. Just easier to tell you to look there. heh sorry. I don't feel like writing it all out hehe.

welcome to the world of multiples.

El

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I wasn't implying that anyone is not a real person. I just asked that if someone wants to reply to this post to introduce himself, I would prefer that he tell me who else is with him. "I ask that anyone who comments on this post ", etc. And yes, I do like to get to know people in the groups I join.

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Welcome. You will know us by our named icons: that is why we have them. Why unjoin the community?

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oihanen.livejournal.com

first off, not all multiples have cores or core members. even if they do, cores aren't the most important people in the system. that'd be like saying george bush is the most important person in america. he sits in a public seat of authority, and may even wield some power, but don't discount the rest of the country. :) okay, lesson over.

but to introduce ourselves, we're oihanen, the people from the forest. i'll give you one guess what our internal landscape is.. lol. we're a pretty motley crew. got all kinds of adjective in here. but we do the regular hold-down-the-fort type stuff like putting on pants, falling asleep in algebra, buying groceries, and spending waaay too much time on the internet. (what, are you kidding? there's no such thing as too much internet.)

and i can't think of any reason why you wouldn't be allowed to stay here. it's not like we're elitist or anything. ::rolls eyes:: welcome, anyway.

-beast and eve

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I meant "frontrunners", and have edited the post. Nice to meet'cha; falling asleep in Statistics is one of my favoured activities.

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saturniakitty.livejournal.com

Who doesn't love Stat naps? ^_^

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oihanen.livejournal.com

frontrunners, then? eh, that'd be me, just cuz i'm the only one for it, but i don't mind the job. i have access to porn and pirated music any time i like. god bless kazaa. there's a council that makes big decisions like what kind of internal communications we use, what do to in case of emergency, where we're going to college, who we date, etc.
-eve

you actually have a class called statistics? oh my. my inner number-crazy evil!genius leaps and cackles with joy. the rest of me wants to run.
-beast

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shadowechoes.livejournal.com

No introduction could fit within a LJ comment. It's taken Us years to figure out all of Ourselves, I doubt you could begin to know Us all just by listing names or even a vague "profile" composed of several sentences. We have a list of the names of all the known System members on the "Free Text" box of Our LJ anyway - you have to look at Our journal page to see it. There's also a brief summary of the profile of each of Us, but it is lock-posted. Perhaps We should unlock it one day. I'll have to discuss it with the others. *sidetracks* When We post, We sign Our names, most of Us have Our own icons (although some of Us share). We don't have "cores" either, although there are some of Us who front more regularly/often than others. I have no right to introduce any other members of my system, that's their responsibility alone. Often by reading replies by different system members, you can begin to differenciate personality traits of system members. If I seem cold, it's because that's the way I am; I can't speak for the rest of Us though, but could guarantee that if Ash or Rhydan (who mostly handle replies on communities threads) were posting, there might be more of a warmer welcome. *wry chuckle* Besides, I'm not very used to this "fronting" thing anyway.

I also see no reason for you to unjoin the community. By sticking around you might get a better feel for things and learn better "multiple etiquette" as was previously mentioned.

~Roue

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saturniakitty.livejournal.com

We have separate accounts - usually I'm the only one that posts, but occasionally

shigoddess (Shi) or

thesaturnsystem (DazzleBerry and Shiori) will also jump in and say something. I am the main frontrunner. We do have a little with us, her name is Puchiko. But she doesn't speak English so unless you know Japanese you probably wont be talking to her ^_~

~Saturnia

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arimle.livejournal.com

Hi. I'm Elmira, the general frontrunner; this account is only mine, my twin sister is

slavena, but she doesn't often post, & there are others in the system but they mostly stay in the back. (We're thinking of setting up a system-wide lj, which would be fun.)

I don't take offense by any means, I know your intentions were good, and I'm happy you joined.

Elmira

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Reporting in from the land of slacking off on lab reports. Hi, I'm Shiu from Amorpha. I'm one of the two members of our group who posts here the most, partly by virtue of apathy on others' behalf c_c You'll probably see me around to bitch about things. And stuff. But I try to be polite. I don't bite, honest.

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