A bizarre question...

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

We were watching Ghost lat night when My lackey asked a question that had even Me stumped.

He wanted to know what happens when a Real Person dies in terms of spirits. Will there be just one? A platoon or company? Will they all be able to manifest spirit powers like possession individually or will what one does tap the others too?

I have to admit I'm not sure on ANY of these, so I'm curious as to what the rest of you think.

Comments

[dreamingkat.livejournal.com]

well, the answer to that is highly dependent on belief system. The ancient Egyptians believed that each non multiple person's soul was divided into 7 parts - and different things happened to each one upon death.

I'm not really sure exactly how things are composed in here - but I do believe that many of us have had incarnations before that were singular or multiple with a different group - and it's quite likely that we'll do so again.

I don't know if that makes sense to you or not - I know that my belief structure is "not typical". :)

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

"well, the answer to that is highly dependent on belief system"

That was about what I came up with, along with a capsule version of the old Catholic belief that DID was actually demon possession -- which implies multiple souls. Of course, I'm not Catholic...

Thanks for the reply! :)

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Assuming that what happens in Ghost is anything like reality, I would assume that each individual would be able to do, or learn to do, whatever we saw in the play. I would also assume that we'd stay in touch with each other (and since ^we exist independently in our own world, I should hope ^we will continue to do so and be able to communicate as we do now after the body dies!), so that communication will continue and partnerships would be possible. Those of us who have passed on in our own world might be in a position to further our educations.

Fascinating question. Thank you.

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

We don't know how we feel about the afterlife. We were brought up (forced) morman, but since leaving home we've kind of got more flexible opinions about things. we're pretty open to wiccan ideas, and right through to concepts of reincarnation, right through to just existing as spirits in this world after shedding the body. I'd hope we stayed together, i think i'd be lonely on my own.

[elenbarathi.livejournal.com]

Having looked at your Lj, what I think is that this is not a serious question.

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

having looked myself, i'm inclined to agree with you.

[cheshire-house.livejournal.com]

I guess the first question is finding out how many people exist in the same plane.
Very few of us are in the same place. Most, if not all, have (or at one point had) a physical body, either in the past or in another analogue.

[chinrest.livejournal.com]

amen to that

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

I wasn't looking for Ghost-specific answers, just thoughts on the subject in general. Thanks for the input. :)

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

Groovy. What about the individuals inside though? That was the real question.

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

What you think is irrelevant. Since you have nothing useful to add to the discussion, please go sit in the corner with the other dolts.

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

Do you think they'd remanifest separately or all together though? That is what I was getting at.

[epitomeof-crazy.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the club. I don't have the slightest idea what anyone would have to say if I would admit (though I don't really think I am) to being multiple. I have gotten the impression that 'mental illnesses' in general, and I use this phrase lightly, are seen as some evil thing by most LDS. I can't picture getting much support from my boyfriend or anyone else in the church if I could get them to take me seriously.

[epitomeof-crazy.livejournal.com]

I don't really know what to believe anymore.

[iamshadow.livejournal.com]

I think a lot of LDS can't comprehend that just believing in Jesus can't always make everyone on the planet stupidly happy. I grew up trying to believe, trying to do everything better than everyone, for everyone else. I was trying to believe to fit in. I still got picked on, ostracised and avoided, and not just by my peers, by adults too, just because i was different. And not in a gross deformity kind of way. Not even in a rebelling kind of way. I was just different from the other people there, and they couldn't deal with it.

I got out when I was eighteen and mum couldn't force me to go any more. I've found a lot more peace since then, and i've felt a lot more spiritual, believe it or not.

There were some things to do with the policies the church pushed that I just couldn't justify in my own mind. I mean, holding up a story of a girl who fought a rapist and died rather than submitting and surviving as the paradigm of virtue that every young girl should aspire to really stuck in my throat. That's like saying a girl is worthless without being 'pure'. And that's just sickening, that a girl's life is worth nothing more than her maidenhead.

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

"I have gotten the impression that 'mental illnesses' in general, and I use this phrase lightly, are seen as some evil thing by most LDS"

Same with most conventional churches. That's why We started Our own.

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

"I think a lot of LDS can't comprehend that just believing in Jesus can't always make everyone on the planet stupidly happy"

Hey, it isn't just the LDS that thinks this way. Ever get stuck in a room with any of the evangelicals? Hoo boy.

"stupidly happy"

BEAUTIFUL phrasing. Can I swipe that?

"I got out when I was eighteen and mum couldn't force me to go any more."

Heh. We got out (weird pseudo-Catholic deal) as soon as Our female parental unit figured out she couldn't force Me or My brother to sit still for her churching-up sessions, especially not YET ANOTHER viewing of JCS.

"I've found a lot more peace since then, and i've felt a lot more spiritual, believe it or not."

That seems to be how it works. People who were raised on the fascist system of religion tend to just go with the flow until they can escape. Once they're out, it's exactly as you described.

"And that's just sickening, that a girl's life is worth nothing more than her maidenhead."

Yeah. Just like how according to the OT, rape is merely a property crime.

[epitomeof-crazy.livejournal.com]

"There were some things to do with the policies the church pushed that I just couldn't justify in my own mind. I mean, holding up a story of a girl who fought a rapist and died rather than submitting and surviving as the paradigm of virtue that every young girl should aspire to really stuck in my throat. That's like saying a girl is worthless without being 'pure'. And that's just sickening, that a girl's life is worth nothing more than her maidenhead."

That entire paragraph sums up exactly how I feel. A friend of mine's mother lost a friend because she refused to let the doctor's give her morphine for the pain while delivering her child. For other such reasons related to the hipocracy of it all, I'm inactive at the moment but I also consider that to be a very derogatory and condescending term because it implies I am inactive in my faith, and not just Sunday School attendance. I just don't believe by their standards.
/rant about church
...because I can see where this is going.

[ex-khailitha846.livejournal.com]

I had a wierd experience with the Mormon church... I was raised Mormon. I had an adult personality called "Molly" who ran things for 8 years, got married in the temple, had kids, cooked, sewed, canned and then split the scene when we started to have flashbacks. I was left with chilren I couldn't remember giving birth to and a husband I couldn't remember marrying.

Anyway, after Molly left I did some "heretical" things and they convened a "church court" to "discipline" me. I told them I didn't want to be a part of the church anymore, and would they please excommunicate me? They wouldn't. (I think they were going to until I asked them to.)

A few years ago, I decided I wanted to sever my ties to the church so I wrote a letter asking that my name and my children't names be removed from church membership. The bishop lied and said he couldn't find our records. Then they sent the missionaries over. Then they told me I would have to go through another church court and get excommunicated. After over a year of making requests and getting lied to, I finally sent a certified letter to Salt Lake City and threatened to take legal action.

Very, very, very controlling, repressed, and strange, eh?