Multiplicity and Out-of--Body Experience?
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multiplicity_archivesI spent much of tonight reading about Near-death and out-of-body experiences, and I was curious as to people's thoughts on links between them and experiences of multiplicity :D.
During the one time where me and Tahl swapped, it was proceeded by a very distinct out-of-body experience, where I lost contact with the body, then fell mostly unconscious, waking into semi-consciousness when he called me or when he deliberately did things to attract my attention (listening to specific songs, talking about specific things). A lot of the descriptions of out-of-body or near-death experiences sound quite similar to some people's views and experiences in inner/other worlds, or the transition between people taking front. One account I read had a woman going into a field with a river, where she stayed with other people for what felt like a long period of time before being returned to the body. A friend of mine, who is plural, remembers watching the body undergoing surgery while the body was under full anesthetic and the main fronter was unconscious.
NDE is interesting also because it suggests that there is both the existance of subjective realities in people who aren't plural, as well as the notion of external or continuing conciousness that is active despite unconsciousness or even death. OBE is quite common, apparently attributable to stimulation of a particular part of the brain. Knowing how easily Tahl can fool around with brain chemistry and the body's nervous system, this in-and-of itself interests me. I have to wonder what a near-death experience would be like for a multiple group, or if some people who believed they were single found people through any of these experiences. It gave me food for thought.
During the one time where me and Tahl swapped, it was proceeded by a very distinct out-of-body experience, where I lost contact with the body, then fell mostly unconscious, waking into semi-consciousness when he called me or when he deliberately did things to attract my attention (listening to specific songs, talking about specific things). A lot of the descriptions of out-of-body or near-death experiences sound quite similar to some people's views and experiences in inner/other worlds, or the transition between people taking front. One account I read had a woman going into a field with a river, where she stayed with other people for what felt like a long period of time before being returned to the body. A friend of mine, who is plural, remembers watching the body undergoing surgery while the body was under full anesthetic and the main fronter was unconscious.
NDE is interesting also because it suggests that there is both the existance of subjective realities in people who aren't plural, as well as the notion of external or continuing conciousness that is active despite unconsciousness or even death. OBE is quite common, apparently attributable to stimulation of a particular part of the brain. Knowing how easily Tahl can fool around with brain chemistry and the body's nervous system, this in-and-of itself interests me. I have to wonder what a near-death experience would be like for a multiple group, or if some people who believed they were single found people through any of these experiences. It gave me food for thought.
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Date: 2007-04-19 06:47 pm (UTC)-Butterfly
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Date: 2007-04-20 08:30 am (UTC)It gets stranger than OBEs and NDEs
Date: 2007-04-27 04:17 am (UTC)One of our most memorable deaths was in a global nuclear war. Which means if you were living around 1965 then you probably died then too.
Being shot dead by the police around 1983 was another unforgetable experience, but the police were only too happy to forget it.
What happens when we experience these deaths appears to be that we migrate to another dimension or universe in which we haven't died and carry on living much as we were living before. The recent death we experienced may be remembered, but in the new world it never happened.
Time is really an illusion. Lots of people talk about their past life experiences, but we have future life experiences too. We took a journey up to 2076 a few years ago and visited one of our future incarnations as a walk-in, experiencing that world through their body. We died together almost immediately after we arrived. We were most definitely OBE at that point and we went down to the surface (from orbit) to walk-in with two spies hiding in a an observation post hidden in a desert. We died there too.
Some of our earliest training has been to help recently deceased spirits to cope with the trauma of their death and return to life. We began our training when we are about 3-4 years old. Our teacher took us to many, many worlds where people were dying in huge numbers and then taught us about why they were dying and how to help those who were too traumatized by their deaths or whose afterlife expectations were causing them serious problems, such as believing they now had to spend eternity in hell, or believing they were dead and were no longer capable of experiencing anything or returning to life.
We have gone through that surgery experience one respondent here mentioned. We were totally aware of every cut and tug and stitch during the reconstruction of a tendon that had been accidentally severed. We were knocked out under general anesthesia and were supposed to be totally unconscious but we heard every word spoken during the surgery.
We live like dolphins. We are partly asleep and partly awake, taking turns being awake, so we are always awake, even when we are sleeping. We spend a lot of time OBE when we are neither sleeping or being the active agent in control of our body.
Sometimes it seems as if we were posessed by aliens and that then none of us were in control of our body. We could see ourselves speak and do things we could not have conceived of doing or saying, things completely incomprehensible to us.
We suspect when you have an NDE that you have really died in an alternate universe and migrated into a new univeres where here you have miraculously had a close encounter with death but survived.
OBEs seem to be an entirely different class of experience because in OBEs you are not limited by conventional physical laws because you are in an incorporeal state.
We have floated up out of our body and then been slam-dunked back down into our body by one of our gurus.
We attended a discourse by another guru who initiated an astral journey for us that took us seven years to complete. We had what was essentially an infinitely long exploration of the universe that taught us about the mechanics of creation. The span of time was seven years from the point when our body experienced our departure to the point where our body experienced our return. During that time we carried on living our lives in our body but part of us was gone for seven years as measured by our body, but those same seven years were an eternity as experienced in the context of our astral journey.
We returned home from our experience of the global nuclear war in 1965 or so and we arrived home before we had departed. Time is a strange, strange business. But in a life where migrating between different worlds, dimensions or universes no longer seems unusual it now seems less extraordinary to be able to arrive home before we have departed.
Read more about my strange experiences on my blog: http://tangledintime.blogspot.com
Enjoy!