[identity profile] drleanne.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Here is a link to pages in a book called Borderline Personality Disorder, etiology and treatment that suggests a link btween BPD and MPD, tho this study is suggesting that the borderline did not have the full dissociative capacity to split which i admit iss different than what i presented earlier.

Google Book Link

Now the stuff that i was talking about earlier may have been declared defunct. I don't know. Thats cool if it is and i am sorry that I didn't have the most current information. And yes, I admit i may have over generalized when I said most.

This topic has been talked about with a psychologist friend of mine, and when I get together with her again I'll ask for more current journal entries and whatnot.

         

Date: 2006-12-24 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cirape.livejournal.com
Actually, that says that the causes (or some of the causes) are similar and that they studied people with both BPD and MPD.
I will admit, however, that I only read the page you linked us to.

Date: 2006-12-24 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catskillmarina.livejournal.com
Otto Von Kernberg included MPD in his theory of Borderline Personality Organization
creating a big category of people he believes that have poor sense of self. I would
rather take object relational theory and use it to show how a mind can form/contain
objects that happen to be people in their own right defining themselves against each
other and against their experiences in the world.

I would agree witht the study that BPD should be included in an impulse control problem
category and i would say that any impulse control problem is highly indicative of head
injury. We had moderatly bad impulse control problems until we were put on an
anticonvulsant. The severe impulse control problems have been fairly well linked in my
case to a nasty bike accident where i was knocked out and recieved 2 blows one of which
put dents in my helmet.

Personally i would argue that most people have a degree of multiplicity in themselves
but it never gets to the point that it is noticed and in people with a GREAT deal of
multiplicity in themselves it is not noticed until they get sick for some reason and
the multiplicity is blamed.

--- miri of mtribe

Date: 2006-12-24 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Thank you for locating the book. I'd be interested in hearing what your friend has to say.

Borderline personality disorder has been a trashcan diagnosis for quite a long time -- that is, it is used as a conditional diagnosis so that a client can get insurance to pay for sessions while working with the therapist to uncover what is really wrong. I'm not against trashcan diagnoses per se, but this practise does lead to a number of misunderstandings, espcially as the definition of what BPD is has changed over the years.

Some professionals in the wake of the overdiagnosis scandal claimed that clients who actually had BPD had been diagnosed with MPD, perhaps in an honest mistake, perhaps for the prestige (MPD being more glamorous), perhaps for the insurance money (MPD being more lucrative). These are some of the reasons I'm suspicious of attempts to link the two. There isn't enough evidence for much of anything in psychology, and this sounds like another attempt at a grand unified theory of everything -- in this case, in terms of dissociation, a la Marlene Steinberg.

I wonder could you enclose that long URL within anchor tags and give it a briefer name. "Quote from Borderline Personality Disorder, Etiology and Treatment" would be fine.

Date: 2006-12-24 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tej-agni.livejournal.com
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