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[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

... I am almost hesitant to post here. But I figure .. what the hell.


I am Tyg. And I have five head-mates. Perhaps that sounds a little bit like "Alcoholics Anonymous" or something. Gosh. There really isnt a comfortable way of telling anyone this subject....


Right now, only four people know of my boys. My husband, my girlfriend, and two other gals at work. My husband was a bit shocked at finding the boys in my head could say things that were on their minds. Or even that they could come out and front sometimes.

My girlfriend was the one who introduced her boys to me, and by doing so incouraged mine to come out. The other two gals at work were kind of an accident. One we just let it slip, and she was cool.

The other, was an accident as well. Apparently Vel had said something to her and she mentioned it to me. ( tyg) I was a most confused, as he neglected to tell me he said something. My reply was " Oh. Well. I suppose that is the downside to having multiples. Right?" and walked off.

Now, I only called them multiples, because she wouldnt have known what a "Head-mate" was.

She later became very excited by it, and it was almost scary. She squealed, and replied " Oh!! Someone with MPD!! Cool!! Im studying to be a psyc. major. Tell me more."

Vel's reaction was " WTF?!? Its nae a disorder. Im nae a disease. Now donnae analyze me. " ( Hes Scottish by the way)

I suppose that made me uneasy enough to not want share with anyone else.

I dont feel that they are a disorder or a disease. Infact, life has been a lot easier to deal with since they have come about. Like... they all can handle things differently and its so much better now.

I guess I am mainly posting because one of my boys is new. And he doesnt know who he is yet. Has anyone else had that. I mean my Burd and I have been talking, and she has helped, but he still doesnt know anything yet. Like... hes an amalgamation(sp) of two totally different people, and yet he doesnt know who he is. And its mostly just confusing all of us really. *sighs*

Wow. That.. feel better. Thanks for letting me bleed that out into the open.

~~~~Tyg

Comments

[asterism.livejournal.com]

Hullo. :)

I'm new to this whole headvoices thing myself and I'm mostly lurkish. Shy, I guess. :) But welcome and all that.


-Lux

[asterism.livejournal.com]

And an addition...RL, the only people who know about my headmates are my husband and girlfriend. ;) There's some online friends who also know, but...it's a very short list.


-Lux

[kyouketsusha.livejournal.com]

Welcome! :)

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Hi, you might find a bit more here (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=multiplicity&keyword=new+people&filter=all)...

(grfgfgfgf mpd...)

[mirrorbrothers.livejournal.com]

Welcome! Sorry about the bad coming-out experience, but three out of four isn't bad. It sounds like the important people to you took it well.

As for your new head-mate, I'm not an expert or anything, but I'd think that any new person, whether just-emerged in a multiple, or just born as a singlet - takes time to develop a personality. In the way-diverse multiple community there might be exceptions, but my guess is that's the rule. Certainly it was that way with Johnny. When I first met him, he slept a lot, and didn't want to talk or play much. (I was four, so my perspective was a bit limited.) In hindsight, he was kinda like a baby. The brain and the body were still my age, of course, so not exactly like. But it took him some time to "grow up."

I'd say, just let him hang around, get used to things, and not expect him to know exactly who he is right away.

- Rob

[aristastarfyr.livejournal.com]

-=waves hi=-

I've had a plenty people follow me around (I don't consider myself a multiple, but I have 'friends' who are near me, not in me) that have not revealed their identities to me until I was ready/had a clue about them.

But from the way I'm reading this, your new person doesn't know who they are, either? I don't think I've had that happen to me. :( Wish I could be more helpful...

New Ones

[worldnamer.livejournal.com]

There really isnt a comfortable way of telling anyone this subject....

I know. It's a lot harder than it would seem.

And he doesnt know who he is yet. Has anyone else had that.

I have one kicking around that isn't quite a full person. I think the important thing is to not press too hard for answers right away. In my experience, naming helps. (All of the people in here got easier to deal with once I could address them by name.)

Frankly, the idea of more people showing up terrifies me. Hopefully it's not the same with you, but if it is, hugs.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

She later became very excited by it, and it was almost scary. She squealed, and replied " Oh!! Someone with MPD!! Cool!! Im studying to be a psyc. major. Tell me more."

Oh yeah. That good old "your disease is so interesting." (And they always assume you'll be willing to answer, like... all kinds of questions that most people would think of as very invasive and overly private, and that you'll be happy to give out personal information to just anyone.)

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

Donnae? We giggled.

(We live in Scotland, Lu's born and raised here)


Identity confusion happens. It should pass. Either he'll 'realise' who he is, or throughtime existing he'll become himself.

[hellmutt.livejournal.com]

So did I. (English, me.)

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

^^ Me be English. I admit though I giggled because it's not actually 'correct' Scottish (or Scottish slang), so it has a high humour value. I don't know, is that phrasing used on any TV shows or something that would make it more prevelant?

[meirya.livejournal.com]

I'd guess it has to do with the body's filters.

For instance: One of my fiancé's headmates (a past life ka, basically) is Irish/French. (Born Irish, but spent a large part of his life in France. He's I think early 14th century? Sometime in the 14th C.) He uses a faux-irish accent (though it's probably somewhat closer to scottish), but makes no bones about the fact that it's fabricated. For him, it's more a way to let people know it's him. (It's a renfaire dialect. Recognizable for Americans, but probably laughable to Europeans.)

While he may have spoken with something of an Irish accent during his lifetime, a lot of language-memory is rooted in the physical body, brainpatterns and neurons and such, and so there's no real possibility of him using an Irish accent now. The body's brain has no basis for it. It's just like how the body doesn't know French or Gaelic, so Edward wouldn't be able to speak either (except maaaybe under rather extraordinary circumstances, but I dunno what those would be).

Vel is Scottish, so he likely uses an approximation of what the body has experienced as a "scottish accent". That, or if it's only in the headspace, then it's likely that's what the body's brain perceives it as. Who knows; there are a number of possible explanations.

*/ramble*

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

S'ok. I wasn't having a go about it. I don't know Hungarian, Lu doesn't know her native tongue but for a few words, Chloe doesn't know any of the languages people suspect she would have known. It just amused me since we live with that accent in everyday life. I'm mostly confused that anywhere at all (fictional or otherwise) would actually have a completely made up word like that. Chloe's accept seems from her series, mine from my canon probably (as well as many many english relatives and visits).

I can see where it probably came from (donnae is not dissimilar to gonnae, which is a perfectly normal Scottish phrasing.), I just wondered if it was a person's mind using the sound incorrectly, or if it had actually been on TV or something.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

The last time we heard "donnae" it was in a Scots accent as contrived as what's being described. Even Gabe's critical ear couldn't discern what exactly was wrong with it. He temporarily put it down to regional variations. So much was consistent and so much was dubious about this woman's presentation otherwise that he dismissed the entire matter.

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

Admittedly, at first read *I* didn't know what was wrong with it :P

I suspect donnae may have been somewhat experimentally used in some areas. But not in the same structure as here even then.

(again though, I'm not having a go. Like you say with your example, it would take a lot more to be dubious before something as simplke as speech would bother me. It just has us curious as natives.)

[lightdestiny.livejournal.com]

We have a girl here with the most ridiculous sort of Assorted Pick'n'Mix European accent ever.

Luckily she sticks to just using it in our head, she doesn't actually speak out loud in it. Otherwise I think people would just fall over laughing every time she spoke.

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

XD She should be thankful. Lu has no choice. She can go from heavily accented Scottish through into English that would do me proud every other sentence. Many times we've caught people giving her weird looks. The joys of dual heritage.

[lightdestiny.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but you two sound reasonable in both forms, as opposed to the "wtf is THAT" responses that I suspect this chick would draw. XD

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

*g*

.... Wait, what? How do you know how we sound =O

[lightdestiny.livejournal.com]

Because we are MYSTERIOUS and PSYCHIC.

Or else cause this is leucrocuta's woo-woo-stuff journal, either way. Thought you knew, sorry.

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

I DID NOT KNOW. Damn you. All this time I thought you were just some other member of the community who sounded vaguely rational and über nice.

XD Dayum. *hides*

[lightdestiny.livejournal.com]

SORRY. XD (I'd have sworn I made a post about it somewhere. just, decided to make an lj for teh woo-woo system stuff, although it actually mostly gets used for babbling in communities instead.)

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

I vaguely remember a "we'll make another journal for reading/posting in woo-woo comms" but I don't remember any follow through. I may just be being forgetful. It would not suprise me. I would like a memory like a seive, it would be better than my current one.

[lightdestiny.livejournal.com]

Eh, it's also possible that I just spaced and forgot to tell people its actual name, or something, as my memory also sucks ass.

ANYWAY. Now you know and I shall stop spamming this poor person's thread. ^^

[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

(Nae is like no, or 'not' as a suffix to a verb (dinna = don't, wisnae = wasn't)

We like to think about Vels accent as being some what watered down. He doesnt have a real thick one, or say those wonderful words that those Scottish men say. :) But he does still have the accent.

The word "Donnae" came from an authors version of "Dont" as based on the above sentence from a book on scottish language.

And he doesnt really like to be analyzed. We've established this. So can we drop the subject. I dont want to sound rude. >.> You guys have all really helped...

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

*points up* We come from Scotland, so please don't explain what donnae is supposed to represent. I'm not trying to analyse you. If it makes you feel better, I really don't care to analyse you or yours.

I was curious as to whether this word had actually be used in any canon. I suppose more interesting would be whether the canon's creator had actually been Scottish. My interest is in the word, it's usage, and it's origins. Not in your buddy. He has no cause for concern.

(note: We have established nothing. So, kindly don't act like I'm committing a huge breach of ettiquette by ignoring a dislike that was never made clear.)

[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

This sounds a little hostile-ish. ::looks up::

She didnt really mean it for you. But for all the others that posted beneath you. But it did start from the question that sounded a lot like analyzing.

:;raises hands;: now Im not sticking up for anyone here, or trying to cause any problems.

Just trying to help clear the air. And you are right, you werent really analyzing, but to her thats what it seemed like.

As for the answer to your question, Vel first picked out his accent when Tyg ( teh host) picked up a novel in which the Author had portrayed a man in their from Scotland. Now she used words that he does not, and vice versa. I doubt the author was really scottish, so who knows. But that was a long time ago.

Me. Im Irish, but I dont speak it through the body. It really doesnt come off as Irish in her head either.

So sorry for the miscommunication/understanding on her part. ::bows::

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

I can get a little bit snippy when people get snippy at me :P Especially when I don't see a reason for it. No worries.

Re: World's most unpopular opinion:

[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

Its not so much as she has a problem with how others see the situation. Obviously if we are posting here. She just explained that to let you know that only four people know.

And I shouldnt have to keep my mouth shut. If I have something to say. Im going to say it.


~~Errik

Re: World's most unpopular opinion:

[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

Ah. Eee. Well, excuse my wild mouth. It does tend to get me in trouble a lot. Especially with Jack.

::rolls around:: We all have the ability to "front" and sometimes we tell her that we did. Sometimes we dont. She usually just plays it off. Or sometimes she doesnt.

Its fun hitting on girls in a female body. Ask her about that one. Lol

[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

We seemed to have gotten off the topic of the post here. It wasnae about my accent. It was about her insecurity of the whole situation.

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

People are entiteled to discuss anything they wish. Entries frequently open up other discussions. Frequently not even involving the OP. This is the nature of communities.

If your dialect is some kind of very sensitive issue, then I'm sorry to have bothered you. I was not aware idle curiosity about our native tongue was going to offend you so.

[ravenblade.livejournal.com]

::laughs and waves it off:: Dont mind my brother. hes just grumpy. You're right. This is a forum, and as such any of you have a right to post whatever the hell you want. ::big cheezy grin::

Like. Anything. Vel and I are brothers, but I dont have an accent. Mine left me a loooong time ago. So I have no problem talking to you about either of our history. XD

And you havent offended anyone. Just. Him. But it will pass, and in an hour or so hell forget what anyone was talking about. :)

Anyhoo. Hi. Im Errik.