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multiplicity_archivesSo, we've done it once more..., I was on the giving end. I don't remember all of the details, but I remember her eyes. Her eyes on me. Don't get me wrong, I remember seeing her eyes reflected in K's, the other time, but this was different...I could...feel her. Feel everything. I remember the way she felt, tasted, looked at me...the feel of her lips, her tongue, everything. I remember looking at her, seeing the body, but seeing her also. Her bright blue eyes, her blonde hair...Gods it was incredible...caressing her, and feeling her...doing things to her physically I always dreamed of...and Kissing her...so much passion...gods, I just don't have the words to describe, not without going into greater detail than I have, but my lj will have more detail, trust me....I need to capture this for all time.
I love you Tara,
I love you K, and thank you again.
Faith Alana Alastair
Pack Collective
I love you Tara,
I love you K, and thank you again.
Faith Alana Alastair
Pack Collective
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Date: 2006-04-03 10:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-04 04:27 am (UTC)Not only that, but you do know that all the unlocked posts on this comm are still being syndicated to GJ (http://multiplicity-lj.greatestjournal.com/), right?
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Date: 2006-04-06 11:48 pm (UTC)Elizabeth Ryan MacLeod
Pack Collective
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Date: 2006-04-07 02:35 am (UTC)What I was and am saying is that, in my opinion-- which I am allowed to have and express, just you and everyone else are also allowed to completely disagree with it-- to post this much information about your sexlife, in a public post that is easily syndicated, found by search engine, cached on automatic archive sites, and/or linked to, is unwise.
I personally would consider description of what a sexual encounter felt like to be beyond what I would describe even to close friends in person, regardless of whether overt sexual terms were used or not used. I am not a prude, nor particularly repressed. You can post all you like about, say, Men in Female Bodies Missing their Penes and Scrotum (or Dick and Balls, whatever), and I would not blink an eye. It's more the matter of boundaries and the fact that you are giving intimate description of a very private and special moment in a public place where it could easily, for instance, be picked up in a Google search and reposted as porn elsewhere, among other possibilities.
To tell the truth, I am not even really sure what the hell multiplicity has to do with this, except for the element of systemmembers travelling between bodies, which not all systems can do, and which many singlets also do. It's certainly a wonderful thing that you've accomplished, and by no means do I think it is a bad thing. I merely think that describing that much in a public place is a Very, Very, Very Bad Idea.
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Date: 2006-04-07 04:16 am (UTC)That also means that any OTHER places that might be fetching the public posts remotely also already have a copy of the post. You don't even know what purposes they might be fetching them for. I was TRYING to point that out. Even locked posts in this comm are not entirely safe, as there is no moderation approval required to join, and there are many, many lurker journals whose owners no one, not even the mods, know anything about, let alone their motives or activities or what they do with the posts they read.
Your personal journals, on the other hand, are FAR less likely to have as many lurkers or syndication feeds of the public posts. Even without a filter, this kind of thing is safer and less likely to result in messy consequences.
THAT is what I was trying to say. Openness is no reason that you should take unnecessary risks with sensitive material.
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Date: 2006-04-07 12:17 am (UTC)Why shouldn't they be allowed to share? It could really aide others in their quest for how this sort of thing works or COULD work.
And why shouldn't they share a victory with those they consider friends?
Note to self: any victory we, as the Annwn System, rejoice in.. is ONLY for us. Bad llama, thinking we should share it with people who could TRULY understand.
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Date: 2006-04-07 03:04 am (UTC)By all means, share the victory. Say, "My girlfriend and I figured out how she could travel to our mutual earth-girlfriend's body so that our sexlife could become more fulfilling to us." That I would have no qualms with. But to wax erotic for a paragraph on how breathtaking it was when you literally have no idea who else is lurking and reading-- it's less of a matter of helping others, and more a matter of not being exploited.
And why shouldn't they share a victory with those they consider friends?
They should. That would be what I'd presume their personal journals are for. Am I to take this to mean that they consider all 717 members of this comm, and all the countless lurkers who can read public posts, all the random search engine hits, and all the unknown readers of known and unknown syndicated feeds of this comm, to be their friends?
I am not, and never was, ever meaning "BAD BAD BAD HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING". Not everyone who reads this community can be considered to have friendly intentions.
Bad llama, thinking we should share it with people who could TRULY understand.
Well, then. Bad ME for having an opinion and expressing it. What the fuck was I thinking? That someone might actually stop and think about the potential for humiliation and invasion of their privacy that might result, and actually be helped</> by it? That Self-Appointed Psychology Experts might stop by and claim that this is all sexual fantasy? That another member might take this as a sign of "fluffiness", much as descriptions of otherworlds and psychic phenomena usually result? You can say that you're secure, but I know that it would NOT hurt any less to have something like this put up, say, on any number of mockery sites as "proof" that all multiples are fantasizing/stupid/wankers/whatever. It would NOT hurt any less, even with experience in publishing in a comfortable situation, to have it copied and pasted for a potential host of complete strangers' auto-erotic satisfaction.
Pardon me for daring to suggest that indiscretion on the internet might have unwanted consequences. Clearly this can only be interpreted as moral outrage, even though I completely approve of their success and happiness, if not the way they report it.
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Date: 2006-04-07 03:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-04 09:39 pm (UTC)When I write something here, I realize that it's open to all unless I make it otherwise,. I Don't like the fact that it has been copied,.......Verbatium and posted somewhere else without MY PERMISSION!
I never agreed to this! Who started this Other Journal,.? and why are things being posted without the permission of the Writers,........
I DON'T LIKE THIS.
Perhapes it's time to change all my posts to Locked.
Very displeaesed,
~M/Frost/Jake~
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Date: 2006-04-05 11:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-05 07:21 pm (UTC)There's a link a few Replies up the list. I don't think that the Moderators of this community have given their approval, and I also realize that if I put words on the internet they kind of become Public Property.
My biggest annoyance is the fact that, When I post something on Livejournal, I have only given *My* consent to have it displayed there, not *Any*where else. I realize anyone can come and take and use my words. There's nothing I can do about that.
But when someone is deliberatly doing it,...Or knows that it's happening and does nothing to stop it. That's what I have an issue with.
It also feels like an invasion of Privacy. But that's just my opinion. I in no means speak for all of this community. Nor would I even try.
~M/F/J~
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Date: 2006-04-08 12:15 am (UTC)It still doesn't take away the right that I have to be angry/upset about it,.......That and Correct me If I'm wrong but aren't you supposed to attain permition of the people you photograph if you are intending to use the picture you take of them and display it publicly,.?
Or am I wrong,...?
and if that's the case, doen't that apply to print as well,.?
Just curious,....and I'm still slightly disgruntled at, (the very least) My posts being taken and posted somewhere else,.
Hence why I said, from now on, all my posts are going to be protected when posted on a public forum,.
~M~
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Date: 2006-04-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(Niether you nor anyone else can take that away from me. My emotions are my own,.)
How I ACT upon them in public is what gives the public the right to condem, ridicule, judge, Elate, Congradulate, Consternate Etc. Etc.
So you can react however you want to what I feel. I'm just telling you,... You can not and will never be able to tell someone, that they don't have the right to feel it. That's Tantimount to telling a grieving man He Doesn't have the right to feel sad for his spouses death.
And I would hope that your Photography (If being used as an Art medium) would reflect Life,. As Art is meant to,.
I feel that I have adiquately expressed my thoughts on this issue. I am done.
~M~
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Date: 2006-04-06 03:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-06 08:55 pm (UTC)that's the link from the reply a few posts up,.
Hope that works for you,.....Thank you for taking some action,.
~M/F/J~
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Date: 2006-04-04 09:49 pm (UTC)where discussions of Sexuality and Multiplicity is encouraged.
which I'm almost sure that you guy's are members of.
~M~
Re: Also,...
Date: 2006-04-06 11:32 pm (UTC)maybe you could post there with a link to the two posts for me? I'm on a time frame tonight with the puter...if not, it's cool I'll get there...
Faith
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Re: Also,...
Date: 2006-04-07 04:16 am (UTC)I'll go to the FAQ list and dig a little see what I can do,.
But I don't think I know how,.
~M~
Re: Also,...
Date: 2006-04-07 03:15 am (UTC)It being a community specifically ABOUT sexuality and multiplicity, then yes, that makes sense. As such, it even has a physical age-cap of 18 and requests that "littles" not post. This community does NOT have any such thing.
...I'm not going to start with "OMG Littles could read this by accident", as I personally find that to be the dumbest reason to maintain privacy.
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Date: 2006-04-06 11:53 pm (UTC)i joined as a singleton, trying to learn the appripriate terms, learning what to, and not to say, and how to provide support when one of my friends came out to me as being multiple.
this post was something that was very important to Faith, and she felt the need to share it with people, who may have tried the same thing. as fellow multiples, you can understand much better how this has affected her, than i ever will be able to.
i just wanted to state again, how incredably disapointed i am in some of you. i wasn't aware that this place was turning into an anti-support group.
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Date: 2006-04-07 03:27 am (UTC)Goddamn it.
I do NOT disapprove of their success.
I do NOT disapprove of their reporting that to the group.
I -DO- think that it is unwise to post the description publicly in a well-known and infamous comm without any apparent consideration to how much this could HURT THEM IN THE FUTURE. LJ-cuts do not provide security whatsoever.
If trying to give advice against actions that could seriously lead to long-term humiliation and unnecessary grief-- possibilities which could easily be reduced by clicking a drop-down menu and selecting "Friends" instead of "Public" --counts as "anti-support", then fuck, what the hell IS support? Saying nothing but "Good for you!" and never saying anything remotely resembling "I wouldn't do that if I were you..."?
If I sound pissed, well, I am pissed. God forbid anyone acknowledge that sometimes something might be a bad idea. It's not "supportive". From now on, I'll never say anything if it isn't "GO YOU! YOU ROCK AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT COULD BITE YOU IN THE ASS LATER!"
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Date: 2006-04-07 06:19 am (UTC)Lilac
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Date: 2006-04-07 05:18 pm (UTC)~j
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Date: 2006-04-07 07:15 pm (UTC)This is not necessarily true—none of my group have ever 'travelled' to another body. I don't believe it's possible to do so, frankly, and so cannot relate to this very well at all.
It takes all kinds to form a community. :)