.... Or you know maybe we're right and the drug hasn't altered us that much (or our beliefs.)
After all it would be easy if all drugs worked, but some are acknowledged as simply not having much of an effect on people.
Forgive me but I don't *really* like the view that whether I take pills or not, my perception is so skewed that my views need to be examined very carefully. When I talk about politics, my opinions on a smoking ban, whether or not I liked a book, etc, I don't expect people to eye me up and down critically because I take medication for something. To an outside observer, *I* don't appear drugged. I appear perfectly normal. (Fuck I probably appear more drugged when I'm NOT on drugs)
S: For the record, Lu is being nice but I'll put bluntly that I do NOT like being compared to somebody high on cocaine. I think there is a MAJOR difference, even IF we go along with you and say "ok it's mind altering." I'm not entirely sure any of our doctors would agree that being on bloody Prozac or whatever is most popular these days makes you equivilant to somebody who's smoked a bong or downed 15 pints.
I normally appreciate you as one of the more rational people on this community. This however has lowered that opinion greatly. I'm sure you don't care. But I'd take a psychiatric evaluation over your frankly off the wall comparisons.
People are under the influence of mind altering drugs all the time, they're just produced by the body. Perhaps you'd like to compare them to people who are stoned as well.
L: So yeah you were right when you thought it might annoy people, and that is frankly *justified*. How you can compare somebody on mild/low doses of say, anti-depressants, so somebody who'se snorted cocaine.... I just don't get it. I really don't. As Terry Pratchett points out, what are emotions, feelings, if not just drugs produced by your body.
Don't get us wrong, we are aware of various things. If Selene is panicking then we know to calm down and regard what she thinks rationally. We know mild depression may at times colour what we think, and we adjust accordingly. And we know that if we take a strong tranqueliser, then that is not the best time to try and analyse our faith.
But being on asst drugs or being in long term mental health care does not mean that people should regard critically *everything* we say. If a depressed person says "nothing is going right :((" then sure, take that with a grain of salt. If a depressed person though gives their opinion on politics, or even on their faith, especially when they're not in one of their dips, I do *not* see what the problem is unless said problem lies with you.
Do feel free to write this down to us being in 'denial'. But like Isha said, we'll take the qualified medical practitioner's word on that one.
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Date: 2006-03-30 10:50 pm (UTC)After all it would be easy if all drugs worked, but some are acknowledged as simply not having much of an effect on people.
Forgive me but I don't *really* like the view that whether I take pills or not, my perception is so skewed that my views need to be examined very carefully. When I talk about politics, my opinions on a smoking ban, whether or not I liked a book, etc, I don't expect people to eye me up and down critically because I take medication for something. To an outside observer, *I* don't appear drugged. I appear perfectly normal. (Fuck I probably appear more drugged when I'm NOT on drugs)
S: For the record, Lu is being nice but I'll put bluntly that I do NOT like being compared to somebody high on cocaine. I think there is a MAJOR difference, even IF we go along with you and say "ok it's mind altering." I'm not entirely sure any of our doctors would agree that being on bloody Prozac or whatever is most popular these days makes you equivilant to somebody who's smoked a bong or downed 15 pints.
I normally appreciate you as one of the more rational people on this community. This however has lowered that opinion greatly. I'm sure you don't care. But I'd take a psychiatric evaluation over your frankly off the wall comparisons.
People are under the influence of mind altering drugs all the time, they're just produced by the body. Perhaps you'd like to compare them to people who are stoned as well.
L: So yeah you were right when you thought it might annoy people, and that is frankly *justified*. How you can compare somebody on mild/low doses of say, anti-depressants, so somebody who'se snorted cocaine.... I just don't get it. I really don't. As Terry Pratchett points out, what are emotions, feelings, if not just drugs produced by your body.
Don't get us wrong, we are aware of various things. If Selene is panicking then we know to calm down and regard what she thinks rationally. We know mild depression may at times colour what we think, and we adjust accordingly. And we know that if we take a strong tranqueliser, then that is not the best time to try and analyse our faith.
But being on asst drugs or being in long term mental health care does not mean that people should regard critically *everything* we say. If a depressed person says "nothing is going right :((" then sure, take that with a grain of salt. If a depressed person though gives their opinion on politics, or even on their faith, especially when they're not in one of their dips, I do *not* see what the problem is unless said problem lies with you.
Do feel free to write this down to us being in 'denial'. But like Isha said, we'll take the qualified medical practitioner's word on that one.