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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

Hey, I hope everyone doesn't mind. I do not have DID, but I have studied it a lot. I was just wondering how all of you feel about hypnosis. Have any of you tried it? Does it even work? Or do you all enjoy having DID?

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Re: Well, we don't have DID....

[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

Thanks a lot for that! I had no idea that that multiple personalities could inhabit one body even if there was no trauma to trigger it. The reason I asked those questions was to learn more and understand better. You have really helped a lot! Thank you!

Well, we don't have DID....

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

so I couldn't tell you, but here's how ^we (our group) feel about being multiple...
http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/

as always YMMV (your mileage may vary), people in this community have a lot of different takes on it.

[36.livejournal.com]

Dissociative Identity Disorder? You know many multiples see no connection between their existance and dissociation, and many many more are offended by the idea of being called disordered.

This might be some useful reading:

http://www.kitsune.cx/blackbirds/layman/

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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

[moonfroggy.livejournal.com]

i am afraid of hypnosis and never plan to try it
i don't like the term did, but i am not that offended by it, for myself i don't feel i have a dissorder, i don't think anyone inside feels that it is a dissorder, i should say i think many of us do have a dissorder but that it isn't because we are plural it is because we have ptsd and it really really sucks,
i don't know if the word enjoy is the right word, we don't ever want to "merg" it can be frustrating especialy when we don't remember something, but we are mostly co consiuoa and sometimes it can be hard when some of the ones inside can be very self destructive, and thats all related to ptsd and stuff
some people who have responded to your post included urls tow eb pages they thought could be helpful, so we would like to include a url to one of our favorit web pages,
it is about midcontinuum stuff
http://www.asarian.org/~vickis/continuum.html

[kiya]

I can self-hypnotise but I've never met anyone who can take me down straight; I've never looked for anyone to do so, though. (I've done a lot of trance work for religious reasons.)

Not being disordered, I couldn't begin to speak to the DID thing.

[thebigidea.livejournal.com]

We don't really identify as having DID, but asking someone if they enjoy having DID is like asking you if you enjoy being the only person in your body. You don't know anything else, so how could you decide? Same for us, we've never had out own individual bodies, so who are we to say?

As for hypnosis: never tried it. A lot of books say that multiples are easily hypnotized, but I don't think we would be. Most of us are highly skeptical about it and resistant to the idea.

Ouija boards never work for us either. :)

Mar

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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

I hope I did not offend you by asking that. It just seems to me that it would present some problems if I were to have more than one person living in my body. I mean, I read Sybil and it seemed to really get her down.

[larzmachine.livejournal.com]

Great. We have a tourist.

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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

it's not like I don't know what it is like to have people in aw with me! people freak out all the time when they hear I was in a crazy house and that I'm bipolar. They all just want to study you. I am not here to study people, I just want to make friends with people. if you really hate me that much then I will leave.

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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

You know, I have found that the best way to deal with an ignorant person rather than calling them names is to enlighten them. After all, the only reason I asked those questions was to learn. Not to mention you cannot very well call yourself not ignorant if you will not even accept the ignorant people. So I suggest that instead of making a comment like that you help me (in a nice way) to understand how you feel.

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Hey, don't knock the tourists, Larz -- they're as entitled to ask questions as anybody else. She's shown she's open minded which is good enough for ^us; next time someone mentions MPD/DID Classic to her with the preconceived notions, Sybil et al., she can tell them there's more to it than that, point them to links, pages, etc. And then some of those people will get it, and on and on.

[eeyores.livejournal.com]

You made us laugh. We loved the Tourist comment. It is so nice hearing more bodies with multi beings...this is our first day.

[vlyandra.livejournal.com]

"Enjoy" is... not great word choice, there. This is who we are. Do you enjoy being you? It's like that. I think of it as just another defining factor. I live with lots of people in one body, that's part of what makes me unique. It's as though you live in the same house with ~30 other people. It's nice-- you're never alone-- but it also gets annoying. Such is life.

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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

Oh, well thank you for that.

In response to the posts further up

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

This ain't Usenet, folks.

I don't know where the moderators are or what they think of this, but I suspect that most of us would prefer to not have to wade through borderline flamewars in a group which is primarily devoted to discussion of multiplicity per se.

Debate, yes. Agreeing to disagree, yes. But I enjoy discussing the intellectual and social ramifications of multiplicity per se, and frankly, I confess to having my doubts as to how much of that we can get done if people cannot control themselves in the presence of a controversial post.

As a member of a multiple system, I'm somewhat embarassed to see someone who had some misinformation, but was curious, come in with questions and be immediately attacked and pounced on. I'm embarassed because the predominant singlet society's idea of us is that we're irresponsible and uncontrollable, and I do not want singlets who came in with questions to leave with that image of us.

If the majority opinion is otherwise, please do let me know, and we'll take our leave of this group, as this isn't a philosophy which we want representing us.

For the record, re: the hypnosis issue, some of us can do a fair amount of self-hypnosis, but we've never been 'professionally' hypnotized. I personally don't think I could be; I'm -very- resistant to the idea of being controlled by anyone outside my body.


~Azusa, for amorpha

Re: In response to the posts further up

[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

I know what it is like to be misunderstood. That is why I came here to ask questions because I did not want to be guilty of misunderstanding. I definately do not see multiples as either irresponsible or uncontrollable. I feel bad for any one who does. When my psychology class watched Sybil they laughed at it and I could not have been more angry. I apologize for having offended anyone. I realized that when I posted that I may have upset someone and I regret that I did. All I wanted was help in understanding. I have read several books and apparently I did not get the full picture. That is what I came here to do. So thank you for your help.

clearly i'm in the minority here but

[kaleidescope.livejournal.com]

*i* enjoy being multiple.

like, and it's true that i don't have anything to compare it with and um ... whatever the other point was that people were making. but for me that's kind of party-line stuff, like "you need to understand these things first so that you're not making weird assumptions about my multiplicity." which i don't think you are.

but like, there are things i enjoy about being multiple which i'm fairly sure qualify as enjoying being multiple because they're specific to that situation. like, i enjoy the other people in my system, i enjoy getting to talk to them or hear sarcastic comments from them while i'm going about my life (and while they go about theirs), i enjoy having friends in my system who know me really well cause they've shared their whole lives with me and who can call me on my shit and point things out about my behavior or help me do things that i need to do. i enjoy being a part of their lives, like watching todd_lemon's joy at making truffles or being around glittery_lizard's bounciness or rose_window's warmth or whatever. i like working on projects with them and i like not having to be out all the time.

there are also things that i don't enjoy, like, i don't enjoy feeling like i have to hide the fact that we're multiple around my friends (not because they would be fucked up about it, in fact kola is one of the wiser people i know and totally seems to get our multiplicity and jokes about it in a good way and stuff, but because i'm too insecure!) and it can be pretty annoying for us to have to negotiate time (like i want to go see hedwig and the angry inch on thursday with some of my friends, but twinklemouse (ok we have too many livejournals) is supposed to go to a SIA (http://www.siawso.org) meeting and so now I have to find another one she can go to in a reasonable amount of time....) but overall, i am happy that i am multiple.

and this is just my experience as one person in a multiple system. there are even other people in here who might feel differently, like, be pissed off that they haven't been the main front person in years and like their life was stolen from them because we didn't know we were multiple and things just happened, or like because they don't have all the time they need in the body they can't do everything they want in their lives, and it's hard. so i'm only speaking for myself, not for anyone else ESPECIALLY not for any other systems anywhere. i'm sure you know enough not to assume that this is what it would be like for anyone else out there.

- dani

Re: clearly i'm in the minority here but

[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

thank you very much, that was very insightful. I am glad you can be happy with your situation!

I'm not sure if anyone really addressed this

[kaleidescope.livejournal.com]

I know that people addressed the concept of enjoying being multiple, and that people addressed hypnosis somewhat, but there are a lot of posts I just read and I'm not sure if anyone said this specifically. But, were you originally thinking of hypnosis as a cure or some sort of way to deal with being multiple? Or, something else I didn't understand? :)

Re: I'm not sure if anyone really addressed this

[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

Well, I read Sybil and I am currently reading a book where they use hypnosis. I asked my psychotherapist if she used it and she said no, so I wondered if it was common practice.

Moderator(?) view:

[asrai-d.livejournal.com]

I don't get online much and if someone wants to take over or co-moderate things here please email me at: insiders@fastmail.ca.

Maybe I've been reading darkpersonalites newsletter too much, with all the flamewars that have gone on there in the past. *shrugs*

People often respond to something intially emotionally, especially with something that is their life. And later when you think about it, it probably wasn't the best way to deal with it. I'm not going to kick anybody out or anything for not being multiple, for not being informed, for responding emotionally.

I would like nice discussions, but we live in the real world where emotions often run high.

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen? I dunnno. any comments?


Asrai

[eeyores.livejournal.com]

The comment "Or do you all enjoy having DID?" is probably where you lost us.
Are you trying to bait us? How would you enjoy having the kind of experiences it takes to become a DID? Hypnosis in some cases would restimulate the traumatic hurts. If you need help with DID...EMDR with drawing is useful. Get A Life...Your Own Life. Don't study mine.

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[queenofthenerds.livejournal.com]

There is a difference between being multiple and the trauma that might trigger being multiple. I hope you do not see these as one whole thing. The reason I asked that question was because from what I have read most people hate the fact that they are multiple and would do anything to fix it (such as hypnosis) but when I saw this community it seemed like everyone was happy with the way they were. I realize now that was not the best way to phrase it and I apologize, but all I wanted to do was learn more.

[eeyores.livejournal.com]

My First Day a little touchy. Happy to be here. Meeting new people.
Good luck with your curiousness.