X-posted to soulbonding

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

About a month ago (?) I asked about fronting/co-fronting ("sub-fronting" as i dubbed it at the time)... Now I'd like a little more talk about something. Do you thinks it's possible that they could front without you yourself knowing?

I'll admit first off that my memory can be very poor, but I think I would remember something this important. My soulbond/bordering on multiple girl came out with something pretty awful last night to me. It explained why she acted up so much last month, and a lot of her opinions.

Being as how she helps me write a fanfic with my beloved boi, I asked if i could discuss the info with him. Given permission, I talked it through with him. To which he said he already knew what happened, I'd told him via AIM 3 months ago.

I have a bad, BAD memory, but this is a really important thing, and I doubt I'd have forgotten it. But he apparently has it saved somewhere, that conversation, and he's looking for it at the mo.

I wonder, therefore, if it was her that told him. Because I don't usually allow fronting here, I remember what incidents I allowed. And I have never allowed this girl to front, not willingly. Last month it was her forcing her way through. A year ago, she forced her way through again. But at no point between the two incidents had I fronted her.

Is it possible that she could do that? I know that this is a different experience for all bonders/multiples... but I would feel better for some input.

Comments

[kangetsuhime.livejournal.com]

It's not impossible. I can say that much.


~Lu

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

*nod* Thanks for the input :)
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[race-carrigan.livejournal.com]

I don't know about others, but I know my friend fronts without knowing it. She has lapses of time or important occurrances that happen which she doesn't remember. She- since it happens alot to her- makes alot of notes (cue there being post-it notes all around the house) and lists and generally checks and double checks and triple checks things :-) Of course, as a singleton, that would drive me nuts, but she does it automatically.

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

Come to think of it, last summer I was talking with the boi on AIM at about 3am, and I must have fallen asleep because I don't remember the half an hour more of conversation he had with me... which i suspected at the time may have been Russet.

Wow.
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[race-carrigan.livejournal.com]

<3 Well, see, there you go. Some multiples, I've been told, co-front, so 2+ people see what happening at once, but others only have one person consciously controling the body at a time. Or, you know, it could be both, on and off. :-) *has been researching*

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

It's all really interesting! I wish I hadn't gone off reading a few years ago, I would love to be able to read articles on this sort of thing. I'd love to be able to read a book in a day like i used to, too!
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[chainsaw-hime.livejournal.com]

Our co-fronting is sort of an agreement with all parties. Delta and Tarnish are the main co-pilots, and if both of them are occupied, incapacitated, or needs to be (well, the computer term for it is "override," but I don't know what it would be here...) overriden, Logic can take over the body to pilot in the meanwhile. Triton is aware of events but never ever fronts. It only speaks within the system.

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

I think I'd be a lot happier with fronting if I could trust my dad not to try and wind me up at every availible opportunity. Its because of that, and not being able to trust some of the girls' tempers, that I have a problem.
But the agreement we have of them not fronting unless its required, seems to work. Most of my system are post-death spirits anyway, so they've lived and died and know exactly what its all like. Because of this, not many try and front anyway. Even this must has only been acting up in times when shes upset or annoyed, or when theres a change going on in the system.
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[elenbarathi.livejournal.com]

Sure it's possible. Soulbonding involves a fictional character becoming *real* - however it happens, the character is no longer a mask or puppet, but has his or her own thoughts, opinions, and agendas. Well hey, real people usually don't like to be chattels, subject to someone else allowing or not allowing them freedom to live. They tend to rebel against it.

You may find in time that force no longer works, and that you have to go to negotiation instead. It's usually easier to negotiate with someone if you haven't first tried and failed to control them by coercion. Therefore, I'd suggest that you try to get a friendly dialogue going, about what you both want and how you can help one another get it. Good luck!

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

Tbh, it's been a long-agreed rule that I don't let them front unless I can help it - the family here are antagonistic as hell, and the main reason for keeping her in particular quiet is because she will clash with my dad.
It's always been the way of this system, and they all agree - even the bond in question, for the most part of things. It's only when she's been angered or maddened that she's liable to break the rules.
Tbh, If I trust them I let them know they can front. But none of the trustworthy ones ever have anything to front about! :) (trust is a very big problem here for me)
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[whisperedones.livejournal.com]

The "muses" as We call them (same thing as soulbonds, *I* think) have been known to front with people in the main system who are NOT familiar with them, and even have no idea that they're really around. I mean, they know that I, Mask and Ruby have a group within the group, and they consist of "characters". Yes, they, on various occasions have co-fronted with someone (even me) without the person knowing, and just interjected.

People within the main system do that too, now that I think of it... >_<. It's not unheard of for Us, anyway

The best thing I can think of, advice wise, is to work out a negotiation with 'em. Everyone. Not just for certain people. Take time, discuss, write it out. Can't hurt, right?

And this may sound weird, but I remember you from the now defunct musesinshadows community on lj (yeah, We closed it, bad Us :P) *random*

-Reese

[bekkypk.livejournal.com]

Mine were called muses for a long time too :) I think a muse is before they have a soul in their own right(?) but most, if not all, of them have sentience now (but i still call them muses from time to time, I think they like the name)
Tbh, I'm not too concerned with the fronting thing - it is a matter of trust both within the system and in the home environment i live in. For the most part of it, we all do get along in here, and nobody demands fronting or seems very bothered by it. It's just occasionally that this little missie causes an upset, and it's usually something wrong with the fic me and the boi write, in which she played a very strong role.
Hehe! I do remember that com! I can't remember if i was around until the end, being as how when I was at uni I cut a load of my communities so I didn't have to read so much (because i was only in every few days to look at the net, as it was a 40 minute walk to campus and i didn't have any bus fare!) Aw, kinda sad that it's gone though. Anyway, yay, nice to re-meet you :)
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