[identity profile] angelusstrigoi.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] multiplicity_archives
Well today I came upon some new info. Something that helped to explain a lot about me. I was thinking I had a soulbond because I didn't quite understand the multiple stuff. But someone led me to a site that explained it. And I can definitely say I am a multiple. I am also a median and currently am hosting one very old soul named Lilith. Also one of my multiples is an otherkin. So this is Angelus, Kim, Tiger, and The Child saying hi to everyone for the first time as their own separate recognizes entities.

Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-08 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
So, that clears up medians...sort of...and now confuses me on soulbonding--I thought a soulbond was what I had with my partner, where we are bound through love and marriage, we are in tune with each other's emotional, mental and sometimes physical states...you're meaning something different, I'm thinking. :)

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-08 09:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] iamshadow.livejournal.com
Soulbonds tend to be 'crafted' if you like. The difference is in the genesis. Soulbonds tend to begin existence as story characters, RPG characters, movie characters (or actors), or representations of another person, but take on their own existence through evolution in a system.

Soulbonds can be little more than 'masks' or fully evolved autonomous members. They become more than they initially were, sometimes being virtually a 'living' representation of the initial character, sometimes developing individually to the point that they barely resemble at all the initial created character.

It has been said in the past by some that soulbonds or soulbonders(systems or people who soulbond) don't constitute 'real' people, but I think that's a bit silly, considering most trauma based systems are completely crafted through need and evolution of the mind, just under different circumstance.

A soulbond tends to be classed differently to a system member 'created' for a purpose or a specific task. It tends to only be applied to system members that have the basis in a character of fiction, or a 'larger than life' person (like an actor or celebrity).

Anyone else feel free to butt in with your definitions - I'm not an 'expert', and if this is going in the FAQ, it should have all possible input and viewpoint!

:o)

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-08 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
How long has this term been in use? Because I think it's been co-opted. I've been using 'soulmate' and 'soulbond' since I was eleven or twelve; I'm thirty-eight now. I know terms are used and redefined, this just seems kind of an odd placement of an existing term, you see.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
"Soulbonding" was first used to refer to the connection between persons from "fictional" sources and people here in the world-at-large in about 1996 by Amanda Flowers of the "Just For Writers" or JFW Writers' Club.

Much more here:
http://childofmana.tripod.com/soulbondingfaq.htm

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
Then yep, I've been using it far before then. Interesting. Well, at least I can deal with my interpretation, I'll just have to remember other people use it different ways. :)

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-16 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
That's what we do too :) We've taken to calling "the deep emotional bond between people" as spirit bonding when we are on line, just to avoid confusion. The gaming and New Age communities still say "soul bond" for that, with the New Age implying that this might be a connection you have with the same person over a number of different lifetimes.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-16 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
I might have to switch, too. Argh. Why can't they change to spirit bonding, though? They're the interlopers...arghshuttingupagain...

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
I know terms are used and redefined, this just seems kind of an odd placement of an existing term, you see.

I have always thought that was really the wrong word to use for it, but it seems to be pretty emplaced now, and it's hard to get people to switch terminology just like that. You're right, though, the original meaning of the word 'soulbond' was along the lines of what's described in this article (http://www.otherkin.net/articles/soulbonds.html).

I'm guessing that when fanfic writers started using it, they weren't aware of it having another connotation.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
Pretty sure, because reading through that article? That's how I've always used the term.

Hrmph. Fanfic writers. Figures. :)

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-08 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arimle.livejournal.com
well. most of the time it refers to what [livejournal.com profile] iamshadow said, but I suppose sometime it could also refer to a strong bond between two people...honestly, I really don't like the term, I think it's cheesy and not specific enough, but it's what we've got. ;)

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
Well, there's no reason you -have- to use the word soulbond to refer to a character like that. I've also seen them called muses, or just characters who talk to you. The only real purpose terminology has ever served, I think, is to make one's own experiences more readily understandable to others.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
Nrrrr...what now?

This is the sound of Nema's brain melting. I swear. Every time I think I have a handle on something, it bites me in the ass...

Okay. Take three. Muses are soulbonds? How the hell do you figure?

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com
Some writers refer to a character who talks to them as a muse. This is, of course, a pretty far cry from the original definition of a Muse, but there are some circles where it's used to mean that.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2004-12-09 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
That's the original meaning. The term was picked up by a group of writers to mean the process by which a person from a "fictional" source -- books, movies, games, etc. -- becomes mentally and emotionally connected to a particular person in the world-at-large.

There is a discussion on this at
http://www.livejournal.com/community/soulbonding/154425.html
which may further enlighten things.

(Gotta love that girl's icon. - Jay)

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