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Oct. 19th, 2004 10:30 pm![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png)
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It's people liek this that cause the world of multiples to never be seen for what it truly is
(btw, for those of you who don't know me (pretty much everyone) I'm a non-multiple whose SO is a member of a multiple system)
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The purpose of me posting this was not to bash one specific person for their belief on how they should treat my SO. This is jsut the first example I've gotten that is in WRITING of the way so many people think that a few pamphlets, a couple documentaries, and maybe a book or two and they're geniuses on the topic. They're the ones who don't see that whether someone is faking the "disorder" or not, it is often a defense mechanism, not something for purely attention. Even if it IS for attention, maybe teh person believes that surrounding themselves with a large number of peopel on the outside will protect them.
(btw, for those of you who don't know me (pretty much everyone) I'm a non-multiple whose SO is a member of a multiple system)
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The purpose of me posting this was not to bash one specific person for their belief on how they should treat my SO. This is jsut the first example I've gotten that is in WRITING of the way so many people think that a few pamphlets, a couple documentaries, and maybe a book or two and they're geniuses on the topic. They're the ones who don't see that whether someone is faking the "disorder" or not, it is often a defense mechanism, not something for purely attention. Even if it IS for attention, maybe teh person believes that surrounding themselves with a large number of peopel on the outside will protect them.
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Date: 2004-10-19 10:14 pm (UTC)I'd like to bring to light what I feel to be the bottom line. It was something offered to me by one of our therapists. It dosn't matter who believes in the people who believe themselves to be multiples or who believes in multiplicity in general, just that we respect eachothers right to use any means including multiplicity to relate to the world and cope with it so long as we don't harm anyone.
He also taught me that normal is just a wash setting.
Smart guy. Cheers Ted.
Y'fandes Mae
of Krystale
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Date: 2004-10-20 03:09 am (UTC)In the original poster's defense... it is hard to be on the outside. The husband has had many conversations between Us that didn't mesh and odd facts that didn't match up.
Now, to redeem myself.
I think that his lack of decorum by bringing a post like that in here was just ignorant. His issue is with his SO (and sorry if it's female that posted, you get where I'm going either way), and if the question was "How can I tell if they're faking?' then that should have been the question asked. I think that because of the lack of info provided, that this person was also just looking to start a community arguement with the comment about inside communication.
The person really should just sit down with their SO and talk it out, and ask questions, rather than jump on a community board and throw accusations.
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Date: 2004-10-20 09:11 am (UTC)Shandra
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Date: 2004-10-20 04:46 pm (UTC)Many people who are themselves multiple find "lilspeak" irritating as well as inauthentic. Physical children do not speak or write that way, and someone who is capable of posting to Livejournal is also capable of using the spell-check function.
It is one's own business what one writes in one's own journal, and who one allows to read it. However, to post in "lilspeak" in a public journal, to let the ownership of the journal be known to realtime acquaintances, and to expect or demand acceptance of multiplicity from those acquaintances, is to invite attack, or at least serious skepticism. Therefore one ought not to be surprised when that is what one receives.
Mutiplicity is not socially acceptable. Whether this is "fair" or not is beside the point. The fact is that telling people that one shares one's body with others is most likely to cause them to assume that one is either mentally ill or lying. Therefore, unless they have compelling reasons not to make those assumptions, such as long-term intimate friendship or being multiple themselves, it is folly to tell them.
The psychiatric establishment classes DID as a mental disorder, and denies the possibility of any other sort of multiplicity. The fact that the psychiatric establishment is an instrument of repressive social control with a long history of perpetrating atrocities against the innocent, and whose theories of mental illness have no scientific basis, does not matter. The same statement could have been made about the Inquisition, but doing so would not have saved anyone from the rack and the stake.
Most people believe whatever they are told by those in power, and will not believe anything to the contrary unless they have both a logical and an emotional reason to do so. Ignorant casual acquaintances have neither. That is just the way things are.
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Date: 2004-10-22 09:45 pm (UTC)I don't particularly care if she's got real MPD or not, I'd just she didn't harp on about it all the time. It seems to be that MPD is her banner, her security blanket, her excuse, her claim to fame.
I'm a "minor bpd (bi-polar)" person (at least, thats what I think, and most of my friends agree. My doctor hasn't been very helpful about the whole thing), yet I don't throw this about as an excuse. I'll occasionaly say "depends what mood I'm in" and leave it at that.
I don't particularly like it, I'm learning to control it, and I definatly don't use it as a method of gaining attention for myself. (Yes, ok, most of my friends know I'm slightly mental, but aside from a few who read my journal, I don't discuss it with people).
Anyway, I'll admit it can be confusing at times when she's talking on IRC as Dat, Chris, or whoever (I think we've had 5 out of 127 or so (its a number I got from somewhere, not sure where, but it sticks. Could be my memory getting crossed again) appear), but it gets quite confusing initialy trying to tell them apart. Initialy "Dat"'s use of english was very bad, and thus I could at least figure that out. But now aside from gender references and names, it all seems the same.
Got sidetracked again I think.
A word of advice: if you are realy MPD, then have a "spokespersonality" and have them deal with the real world. Then the rest of us won't look at you going "wtf is up with them?"
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