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[bacskocky.livejournal.com]

It's people liek this that cause the world of multiples to never be seen for what it truly is

(btw, for those of you who don't know me (pretty much everyone) I'm a non-multiple whose SO is a member of a multiple system)

EDIT:

The purpose of me posting this was not to bash one specific person for their belief on how they should treat my SO. This is jsut the first example I've gotten that is in WRITING of the way so many people think that a few pamphlets, a couple documentaries, and maybe a book or two and they're geniuses on the topic. They're the ones who don't see that whether someone is faking the "disorder" or not, it is often a defense mechanism, not something for purely attention. Even if it IS for attention, maybe teh person believes that surrounding themselves with a large number of peopel on the outside will protect them.

Comments

[saturniakitty.livejournal.com]

Is the target of that post your SO?

[thebkcam.livejournal.com]

Yeeeeeeah, people like this make me spew. 'Cause of course, you can't really be multiple if you have actual intrasystem communication. Kinda like how you're not really mute if you use sign language on a daily basis. Or you're not really African American if you don't like rap or hiphop.

[echthros.livejournal.com]

... To be honest, that just doesn't make any sense to me.

[chrisau8r.livejournal.com]

Yea I am, either that or there's something I should know. :P

Dat

[chrisau8r.livejournal.com]

I guess he probly thinks I'm Grumpy. Coz, you know, I'm never not angry. That's why Steph likes me so much, coz I'm always angry at her. lmao

Dat

[westly.livejournal.com]

Especially if you have no personal experiance with intrasystem communication, you're the best person to ridicule another person.

I agree with you. Spew.

[bacskocky.livejournal.com]

Ummm.... last I checked the targets' my SO. Well, kinda. Chris is the actual target, but Dat's my SO... So technically, yes and no.

[chrisau8r.livejournal.com]

Yea.. even though the body is 19 and Chris is _12_. I'm closer in age to the body.. and I've been in it longer.. but I'm the wrong gender so OBVIOUSLY she has more a claim to it then me. _rolls eyes_

Dat

[chrisau8r.livejournal.com]

You know, the really, really funny part about this is, this guy hardly knows us. We've had mabye four convos with him, ever. Note that he ain't even on our friends list. Him and this other guy who lives in the same house as him (four doors down from us, yuck) are letting me practice my skills of what Chris calls faux-civility though, lol, when they post on our journal.

Dat

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

I tell ya I really gotta hand it to pengke trying to straighten this troll out but unfortunately I bet he won't listen, because what pengke said made sense.

[saturniakitty.livejournal.com]

I read the post in your journal, and his reply, and it makes me wonder what went on during that walk because I could find nothing there that could have provoked his post....

[bacskocky.livejournal.com]

based on his reply to pengke, all multiple cases are exactly the same, although they still are highly unlikely to exist. *blinks* He needs to expand his research material...

[whisperedones.livejournal.com]

Heaven forbid anyone should have good communication in their respective systems, right? Not everyone has blackouts, not everyone has loss of time, and (though Our system isn't one of them) not all systems were born of trauma! >_< Ahh, trolls.

[krystale.livejournal.com]

Eeh, some people are dorktastic. But then, we've been known to be pretty dorktastic ourselves sometimes.

I'd like to bring to light what I feel to be the bottom line. It was something offered to me by one of our therapists. It dosn't matter who believes in the people who believe themselves to be multiples or who believes in multiplicity in general, just that we respect eachothers right to use any means including multiplicity to relate to the world and cope with it so long as we don't harm anyone.

He also taught me that normal is just a wash setting.

Smart guy. Cheers Ted.

Y'fandes Mae
of Krystale

Off topic

[krystale.livejournal.com]

BTW, whisperedones, I like your icon.

So does Eppi.

Re: Off topic

[whisperedones.livejournal.com]

Oy, which one (out of like, 50)? The cat? :D Thanks! :} The cat is my totem animal, and I my name is Blue so... yeah, I thought it was fitting to have a Russian Blue :D

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

normal is just a wash setting.

*falls over laughing* I absolutely *must* remember that one!! ty ever so much for that !

{J}tatiana

[duathir.livejournal.com]

You do not have to allow them to post on your journal - instructions for blocking them may be found here (http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=23). You do not even have to allow them to read your journal - go here (http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=120) for further information.

[multi-psychosis.livejournal.com]

Ok, I know I'm bound to get nailed by someone for this....

In the original poster's defense... it is hard to be on the outside. The husband has had many conversations between Us that didn't mesh and odd facts that didn't match up.

Now, to redeem myself.

I think that his lack of decorum by bringing a post like that in here was just ignorant. His issue is with his SO (and sorry if it's female that posted, you get where I'm going either way), and if the question was "How can I tell if they're faking?' then that should have been the question asked. I think that because of the lack of info provided, that this person was also just looking to start a community arguement with the comment about inside communication.

The person really should just sit down with their SO and talk it out, and ask questions, rather than jump on a community board and throw accusations.

[hairymonster.livejournal.com]

Living in the same city as chrisau8r and having once moved in much the same social circles I have a little more background on this situation. I hope I'm not treading on Dat's toes here.

The poster is part of a social group known as KAOS (its a university club sortof). It is full of (to put it politely) pseudo-intellectuals who take great pleasure in being extremely pedantic and skeptical of anything which remotely strikes them as "trendy and PC". Many people there take great delight in running down and viciously attacking anyone who does not conform to their particular accepted norms. It would be hard to find a group more riddled with backbitting, infighting and vicious rumour mongering.

Putting it bluntly, its fully of wankers and posers. The poster (and several others) fall into this group. Ignore them, they are trolling mainly for reaction.

[pythia.livejournal.com]

"Putting it bluntly, its fully of wankers and posers..."
Gee, thanks, dude. And you guys are the ones complaining about people making assumptions and quick judgement, with lack of proper background information!
*Rolls eyes*

[hairymonster.livejournal.com]

On this one, I do have a reasonable amount of background information :)

[pythia.livejournal.com]

So that means it's ok for you to make gross generalisations about KAOS that are just as bad as the generalisations people were making about people with MPD, which, thanks to the media, are at least understandable mistake?
To maybe help clear a few things up.

This has nothing to do with KAOS, other than the fact that a few people involved in it are from KAOS.

Dan did NOT post his entry to start a shit fight. It's his journal. He rants in it. He even posted a warning at the start.

I guess he just doesn't like hearing about Chris' multiplicity, (true or otherwise, I'm going to reserve comment) and having it shoved in his face at every given opportunity. A lot of things are that way. If it gets brought up FAR more than is necessary, and in such a way as it is, it looks like attention seeking. I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it's reserved for this situation, because I _know_ it's not. I just don't like it when people come across as what seems like bragging about their mental/emotional troubles.

As for "It's people like this that cause the world of multiples to never be seen for what it truly is,"...well, it doesn't make sense. Nothing can be seen for what it is, it's seens for how it's seen. That's WHAT it is. I don't know if that makes any sense but...I think one of you made a comment along the lines of 'it doesn't matter what other people think, it's the system's belief that counts," or something? The same thing goes here. A lot of people don't believe in MPD. Great. That's life. Why is it a problem?

I'll probably think of more to say once I post this, but hey.
*shrugs*

[bacskocky.livejournal.com]

AS I put into my edit on the original post on this community, (and I am in fact female) my purpose was not to start a fight. And accusing me of such is generalizing me into a group of people who like to just start fights. If I wanted to start a fight, I would've fought him myself.

I did not accuse him of anything. It IS stuff liek that being said that when multiples finally start to get respect, dumps them back a dozen or so steps.

As for whether or not there's faking, I honestly don't give a damn. And I HAVE sat down with my SO and talked about this stuff.

I didn't mean for this to be the opinion of one person against the world: I've heard this "multiples are faking it" and "multiples don't actually exist" argument a lot in the last few years alone. Even if he IS specifically targetting one person, I'm not.

[bacskocky.livejournal.com]

But he does believe in MPD... kinda. He seems to jump the sides of teh fence a couple times.

People ask why it's so difficult for multiples to be seen as multiples isntead of just people seeking attention or schizophrenics, or hypochondriacs, or any of a wide range of things. Maybe that's why so many multiples are trying to put it out there that they are what they are. "bragging" as you put it.

People "brag" about their depression, their tendencies to attempt suicide, their hyperactivity disorders, their anxiety. That doesn't mean they're just trying to get attention. I have to inform everyone I work with not to stress me out too badly because I have anxiety issues. Some of them, I have to remind daily. Doesn't mean I'm bragging abotu it. I wish I didn't have to point it out at all, but for my health, both physical and mental, I have to. Perhaps a multiple has certain thigns that upset them. I'd rather be reminded daily that they are a multiple so I remember to miss certain subjects than to go hard and heavy into one of those subjects and have a breakdown on my hands.