I know who peace_joy_love is!!!!

[blessed-1.livejournal.com]

I went to his "counseling" website to see what he was all about. By golly, I've challenged him before on his lack of understanding about Christianity!

He used to go as wolfendom on LJ. His journal got shut down, for what reason I don't know. If you don't understand his journal entries, join the club. The was a common response he got as wolfendom. His wolfendom account advertised that he was looking for nubile, young submissive women who he could mentor in the ways of bdsm.

He has very little understanding of what Christianity is and even less understanding of what a "dom" is. He likely posted here to drum up business for his counseling venture. I would stay far, FAR, away from him.

Comments

[saturniakitty.livejournal.com]

....that just made this guy a million times creepier. So he's an igornant pervert as well as an idiot, huh?

a serious question & OT

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

are you saying looking into s & m makes him creepy?? as does enjoying younger women??

or did i totally misread that due to my painkillers? if i did, i apologize in advance.

{J}tatiana

Re: a serious question & OT

[saturniakitty.livejournal.com]

No, it's creepy that he would have such a radically different lj, get it deleted, and then start using THIS one to preach about Jesus love and whatnot. I'm cool with BDSM stuff, just coming from THIS guy...*shivvers*

Re: a serious question & OT

[blessed-1.livejournal.com]

It isn't as simple as enjoying or looking into S&M, he had multiple subs at the same time who under the guise of counseling, he was apparently "training." As wolfendom, he would sometimes post excerpts from their training sessions, done via e-mail. He wasn't looking for *one* young nubile woman, he wanted them *all*. And not just the ones that identified as subs, he actually went after a friend of mine who is most definately not a sub, but she *is* young and nubile.

I challenged him several times on his supposed Christian views, which were anything but biblical. He uses big words and thinks it makes him sound intelligent. But if you look for the meaning in the words, there is none.

I challenged him that if he is looking for a relationship, and he is a Christian, he should be looking for a woman of integrity - one woman, and his first concern should be that she was a Christian. That's what the Bible says we are to do. His response was incomprehensible and he ended it by inviting me to write him so he could teach me about the Bible and what Christianity is. Mind you, I've been a Christian for 39-ish years!

I have no problem with BDSM. It was his application of his interests and his professing to be a Christian and not living a Christian life that really bugged me!

I'm glad to see he's gone. I reported him as soon as I discovered who he was but didn't say anything because I didn't want to alert him and have him go down fighting. :)

I'm glad it all worked out. He won't be back here. At least not for long if he tries, too many now know who he is. :)

Re: a serious question & OT

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

untill you got to the part about counselling & training, i was thinking this was nothing unusual.

i see what you're saying now. ty.

{J}tatiana

[shadowechoes.livejournal.com]

I'm thinking maybe instead of just rebanning this guy from the community, the mod should report him to LJ TOS or whatever.

~Shadow

[nematoddity.livejournal.com]

No doubt. We GOTTA get him out of here...again.

[ninalyn.livejournal.com]

That's even scarier than his lack of respect for others' beliefs.

I've been steering clear of the conversation as of late, but I can see everyone's instincts were right about him since he posted that "rights" list.

-Juliana of WhisperSung

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

totally unrelated, but i see your systems name is Whispersung. *smiles* very close to the lj name i picked hehe. Interesting if useless observation i know. i chose this name to honour & remember my two sisters.

Anyway i'll stop being a pest now.

{J}tatiana

[ninalyn.livejournal.com]

Hello, {J}tatiana. :)

Yes, I noticed your name, as well. At first I thought it was someone trying to copy us (all apologies, of course, but we also have a journal at whispersung, so we got a bit suspicious). WhisperSung is the shortest version of our group name. We also go by Whispers Song, Whispers' Song, and other similar versions of the name.

I think I also read somewhere on your journal that one of the sister's names was Butterfly? Because we have a Butterfly, too (she is 7 or 8, depending on how she feels). Her given name is Jillian, but everyone calls her Butterfly just the same.

It's neat how we are alike in some ways. Nice to meet you. :)

-Juliana of WhisperSung

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

Indeed very cool. No i wasn't not copying anyone & no apology is necessary. i can see why you would think i had copied your systems name. You're correct too, my sister was named Butterfly. That was her given name. Fwiw, i love the variations too.

Nice to meet you as well.

:)

{J}tatiana

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

forgot to add my given name is tatiana capped or not depending if i am writing in the role of submissive/slave (not sure which role i & my mates will choose me to partake) or a regular adult. The {J} is my lovers initial as i am collared to Him.

{J}tatiana

[whisperedones.livejournal.com]

And THAT *points to the fetish thing* is what makes me incredibly glad that We banned him from the Rape Survivors comm.

By the way, have I mentioned that I adore your icons? :) Non-hooman icons make Us's happy for some reason.

-Fihel

Do you mean...

[antigoneschase.livejournal.com]

the BDSM as the "fetish thing"?

I know many rape survivors who are into BDSM in one way or another.

(What's wrong with having a fetish, anyway?)

Re: Do you mean...

[whisperedones.livejournal.com]

No, I mean he also has a rape fetish, as in he thought rape was erotic. I did a little research of my own... this guy is really... messed up.

Nothing's wrong with a fetish in general though! I have a few myself ;)

Re: Do you mean...

[antigoneschase.livejournal.com]

Okay. :) (although, I do know lots of people who get off on the idea of rape, and rollplaying it. Even those that may be considere to have a rape fetish who have been raped. My wife is one example.)

However, I agree that he seems screwed up as all get out.

Sorry if I sounded grouchy... I have had to leave many a list over people not respecting other people's fetishes, and I was hoping this one wouldn't end up that way. :)

[whispersong.livejournal.com]

so is a female w/similar fantasies & interests (whether a rape victim or not) equally unqualified (in the ethical/moral sense) to provide such services in your opinion?

Not arguing, just looking at the other side of the coin. my own beliefs & morals are it seems at odds w/yours tbh so i'm curious to hear your answer.

{J}tatiana

Depending on your school of thought

[spookshow-girl.livejournal.com]

Arousal could be interpreted as an emotional involvement.

So would a desire to impress your worldview on the client.

It definately constitutes a conflict of interests. It's commendable that you actually draw that line for yourself. I don't know how many people do.

--Me

[ksol1460.livejournal.com]

Thought so.

I did a little investigating and figured his interest in kasiawhisper and her "multiples" might have possibly had something to do with this:

http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=sister_marya

It's just too bad that a pretty girl can't have a pretty picture of herself without some slob thinking the wrong thing.

Compounding the felony was the fact that when I made that wisecrack about his looking for a ladyfriend, he basically told me that I was correct.

Sigh. Well at least he's gone (thank you squnq and others). Now we can get back to business.

[kasiawhisper.livejournal.com]

he was giving me bad vibes about demanding to be added to my friends list.. glad he's gone..

*mumbles* fucker.

[spookshow-girl.livejournal.com]

That explains a lot. Like why he kissed anything that was identifiably female's ass (while being patronizing), and why he was much less interested in disguising the fact that he was a fuckwad from those whose gender he couldn't tell, or presumed male.

--Me